Yea I don't like em either.
Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
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Yea I don't like em either.
NoctisVsStar
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sixteen-bit
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Canonically, Oro and Cody are supposed to be some of the most powerful characters in SF lore. They fight with their arms restrained to make it fair.
Stone Ocean
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Seth / Decapre
Good catch and interesting theory you two. I certainly wouldn't mind if this ends up being the direction they're going with! Necalli does seem to have a connection to both the Illuminati and Satsui no Hadou actually, if we go by his V-trigger powers at least, so perhaps the storyline will involve how Gill ends up being so powerful by learning a thing or two from Necali?
Also, to quote myself from the Necali reveal thread (before I saw that KidA Seven had pointed it out as well):
Like I said here: I really hope most if not all stages will end up having some kind of transition to another section. That would be great. In this NZ example it could be a cave section complete with those statues.
It was indeed awesome, as was Ryu and Ken's intro. You know, I was pretty disappointed when they revealed Ken and he didn't do a fist bump with Ryu! Hopefully they'll add that in later as well as special intro's for other characters. It would be a good way to include a bit more storytelling in the game in a way that doesn't detract from the fighting itself too much. The same goes for stage transitions possibly.
Stone Ocean
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Ryu Chun Nash Bison at first
Cammy Birdie starting saturday
Stone Ocean
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Better luck on the second betaNo Ken?
NoctisVsStar
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No Ken?
I'm sad too but at least the fall beta is for pc/ps4 which means we get to try out cross play. I'm assuming of course.
That would fit with what someone said earlier about Necali having a red illuminati gem shape under his hair. I can't find the post but you can see it clearly on his forehead, and it's obviously not his hair.
KidA Seven
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Also, just because the New Zealand stage has the Illuminati temple doesn't mean that Necalli is from there. He has an aztec name and Urien's 3S stage was an Aztec Ruins stage. Just more to think about.
Necalli could rule out a few characters for the initial roster
Alex
Necalli has a grab special move and potentially a grab Super. We also have Birdie who is also a semi grappler.
Akuma
Necalli has the demon vibe going similar to Akuma. Also we have 2 shotos in the game.
Urien
Necalli is mainly naked with a muscular body similar to Urien. Having Urien in the roster could affect visual diversity with the cast especially with a small 16 character roster.
C. Viper
Necalli has one of C. Vipers moves as a V Skill
Blanka
Necalli seems to be the freak character if the roster. Having Blanka in as well would affect visual diversity. Some people actually say he looks like Blanka in human form.
Alex
Necalli has a grab special move and potentially a grab Super. We also have Birdie who is also a semi grappler.
Akuma
Necalli has the demon vibe going similar to Akuma. Also we have 2 shotos in the game.
Urien
Necalli is mainly naked with a muscular body similar to Urien. Having Urien in the roster could affect visual diversity with the cast especially with a small 16 character roster.
C. Viper
Necalli has one of C. Vipers moves as a V Skill
Blanka
Necalli seems to be the freak character if the roster. Having Blanka in as well would affect visual diversity. Some people actually say he looks like Blanka in human form.
The overlap between Necalli and any of those characters is so insignificant that it probably doesn't have any bearing on their chances. I don't think Viper or Blanka are particularly likely to make the on-disc roster, but it's never a good idea to use character A's inclusion for ruling out character B. A lot of people didn't think Ken (Ken!) was going to return because of Ryu.
Troubled Bat
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Necalli is the grim reaper. I love this character even more!
Dr. Buni
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This reminds me of stuff like "Wario isn't coming back in Smash 4 because Mario have a Wario-themed alt color" in old Smash threads.
I mean, I don't think Viper, Blanka (and maybe Akuma) are in the starting roster either, but Necalli doesn't really rule out any of the characters you mentioned, imo
Shadoken
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Urien boss character would be possible though. Man that would be so hype with his OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCRTKhNWbW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCRTKhNWbW8
direct_quote
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Don't worry muscular half naked men will be the new age of shotos in SF5, kappa.
I'm 100% behind this theory also, and the open sarcophagus catch really seals the deal on this being the the gist of things.
I reallllllllly hope we get that starry night illuminati stage.
Stone Ocean
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Remy is gone. Just accept it.
Then he might not like Gouken and Gouki as well, since they inhibit themselves unless we unlock their Shin form battles.
There is still hope, no guile-like character yet on roster.
Come on.
I could absolutely see Alex and Remy (instead of Guile) making it in, as well as Karin. I honestly don't think they would leave France out of the countries for launch, and I doubt Abel will make it in.
sixteen-bit
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Same here.
I feel like they could reuse some animations from Bryan in SFxTK for Necro.
Dr. Buni
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Me too, but I would prefer a new non muscular man instead of having poor man's Iori Yagami/Freeman back in SF5.
Beelzebufo
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I don't know about crazy theory, that seems pretty spot on haha. Only weird part is that an Aztec dude is in New Zealand.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that they'd add literally every other character from 3S before they add Remy.
direct_quote
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Remy is one of the least popular SF3 characters, and I'm sure they would add Guile first because of story reasons (probably DLC not initial roster).Come on.
I could absolutely see Alex and Remy (instead of Guile) making it in, as well as Karin. I honestly don't think they would leave France out of the countries for launch, and I doubt Abel will make it in.
You can't really see a gem in any of the recent official screens or character art.
Also, I just took this screen.
That theory is looking less and less likely.
Yeah, this thought did cross my mind when first seeing Necalli. If Capcom is going for serious diversity in the initial line-up we might have to wait a bit on these two.
Beelzebufo
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Where are people getting the "Cody is the most powerful" stuff from? Is that an inside joke that I wasn't around for?
You don't need a gem to be illuminati, he could be like the progenitor or something.You can't really see a gem in any of the recent official screens or character art.
Also, I just took this screen.
That theory is looking less and less likely.
Yeah cause I'm sure Birdie was a top request...
2015.
How about you go to street fighter wikia.
Based on what? Nothing we know about this character hints at illuminati.
Come on.
I could absolutely see Alex and Remy (instead of Guile) making it in, as well as Karin. I honestly don't think they would leave France out of the countries for launch, and I doubt Abel will make it in.
Lol Remy is not making the initial roster
Beelzebufo
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His abilities seem to be magical, he's based on an ancient power according to his bio (I think lol), he looks similarly visually, and he was revealed alongside an Illuminati stage with an open tomb.
Birdie wasn't a top request, but Remy doesn't really have anything to add gameplay wise I don't think.
Phantasmal Repose
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I'd be fine with Remy coming back, but he needs an SF5 make over. Wasn't a big fan of his design in SF3.
He punches tornados.
He punches tornados.
NoctisVsStar
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Udon comics. I believe He beat ryu to a pulpuntil salty ryu aka evil ryu came up. It's on the wiki. Even akuma acknowledges his strength.
There is no power that 'fuels the illuminati'. The gem thing on Urien's head is never explained other than him and Gill were rigorously trained and genetically enhanced or something to learn the secret arts of the Illuminati (Aegis Reflector for Urien, not sure about Gill). Since they have and research and experimentation facilities (Twelve's ending, Dr. Kure etc.) I don't know if they're using Aztec powers or whatever.
Beelzebufo
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That's great, but also the silliest thing I've ever heard haha
Pure_Phazon
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Yup.
I'm not a fan of Remy, but he does need another chance because his playstyle did not mesh well with parrys in 3s.
Beelzebufo
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Birdie wasn't a replacement for a character that's already on the roster
direct_quote
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No Ken?
And like I said also Guile will most likely be added down the road for story with Nash, so 2 reasons why.
Nobody has a charge boom or flash kick yet on the roster, also no other SF character to date has had that jumping kick move he has. He was fun and easy to juggle with thanks to his cr fierce. Also no other characters have projectiles that you have to block low. And his V trigger could allow shorter charge times for his projectiles to kind of recreate the charge partitioning tricks that advanced players could do.
I'm not saying he's gonna be in it, because chances are he isn't, but to say he doesn't have anything to add isn't really correct. He's a lot more unique than people give him credit for. I'd certainly rather have him than shoto clones or 2 move boom spam Guile. And that's without considering the fact they will probably make most of the rest of the returning cast feel like new characters.
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