The most racist places in America...according to Google.
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Jest Chillin
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Looks to be San Diego on up to Ventura on the coast side but most of the area shown is desert regions.
It's kind of wierd because it's a mix of two very different situations. The cities where there it's a melting pot but plenty of tension and the more rural areas where it's less likely to be as diverse.
The Faceless Master
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probably because outside of Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan and The Bronx, shit is almost Boston levels
Growing up in various areas along that "spine" this could not be more spot on. It's hard wired, but...
...to answer your question in regards to the Appalachian region in East Tennessee/Southwest Virginia/Southern West Virginia, most of these areas where I experienced it so fervently were 95% or higher white. That's why it's so weird. There are very, very few African Americans. The area is as rural as it gets. The closest "cities" are Knoxville, TN and Charleston, WV in that triangle and the rest is woodlands and fields with very small towns dotted throughout.
One need only look at the articles on the prevalence of drugs in these areas to see that a good sized chunk of these people are living in their own version of the "ghetto" they love to rail against with no prospects of getting out due to a lack of work and good education...it's quite ironic. And they don't see any issue with it either.
Like I said, the racism is hard wired in a lot of these folks and since they never encounter any African Americans (or really anyone who isn't white outside of a few towns having a decent population of Indians who have immigrated) they have no reason and no example to believe anything other than what they see on Fox News.
The South has better integration? This might sound counterintuitive but the South has the most wealthy black neighborhoods. There's no moral judgment in this and the reasons are profound and subtle both, but if rich black people elsewhere live in mixed neighborhoods then you have to look at the definition of integration outside of a subjective one.
I speak from a weak anecdotal position here btw and am happy to be corrected.
PHOENIXZERO
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Wasn't this posted before?
Not surprised that my area of Michigan would be included as "Much More Than Average".
Not surprised that my area of Michigan would be included as "Much More Than Average".
It's a common excuse for the south's overt racism. It like civil war slavery denial is a common theme of the pseudo-history taught to many kids in southern schools. I don't even fault many of the people who pitch this absurd concept because it's a potentially logical conclusion to people who have always heard it was a war of northern aggression against the southern states and that slavery wasn't an issue.
Of course racism is a national problem, the north has had a history of a quieter but still insidious form of it as opposed to the south where it's been accepted and worn on the shoulder for much more of American history. Still it's just another attempt by the state's rights not slavery people to try and suggest that somehow a society which embraces to this day, in many cases, and almost universally denies the overt reasons for the civil war is somehow better than the states that stayed loyal.
Just use common sense, if society is more accepting of overt racism like in many southern states as opposed to places where you will be socially frowned on like in the north, and this has been the case for hundreds of years, where would you expect to find the most racists?
Northern states have a shit town of racist cunts, but it's a fantasy to pretend that the society that considers it bad, trashy, and to be avoided is worse than the one built on denial that it motivated the bloodiest conflict in US history and to this day contains many individuals who believe that they will rise again.
victreeb3l
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Yeah, people are often surprised when they find out that the rest of NY state is NOTHING like NYC. And I'm not saying NYC is a bastion of tolerance and acceptance, we definitely have our problems.
No one knows what Florida is.
BlackGoku03
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I'm in one of the red area. No surprise since it's SC.
Flying Toaster
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As an Arizonian I can say that contrary to popular belief Pheonix (not metropolitan but the actual city minus all the bullshit suburbs) is Democratic and not racist.
And believe it or not Sheriff Joe is hated by everyone that does not live in AJ and Sun City (the later being a retirement community)
As someone that lives in Texas its results are not unbelievable. The major cities (major population centers) lean liberal. Dallas, Austin, and El Paso were all close to or above 60% Obama. Its the rural areas (West Texas) that are the reddest most racist parts of the state. The study is also flawed as its only looking at the n-word. Racism against hispanics would have much more of the state flare up red, while I imagine the areas around major cities would be light blue.
I don't think this study makes sense in general. The n-word has been hammered out of use. Open racism against other groups is more common now. Just look at how open people are with their prejudices against people in the Middle East. Just because someone doesn't use the n-word (in real life or Google searches) doesn't mean they aren't racist. Racism is usually far more subtle than mere epithets. Its the subtle racism thats often more common, impactfull, and dangerous.
I don't think this study makes sense in general. The n-word has been hammered out of use. Open racism against other groups is more common now. Just look at how open people are with their prejudices against people in the Middle East. Just because someone doesn't use the n-word (in real life or Google searches) doesn't mean they aren't racist. Racism is usually far more subtle than mere epithets. Its the subtle racism thats often more common, impactfull, and dangerous.
Really? Aww man that warms my soul. Can't stand that guy.
Remember this measure is only of racism about black people. The numbers in border states would likely be much different if the study expanded to hispanic slurs.
That said, you're right about Phoenix. Like most cities it's far better than white flighter's surrounding it.
Exactly.
Jest Chillin
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This doesn't account for comfort in expression. The South having a higher Black population has made it adapt. Things become "understood" and codified. The Confederate Flag is a topical example.
However areas in the North where the Black Population is smaller don't need to codify and there's nothing to "understand" since there's very little challenge. There's little to no social stigma either and relative values in these areas aren't much different than rural areas in the South.
Rural areras in either region will likely have similar total numbers but Rural areas with less diversity will have more overt displays as there's little possibility of backlash.
NY had slavery until the 1827. Upstate NYs swag is hardly surprising.
Fuck yea Florida and Texas. Buck that stereotype.
OK Texas has a red spot in the northeast, but that's like near Oklahoma and shit I don't associate with those people. And Florida is a bit of a mess, but as GAF sees it FL should be a heaping mess of redness everywhere. So points for not being that I guess?
Cameron122
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Awkward... Texas is more blue.
we're polite but institutional with our racism
This holds true in my conversations with Phoenix friends. They blame Sheriff Joe on the old people.
Now let's all enjoy MariKKKopa by Desaparecidos.
GoldenEye 007
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GAF is illogical when it comes to Florida.
Cities are generally more liberal, and accepting and that has to do with not being able to dismiss people in many groups because of positive personal interactions.
But I think there is a cultural underpinning as well. The rural north is really racist, but the rural south is worse. The relative differences apply in urban areas as well, just toned down.
I realize and appreciate how they attempted to circumvent the issue that "comfort of expression" poses by using Google. My argument is that people who are told that racism is bad, the truth of the civil war, as well as reminded of recent history of many people subjected to segregation, and the failures of this nation have the facts and they lead to an honest understanding of why racism is a flaw and fundamentally evil. Instead of glossing over these uncomfortable topics kids are encouraged to work towards a goal of equality. The result is breeding a society where acceptance of racial prejudice is something that isn't tolerated socially. Even people with racist leanings don't dare voice them.
The difference between the so-called America hating liberal agenda in the north which admits to the evils of this country, and highlights how things aren't fixed, isn't something that happened in a vacuum. It's a result of a society that feels ashamed of their past. Juxtapose that instead with one that hopes and prays for a return to the way things used to be and tell me which is more likely to chip away inequality?
That sentiment filters into the mindset of people and thus effects how they feel even faced with total anonymity. And of course I'm painting with a broad brush because people are, after all given the freedom to reject both the good and bad things they learn.
You can only fix that which you recognize as a fault.
Prototype Viktor
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Yea but Orange, Texas region is correctly deep redAwkward... Texas is more blue.
Ganzlinger
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Internet Search isn't a very reliable method.
GoldenEye 007
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GAF just can't handle the diversity. Which leads to insults and generalizations. How progressive.
The rural northeast can be extremely backwards and racist, and parts of it do feel exactly like the deep south. No surprises there. Upstate NY is an entirely different world from NYC. There are a lot of poor towns now with no jobs, no upward mobility and stagnant lives turning to cynicism, drugs, and crime. Upstate NY used to be a summer vacation destination for a lot of affluent city-goers, but most of that has dried up over time.
Tons of people who live even a two or three hour drive away from the City have never even gone there. Then you travel abroad and people in Europe are saving up money for years to fulfill their dreams of just visiting NYC once. Hey, no need for that, guys and gals, just watch some Fox News and be scared of what's happening outside of the comfort of your home.
Tons of people who live even a two or three hour drive away from the City have never even gone there. Then you travel abroad and people in Europe are saving up money for years to fulfill their dreams of just visiting NYC once. Hey, no need for that, guys and gals, just watch some Fox News and be scared of what's happening outside of the comfort of your home.
Lord of Castamere
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Smack dab in a "much more". Not that I'm surprised. Rednecks. So many confederate flags in a state that fought in the Union. Racism makes no sense.
Josh with a J
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Can North Virginia be its own state pleaseeeeee
Florida is a state with some of the most varied demographics out there. It's one of the few that really doesn't have many clear statewide stats to use for generalization.
Still it is a place dominated by weird shit. Natives blame the constant influx of tourists and transplants, like seemingly half of America's deadbeat dads, and transplants blame the panhandle. I think the fact that it's a such a strange mix leads to some of it's strangeness.
Throw America in a blender and you get Florida.
Prototype Viktor
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Orange Texas isn't a generalization. I know first hand
The biggest complaint I got from the upstaters was blaming the city for every ill, and every single tax. It's crazy how the right has blamed urban dwellers and sustainable taxation for all their ills.
What's funny is they forget how many of their roads and services are paid for by NYC and it's visitors. Most of the taxes bitched about either don't apply to people outside of the city, or primarily target tourists and are a huge net positive for the state meaning that while they might pay a bit, but they make it back in multiples.
It's a similar concept to how the states that take the most tax money from the feds are almost entirely made up of the states that pay the least. A superiority complex combined with a dismal reality and slick Fox News messaging are potent as hell for blaming whoever is deemed the bad guy be it academics, minorities, urbanites, or the gays.
I live in Florida and I'm surprised at the results. No one should be surprised about south Florida, but the area around Orlando being red while the area around Jacksonville being blue?! Completely opposite of what I would expect.
how else r u gunna figer out how thems been takin our jobzz? may be thems has a week point too?!?! exploet its an get ums back to thire nashion of afrika wiht the liberels and fagores.
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