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[Kalamari]

Is there any hindrance caused by a double-tap dash that a Hitbox wouldn't solve? Serious question.

I think a rightward double tap dash would be super easy, but a leftward dash would be more difficult because the ring finder isn't as dexterous as the index finder, at least in my case. I am sure that one could improve with practice, however the same could be said for left dashes on arcade stick.

 

[NEO0MJ]

A lot of companies read GAF, mostly for laughs.

You mean my insight isn't as valuable as I thought?

 

[mbpm1]

A lot of companies read GAF, mostly for laughs.

You mean capcom-senpai noticed us and read our fanfic?

 

[SixMachine]

I actually disagree, I think Combofiend made his point about proximity guard. Footsies is like chicken, you want to be at the right spot at the right time. If you were caught blocking a whiffed move, you were caught out of the moment you were backing off, instead of remaining neutral so you can whiff punish, like you would be if you confident in you position. If you could freely walk back and block you would get both the position if it whiffed (and you aren't in guard so you can whiff punish if possible) or a block if you about getting tagged, hence get their cake and eat it too statement. Proximity guard has its place in the game in manipulating the opponents movement.

He obviously understands the issue that the proximity guard box may be too wide, that is something they can adjust and he mentions that.

Edit: to kumubou about combofiend's proximity guard statement.

 

[Kumubou]

I think a rightward double tap dash would be super easy, but a leftward dash would be more difficult because the ring finder isn't as dexterous as the index finder, at least in my case. I am sure that one could improve with practice, however the same could be said for left dashes on arcade stick.

I don't even think that's necessary on a Hitbox -- can't you replicate double taps on a hit box by hitting left/right and holding it, and then by hitting and letting go of the other direction? On newer ones that should force the controller to return a neutral state.

 

[DunpealD]

I don't think the issue was with lights leading to big damage (hell, SF4 has the same problem), I think it was more that it felt like the never could decide if they wanted a chain-based combo system or a link-based one and the whole thing felt half-baked, especially with most Tekken characters having a number of target combos, to the point where they could ignore the boost chains completely if they wanted to.

I also thought their answer regarding proximity guard was kind of wack, basically saying that it is the way it is because that's how Street Fighter has been, not because it's good for the game.

What I meant with lights being too strong is the fact that they had too much utility and were able to lead into long weak combos burning a lot of time. There is a reason why people called the game Jab x Timeout. The chain system obviously compounded this particular issue and would have needed some further refinement.
The interesting thing is the "crush counter" system was already in place in SFxT, but obviously underutilized.

 

[vocab]

I remember when they nerfed Cody's 3 frame cr.lk to 5 frames and no one played him again.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

You mean my insight isn't as valuable as I thought?

I mostly looked for leaked/incorrect info on games I worked on. It was mostly wrong but some hit the nail on the head with scary accuracy. This was when I first heard about GAF on the 1upShow or GFW or something. Found the GAF community mostly great and passionate but sometimes filled with hyperbole.

You mean capcom-senpai noticed us and read our fanfic?

I dunno about Capcom people but other friends at other companies send me thread about the game they are working on. I still remember making one thread making an artist cry because of the mean comments about her artwork. Only time I get upset is people saying how easy it is to fix X or Y but then again its the internet.

 

[Shouta]

I remember when they nerfed Cody's 3 frame cr.lk to 5 frames and no one played him again.

In SFxT? One of the best SFxT players, TheCoolKid still played Cody and Bob, heh.

 

[enzo_gt]

You mean my insight isn't as valuable as I thought?

better start a petition

that'll show them how to quantitatively gauge the value of opinons from a minority demographic

 

[Kalamari]

I don't even think that's necessary on a Hitbox -- can't you replicate double taps on a hit box by hitting left/right and holding it, and then by hitting and letting go of the other direction? On newer ones that should force the controller to return a neutral state.

I don't own a hitbox so I don't really know about input tricks and such, I figured it worked just like an arcade stick. If that's true, it sounds like a much better way to input dashes than double tapping.

 

[mbpm1]

better start a petition

that'll show them how to quantitatively gauge the value of opinons from a minority demographic

Nah, a gofundme would work better.

 

[SquirrelSoup]

How close is Tekken Revolution to T7 considering the lack of bound combos? I hear Revolution is fucked up now thanks to the stats though.

TR is pretty good for learning for Tekken 7 since the general level of play is quite a bit lower compared to the shark pit that is TTT2 online. And it doesn't have bound and is 1v1.

The stat/unlock system is pretty borked indeed but personally i don't mind messing with it. Makes for a nice enough diversion to play Tekken grind rpg if nothing else. Not like it's costing me anything.

 

[sixteen-bit]

An audiovisual representation of the Gamerbee vs Infiltration losers' finals

lmao, nice one.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

You mean my insight isn't as valuable as I thought?

I actually disagree, I think Combofiend made his point about proximity guard. Footsies is like chicken, you want to be at the right spot at the right time. If you were caught blocking a whiffed move, you were caught out of the moment you were backing off, instead of remaining neutral so you can whiff punish, like you would be if you confident in you position. If you could freely walk back and block you would get both the position if it whiffed (and you aren't in guard so you can whiff punish if possible) or a block if you about getting tagged, hence get their cake and eat it too statement. Proximity guard has its place in the game in manipulating the opponents movement.

He obviously understands the issue that the proximity guard box may be too wide, that is something they can adjust and he mentions that.

Edit: to kumubou about combofiend's proximity guard statement.

How would this affect charge characters?

 

[irfaanator]

How would this affect charge characters?

edit: guess you talking about something else

 

[Parallax Scroll]

I guess the cooldowns in that robot game are kinda like charge moves you don't have to charge.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Haunts please follow me on twitter

 

[fader]

Haunts please follow me on twitter

random?

 

[mbpm1]

Haunts we have to know.

Is keiko streaming?

 

[irfaanator]

so does anybody know when the codes come online tonight

 

[Anne]

If there isn't a notification in SFV telling me when Keiko is streaming I will riot.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Street Fighter 5 System Breakdown

Looking forward to playing the beta tomorrow.

I only wish that they would start it early instead of 9PM EST.

so does anybody know when the codes come online tonight

Beta servers are going up tomorrow.

 

[Skilletor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJg9ueSf4Os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOs7qEm9GMM

Couple vids I caught. Poongko playing vs. a couple of my friends in SF5.

Game is so dope.

 

[irfaanator]

Street Fighter 5 System Breakdown

Looking forward to playing the beta tomorrow.

I only wish that they would start it early instead of 9PM EST.



Beta servers are going up tomorrow.

so not tonight

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

so not tonight

Yeah.

The only thing you can do now is put in your code and download the client off of PSN.

You can also start up the game and watch the server connect error message.

I know they said online matches only but I'm hoping they include a training mode at least so I can test things out before playing other people.

 

[irfaanator]

Yeah.

The only thing you can do now is put in your code and download the client off of PSN.

You can also start up the game and watch the server connect error message.

I know they said online matches only but I'm hoping they include a training mode at least so I can test things out before playing other people.

you get put in training mode while finding matches

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

you get put in training mode while finding matches

That's pretty cool.

I don't know if USF4 had that but I made great use of that feature in BBCP.

 

[irfaanator]

That's pretty cool.

I don't know if USF4 had that but I made great use of that feature in BBCP.

they added that in usf4. you could only do arcade mode while waiting for ranked before

 

[Professor Beef]

Have fun with the beta, guys. No PS4 for me, and I'm not done finding a new place quite yet.

 

[Dlent]

I own a hitbox and dashing is as simple as holding forward and then tapping the back button. I agree with Karst's points about dashing being easier with two buttons, so I took a more practical approach than whining at the developers

 

[Tripon]

Some people have no chill.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

I own a hitbox and dashing is as simple as holding forward and then tapping the back button. I agree with Karst's points about dashing being easier with two buttons, so I took a more practical approach than whining at the developers

Kind of funny how this is only possible because of SOCD cleaning.

 

[Dlent]

Kind of funny how this is only possible because of SOCD cleaning.

I don't really know if I would even bother using it without it. I originally bought my hitbox in order to abuse easy Korean backdashing in Tekken, but I ended up not getting that into Tekken, lol.

 

[Kalamari]

Haunts, put Keiko in SFV

 

[ShinMaruku]

Watch Keiko become a Capcom employee and put beats and bees in your heads. :E

 

[petghost]

I don't even think that's necessary on a Hitbox -- can't you replicate double taps on a hit box by hitting left/right and holding it, and then by hitting and letting go of the other direction? On newer ones that should force the controller to return a neutral state.

This is true.

 

[Dahbomb]

Some people have no chill.

OH MY GAWD!

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

they added that in usf4. you could only do arcade mode while waiting for ranked before

Glad to see it becoming standard then.


Also from the breakdown video it's stated that you start the round on whichever side you were last on.

So if you are 1P and you end up on the right side when the first round ends, second round will begin with you on the right side instead of the left side (normal 1P starting position).

 

[Shouta]

Snake Eyes has signed with Red Bull. =O

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Snake Eyes has signed with Red Bull. =O

That's not a big surprise. Their twitter account always talks about him.

 

[fader]

Snake Eyes has signed with Red Bull. =O

finally lol

 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Snake_Eyez_/status/623999578002460672

Yeah, interesting that they're moving into sponsoring players. Thought they would just do more tournaments.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Some people have no chill.

Should have 3 heads of Justin, Champ and Chris G. Actually just make is Justin.

 

[enzo_gt]

Snake Eyes has signed with Red Bull. =O

Is this their first signee?

Good pick up.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Haunts, put Keiko in SFV

?

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Is this their first signee?

Good pick up.

They have Kayane too.

 

[Omega]

time to drink a red bull in celebration

 

[CurlyW]

Snake Eyes has signed with Red Bull. =O

That's great news and long overdue. (But why not sign him before Evo?)

So that's what, 4 or 5 fighting game players joining esports teams in the last 3 weeks?

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJg9ueSf4Os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOs7qEm9GMM

Couple vids I caught. Poongko playing vs. a couple of my friends in SF5.

Game is so dope.

The more I watch the more I'm anticipating this.