I'd rather go with the official word and not rely on insider information myself. It was announced as "First on PS4," suggesting timed exclusivity, and Sony has never had an issue in the past with their 3rd party console exclusives having their PC counterpart mentioned to some degree. The only way I don't see the game coming to XB1 is if the game is coming to Nintendo's next console, and Square simply can't announce that port for obvious reasons.
Rise of the Tomb Raider coming to PC Early 2016. PS4 Holiday 2016
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I'd rather go with the official word and not rely on insider information myself. It was announced as "First on PS4," suggesting timed exclusivity, and Sony has never had an issue in the past with their 3rd party console exclusives having their PC counterpart mentioned to some degree. The only way I don't see the game coming to XB1 is if the game is coming to Nintendo's next console, and Square simply can't announce that port for obvious reasons.
I feel like this does the complete opposite though. Now PS4 owners know definitively that it's coming to their system. I thought they'd wait until next year to announce other platforms.
Effigenius
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Square puts tomb raider on everything. I dont think they'd agree to a full exclusive.
The last of us is an interesting comparison, but the last of us had all of its multiplayer plus the dlc and it wasnt released at full price and it was only a year after the original game. But still, that is a good point and it will be fun to see what happens. Its too bad the games are releasing in different months so we won't see their npd rankings.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Seems like a very long time. I doubt anyone would really care about it that much and would rather just play whatever is coming out at that time.
I do say, this makes me much more less likely to buy it a little after launch now but in the distant future. I see no rush now.
I do say, this makes me much more less likely to buy it a little after launch now but in the distant future. I see no rush now.
GribbleGrunger
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I'll take the bargain bin version a week after it releases.
I guess we'll see when it launches on PS4 how the sales are. I think they did it because a lot of people were probably thinking it would be out by the summer at the latest. Knowing you have to wait a whole year is a long time.
Because presumably there is going to be a showing at gamescom and maybe a bundle announcement. People will go into gamescom knowing the ps4 version ain't happening anytime soon. But here's this cheap Xbox bundle coming out this fall
MrTroubleMaker
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I guess I'll be getting it in 2016 then
Ah, I thought you meant something more malicious by it. My bad.
drotahorror
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I guess.
It's been over a year since Super Time Force Ultra came out on 360/xb1. Here I am still waiting on the ps4 version and I'll get it day 1. Have a PC and an XB1(just got) too.
Or some people like the story and don't want it ruined for them? No reason to be a dick about it.
shinobi602
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I'd get it this year for my Xbox One if I hadn't already purchased TR
E on my PS4. I need the continuity on one system. There's so many games between now and next holiday, I'm fine with waiting that long.
E on my PS4. I need the continuity on one system. There's so many games between now and next holiday, I'm fine with waiting that long.User 479360
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Guess I'll be playing it twice then.
Not only are they sacrificing 20m+ users, they will be entering post Uncharted 4 market with a $60 late release. I recall another Xbone timed exclusive that bombed as a late release on the PS4 last year (sorry i cant recall the name of the title).
If i was a betting man, i'd bet this deal will turn sour for MS and Square.
Square and MS should have pushed for full exclusive or not done the deal at all.
DeepEnigma
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I'd get it this year for my Xbox One if I hadn't already purchased TR
Diitto.
walltowall
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What if Sony had a conversation with them about adding a little extra?
I'd get it this year for my Xbox One if I hadn't already purchased TR
It's funny how this works out for many. You start a series on one console holder and you just want to continue the series on that particular companies hardware.
Of all the games to throw money at. I mean it probably was cheap given the reboots performance but oh man.
And releasing the same day as FO4? I guess if you've already got that exclusivity money, you can take risks, however a lot of this reads as DOA and really pointless if you were trying to reinvigorate the brand.
And releasing the same day as FO4? I guess if you've already got that exclusivity money, you can take risks, however a lot of this reads as DOA and really pointless if you were trying to reinvigorate the brand.
Notor!ousG
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Not a retorical or troll question, but are there really so many people that'll buy an X1 just for Tomb Raider?
lukeskymac
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It's not like they would have sold much on PS4 releasing it along with PC: Q1-2 2016 is Uncharted territory (heh)
RedAssedApe
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I'd get it this year for my Xbox One if I hadn't already purchased TR
I can see Tomb Raider: Lara Croft Collection Xbox Bundle like ACU and AC4 last year
Having come from the gamestop management side for 6 years (no longer there), trust me big games launching on the same day aren't a huge deal. If your game is different enough from the competition and targets another fanbase, etc.
Tomb Raider and Fallout 4 will have cross over fanbase, but it also will have their own unique fanbases to draw from. You also actually get more foot traffic by being on the same day which increases impulse purchases, etc. I know this from experience trust me. Now if you have 3 or 4 major titles launching (like the year of red dead in March) at the same day it will hurt others sales as it's too much.
I have no idea they may have a bundle or something for this though.
To be honest, I'm very surprised Square announced PC/PS4 versions already, well before the release on Xbox 360 and Xbox One. I thought they were going to do that, like, one month after Rise of the Tomb Raider released on MS consoles. We knew it was going to happen, so the mere fact the game is coming to other consoles isn't surprising; just the announcement timing.
Vire
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Proven commodity with a long history of past success or risky business venture that may completely drive your games division into the red.
Tough choice.
Notor!ousG
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Every company should do this, it's a good thing. Transparency is good for us all.
So it's more constructive to talk about how stupid or not stupid they are without knowing how much Microsoft paid them? Maybe Microsoft even forfeited the license fees on top of paying them a good sum.
Getting Tomb Raider hasn't stopped them from investing in new IP.
Ori came out earlier this year. We have Quantum Break, Scalebound, ReCore and Sea of Thieves announced as new IP. Also smaller titles that are digital only.
SnowFlakeCake
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It seems pretty obvious that the deal in the first place sprouted from SE being shit scared that Tomb Raider wouldn't sell on PS4 as UC4 was also meant for the holidays. So they gambled and took what MS was offering, thinking it was better than what they would make from the PS4 version. But UC4 was delayed and they probably thought fuck it let's go all out hence the full 12 months exclusivity.
TR reboot did so well, just don't understand why SE got so scared. UC is a big franchise sure, but it's not one that brings in eye watering numbers or any of that shit. UC4 will release and sell well but there would have been more than enough room for ROTR. SE have the financials though, they obviously know what they're doing.
TR reboot did so well, just don't understand why SE got so scared. UC is a big franchise sure, but it's not one that brings in eye watering numbers or any of that shit. UC4 will release and sell well but there would have been more than enough room for ROTR. SE have the financials though, they obviously know what they're doing.
Effigenius
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You mean like ReCore, Scalebound, Quantum Break and Sea of Thieves? Both companies are making new ips and continuing existing ones, and paying to keep games off other systems.
RedAssedApe
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Sandwiched between BLOPS3 and Battlefront. Same day as FO4. I dunno man...
slavesnyder
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Exactly. I added a thought. Sorry about that.
But Bioshock selling better on 360, with being US centric, having a 1 year headstart and with bigger installbase is not a risky bet.
Cthulhu_Steev
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As long as you stop being a fanny because of a joke.
I'm not saying Tomb Raider will do amazing numbers, but Tomb Raider DE STILL lists as a top seller on xb1 and ps4 digital stores regularly and still sells copies at retail. The game has legs and was very well liked.
BLOPS3 and Battlefront are more likely to eat into each others sales than Tomb Raiders also as they target the shooter base. Tomb Raider will also more than likely get bundled for Black Friday or have a ACU/AC4 type bundle which will increase it's #'s.
But with a whole year delay, by the time it comes out on PS4, it will be probably discounted on Steam, and perhaps even a Games for Gold on XB1 even.
It will feel -very- stale, and coming during a season of big new AAAs and when the AA exclusives are "expected" to start rolling out on PS4.
It's a mind boggling move either way.
What I think it means is that there was a very big check for unlimited licences so that they could bundle it (probably alongside Tomb Raider Remaster) in a $299 package during the Holidays and make sure they could go through the stocks during the next year or so with the words "Only on Xbox" or an equivalent.
Probably similar to what happened to ACU, but Crystal Dynamics went quite a bit farther this time around than Ubi.
Square will release this for $60 just as TR DE. Its just what they do.
Why would Sony care about exclusive content? They might just sit back and watch this franchise crash in the face of Uncharted.
Remember Square were the ones who cried commercial failure when TR sold over 3m copies the first time around.
Some people really enjoy not being spoiled, hell GAF has non-spoiler threads for press conferences. No reason to poke fun at the guy for enjoying a story is all I'm saying.
Uh so this will go up in a post Uncharted 4 time on PS4 next year, that won't be good for sales especially considering it'll be $60 for a game that came out a year ago which would already lead to lower sales (yea I know not on the same platform but still). The separate date for PC also doesn't make sense.
SenjutsuSage
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And, yea, this isn't the worst thing in the world because I'd be perfectly fine with waiting until next year also if I didn't have or wanted an Xbox One. If Persona 5 were ever announced for the Xbox One, I'd wait my ass off. As of now, it's the reason I will pick up a PS4. The next Uncharted use to be my biggest reason, and it's still a very big motivation, but Persona 5... I need that real bad.
TR isn't Mario, Zelda, Gran Turismo, Halo, Uncharted - those are system sellers.
The Mad Draklor
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Name those people who are hoping that FFVII won't come to the XBO. Last time I checked, being realistic about the possibility of an XBO version is not the same as hoping it won't come.
The XBO isn't the 360. Last gen, MS gave a massive JRPG push early in the 360's lifecycle. We are not seeing such a thing this time around, thus preventing growth of the JRPG fanbase on the XBO.
digoutyoursoul
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This
Instead we keep getting the same fucking ips, where is this gens new gears or halo in terms of AAA backing. I realise these ips are difficult to make and get success but damn, everyone was talking about backwards compatibility being the best MS E3 announcement, for me it was Recore
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