BassForever
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we get a rumor of the starting roster and based upon the info from evo it was basically confirmed ya? What was that rumor list?
Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
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I don't think they've reused anything so far. Capcom starts from scratch with each new numbered Street Fighter. The character models and animations are all new.
Stone Ocean
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It's a different art style with way more detailed animations, how can they even reuse anything? Everything so far has been brand new.
Beelzebufo
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The remaining characters would be R Mika, Karin, Alex, Urien, and depending on who you ask Dhalsim and Zangief in addition to 3 more new characters. Based on the way the screen is color coded it sounds like Zangief and Dhalsim are safe bets if we have to go by that list, and you can pick two of the remaining four however you wish.
There's not really a great reason to believe those lists, however, outside of the "16 characters, 4 newcomers" stuff that didn't come from that list in the first place.
Beelzebufo
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But we have a multiple Americans
Wait actually, do we? Whaaat. There are definitely multiple UKers.
I don't follow. SFIV had two American newcomers (Viper and Rufus) in addition to a few American veterans. Street Fighter has never had a "one character per country" rule.
No, but there's just not enough room on that starting roster.
Also, if you already had Sim or Blanka, wouldn't you pick a different country for a newbie?
This isn't hard, folks.
Fuz
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Really doesn't feel that they started from scratch this time. Feel more like an improvement, a paint-over job, regarding polycount and animation smoothness.
Captainbob
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If you're talking about this list with Zangief and Dhalsim:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CITeU1dUsAAQqTT.jpg
It would actually be proven fake since it shows 18 characters (while Capcom officially announced a 16 character roster)
Violent Ken was an SNK thing. It was Ken having the Orochi power from the KOF series, so I really doubt we'll ever see him again unless we get another set of Capcom/SNK crossover games.
Omnistalgic
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the only canon violent Ken would I guess be dictator using his psycho power on him and he beating the crap out of ryu for a few minutes. That one is some snk stuff, Ken with the bison cape on and red psycho power looked pretty cool imo
This is a nonissue. There's plenty of precedent for newcomers originating from already represented countries. Just look at SFIV where we got Viper and Rufus: "If you already had Ken, Guile, or Balrog, wouldn't you pick a different country for a newbie?" See how silly your argument sounds? Granted, I'm not expecting to see Blanka, but I think Dhalsim stands a decent chance.
Beelzebufo
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Yeah, I doubt it, but I think that's the list he was asking about. I guess you could figure that two of those extras would be early DLC?
Here's hoping for different SF4 veterans anyway.
The Lone Dragon
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Whether you feel it or not, the vast majority of the animations are completely new.
The main things that are being reused are hit/knockdown animations...and many of those are either updated with new facial expressions or brand new, too. For example, I love the new "getting anti-aired by a standing normal" animation they added.
In terms of attacks, movement, specials, supers, models, stages, UI, engine...that stuff is pretty much all made from scratch. Even fundamental things like Ryu's Hadouken are new animations. His crouch forward, which everyone calls his "SF4 crouch medium", is actually a completely different animation from SF4's.
This is the way it should be when you put a new number on a fighting game, so much respect to Capcom for putting effort into things like that.
He look super sick and has a white afro yes.
Actually she's black widdow
She's literally black widow
Down to the name
Crimson Viper, they even ask her to join the avangers in marvel 3.
Personality wise, she's bout her buinessness , though she's a bit more blunt than guile is. Like most of her post fight talks are like " dude what are you doing with your life , you should get a regular job this shit is dangerous " which is something I appricate. She fights with a suit she made and bops people, her whole existence sort of invalidates a lot off folks entire lives.
No guile is a military emo asshole, I like guile, but dude is strait up an asshole, Its why I like guile. And got more assholish when charlie died, or arguably became the asshole we know now.
July 23 at 6pm PT/9pm ET is what I've read.
But we have a multiple Americans
Wait actually, do we? Whaaat. There are definitely multiple UKers.
We still have two characters originally from America, anyway: Ken (still is) and Charlie Nash (?????).
I thought Violent Ken was based off of the brainwashed Ken in the SFII Movie.
Tizoc
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Correct, SNK based that ver. of Ken on Violent Ken.
I mean, maybe people just want a Capcom vs. SNK 3 that bad? I mean, we already had guest characters in SFxT, and at this point, with SNK apparently open to licensing their characters, maybe they could just give the rights to the entire KoF-verse to Capcom, retcon it into the SF-verse, and do a free update with Terry, Andy, Joe, Mai, and Geese while slowly trickling in other characters via DLC? I mean, at the very least, it would keep the Vs. series alive in some way.
... Of course, looking at this, there's also the very good chance that the Vs. series is dead, and that their idea of keeping those movesets around is to give them to Street Fighter characters. I mean, at the very least, I can see Necalli having Wolverine's moves for this very reason; he was a popular character that Capcom'll likely never get to use agian.
Hang on, I'm lost here. So are you saying you want a new, female Indian fighter instead of Dhalsim, that you simply don't want Dhalsim, or some combination of the 2? Because honestly, I like Dhalsim, so I'd like to have him back, or at least character that plays like him regardless. I don't care who (s)he would be, so long as (s)he's not Rufus-tier; I have some self-respect!
riskVSreward
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"Character slots"...
That would be too awesome for words, even if I doubt that'll ever happen.
Wouldn't mind Pullum back. I just don't want the rost to yet again feature the SF2 cast prominently. It's boooooooring. Just leave it at Bison, Ryu, Cammy, Chun li and Ken. That's already a third of the full rostor. Give characters from Alpha, 3S and EX series a chance. I dont even like Birdy but at least he isnt over exposed and dull.
Good lord, you can't be serious.
Beelzebufo
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There's a confirmed roster of 16, and we likely know how many are sf4 vets, other vets, and brand new lol
Nah, Garou would be enough
Capcom has a graveyard of dead fighting game ips, but they're gonna revive another company's dead fighting game ip before? ehh?
yea, yea. I know
I mean, I know we'd be lucky to see anyone other than the SFII cast, Dudley, Viper, Cody, Yun, Yang, or Sakura within the first year of release. I just dream big, despite keeping realistic expectations. And since SNK's not really been up to much these days, I figure someone should use the characters. Capcom may have too much on their plate, but I can see both franchises sharing a universe without it looking incongruent.
Wait, what? Where's Pullum coming from now? I agree with you on wanting to cut off the SFII cast at the 5 we already have, and thankfully, that might be happening. As much as I find it suspect that they'd add Karin without Sakura (It's almost-literally like adding Ken without Ryu), the more news we get, the more I believe Siliconera.
They were right about 16 characters, they were right about the DLC system, they seem to be right about there being a new Brazilian character, and outside of Karin being in without Sakura (Although they are trying to avoid Shotoverdose...)/there being 2 more grapplers on top of Birdie (He has projectiles, so one can argue he isn't a true grappler), the rest of their roster seems pretty sound. I mean, Juri's inevitable, that comic made Urien relevant again, and people have been wanting to see Alex & Mika back for awhile. I'd love to see Dhalsim and Vega return as DLC down the road, but I think they're trying to go for a healthy balance of characters, rather than a glut of characters from 2 like usual.
Let 'em dream
Aaronrules380
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Ken and Ryu are technically SF1 characters though
direct_quote
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Yes please, we didn't wait 7 years for a SF numbered sequel to get half the cast of SF4 back.. Ease up on sf2 and st4 characters and give us more alpha and 3rd strike characters..
Yeah not much, aside from working on KOFXIV.
The day people know that they don't exist, the better these threads will be. Ken getting in does not mean it took a spot from some other character. That other character never was in the plans.
I know, I'd love to see Blodia and Kikaioh in a SF game too
please give us Rival Schools chars goddamit
Dr. Buni
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Lol. I was hoping this kinda ridiculous idea was exclusive to the Smash fandom, but seems like it isn't.
Beelzebufo
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Siliconera wasn't right about the 16 characters, the DLC system, or the Brazil character. All of that was known way before from a separate source. There's really no reason to believe them at all, the current select screen gives less reason to believe because if we have 3 USF4 vets left, there's no room for Alex Urien Mika and Karin. Lots of misinformation in your post.
Also, for what it's worth, I'm not sure what you mean by "like usual" lol. Like SF4 you mean? Alpha had a lot of characters from all throughout the series, and 3 had barely any from SF2.
What ridiculous idea? They've literally said that we have 8 characters left in the core cast, 3 being newbies. And with the background coloring, it looks like 3 are USF4 vets and 2 are vets of other games.
This isn't a "smash" anything- this is what Capcom has explicitly said or implied.
Captainbob
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Ono will attend Hong Kong Ani-Con & Games this weekend.
I doubt they will announce anything new, but maybe we can hope for some Necalli gameplay.
I doubt they will announce anything new, but maybe we can hope for some Necalli gameplay.
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Stone Ocean
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It's related to when people say "waste of a character slot" because there is no such thing as a character slot since fighting game rosters are decided in pre-production
I think it's the idea that "character x that I like didn't make it in because they spent all their time on character y". Ono and Combofiend have both talked about how Capcom has a certain theme and certain ideas in mind for SFV, and the character selection is combination of their vision for the game plus fan suggestions. Ono specifically said a lot of people were surprised by Birdie's inclusion, and that that was their intended reaction.
The idea of "character slots" implies that they are working with a pool of every SF character in existence, and the reason your favorite character isn't in is because they "wasted" their time on Birdie, which is not how it works.
Beelzebufo
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If they locked it to 16 and then pushed the rest to post launch, there's definitely a limit.
Like if they already have more characters ready to go off the bat, I'm feel like it's intuitive that the 16 character limit was decided before 16 different characters were determined to be completed. That's why we knew there would be 16 characters months ago.
They literally can't. Everyone in SFV was remade from scratch.
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