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[yurinka]

What's the most accurate leak? Seems like Bogard's is still, and he didn't mention returning characters only that of the 16 initial ones, 4 would be new, right?

The only accurate leak is the one from Bogard. He guessed the number of characters, characters included, DLC strategy and even the name of mechanics.

The other 'leaks' included a roster where some characters already announced didn't appear, and said there was more than 16 characters. So they were bullshit, the only real leak seems to be Bogard's one.

 

[Village]

Vega would be cool to see in SFV just because they absolutely had no clue or care with what to do with him in SF4. So many garbage moves and really stingy balancing. His overhead not actually being an overhead in vanilla was just so funny and telling.

Vega is a character would be interesting to see, but personally I wouldn't care if he was gone. He's one of those characters who's I just didn't like

 

[Seik]

I can feel it.

The grand return of Volcano Rosso. :lol

 

[Omnistalgic]

I would love to see Sakura and Akuma. I'm a ken main, but honestly, I really love all shotos, can't help it '-(

I actually never play Akuma, but love fighting against him, so I hope he's like a secret boss for getting a certain amount of perfects or something.

Some things i noticed with art directions.

Necali's dreads shouldn't be bouncing like that, they are much to heavy. Dunno if it's more noticeable to me because I used to have dreads lol.

Don't like Ken's super that much, it should be more visceral, Ken looks like he's just sliding across the characters because his foot has fire butter on them. Would have liked to see him just do something crazy and hard hitting like 3rd strike.

 

[Son Of D]

Random thought: while Capcom has a massive backlog of characters they could slowly drip feed us as DLC, has anyone else pondered if they might also add brand new characters beyond the starting roster as DLC? Or more specifically, how often?
I don't know how long it takes them to concept up, approve and flesh out a character so it's something I find somewhat intriguing :3

I feel that we'll get a few more newcomers via DLC. We got newcomers via new editions in SFIV.

 

[red720]

A lot of people seem to be happy with the idea of the 4 you mentioned plus another (usually juri) filling out the remaining 5 slots for returning characters (and I count myself among them :3 ), but the main issue with that is the coloured segments of the character roster on that Capcom slide and what they might mean.

Some think the green means SF2 characters, some think 'returning from SF4', some think 'characters returning from a numbered entry, aka not alpha'. It could mean nothing at all admittedly and Capcom is just messing with us, but who knows?

edit: not sure how valid this is but some peeps online have been saying that Bifu accidentally commented on Rashid on Arturo's stream. He apparently said something to the effect of "you would like Rashid if you liked Fuerte"
I might do some sleuthing to see if I can find this supposed stream, but for now it's just a rumour I found floating on the net.

Looking at that image, the blue to be characters from previous games that weren't in 4. Alex seems like a lock for one of these remaining spaces.

If the green is returning SF4 character that doesn't leave a lot of room for more characters from 2, so I suspect there'll be no room for Blanka or Dhalsim so we are probably looking at Necro for the last blue space.

As for the last three green spaces, I'll speculate we'll get one of the boxers. Honda, seems likely since Bison no longer has his Psycho Crusher, and lastly perhaps Juri as one of the most popular new characters in SF4 - as well as having moves (ie her reversal) that would translate well as a V-Skill and a super that would work as a V-Trigger.

Purple is obviously new characters.

In summary I think the cast will be:

Ryu
Ken
Chun-Li
Cammy
Bison
Nash
Birdie
Necalli

Alex
Necro

Dudley or Balrog
Juri
Honda

+3 more new characters.

 

[Clawww]

I would love to see Sakura and Akuma. I'm a ken main, but honestly, I really love all shotos, can't help it '-(

I actually never play Akuma, but love fighting against him, so I hope he's like a secret boss for getting a certain amount of perfects or something.

Some things i noticed with art directions.

Necali's dreads shouldn't be bouncing like that, they are much to heavy. Dunno if it's more noticeable to me because I used to have dreads lol.

Don't like Ken's super that much, it should be more visceral, Ken looks like he's just sliding across the characters because his foot has fire butter on them. Would have liked to see him just do something crazy and hard hitting like 3rd strike.

Ken's super needs work. It's extremely underwhelming overall, from the animation/attack itself to the way the camera moves.

 

[Wild Card]

Good points about the voice, yeah I can see what you're talking about. Sean Schemmel for someone would be great, though I don't think I have ever heard him voice a character other than Goku(not that I'm aware anyway), other than any other rolls he might have in DBZ. I really like watching the SSJ3 transformation on youtube.

 

[red720]

Ken's super needs work. It's extremely underwhelming overall, from the animation/attack itself to the way the camera moves.

I'd like to see what the all the Supers would look like without the changing camera angles. I wonder how that would affect the flow of the game.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Ken's super needs work. It's extremely underwhelming overall, from the animation/attack itself to the way the camera moves.

yeah, think we should go on Unity to address? I mean, it really looks weak atm...but do casuals think that's cool?

unghh...we might be stuck with this is so -_-

 

[Village]

The only thing with super's i'm concerned about is being able to choose one.

put it in capcom

 

[Lulubop]

Looking at that image, the blue to be characters from previous games that weren't in 4. Alex seems like a lock for one of these remaining spaces.

If the green is returning SF4 character that doesn't leave a lot of room for more characters from 2, so I suspect there'll be no room for Blanka or Dhalsim so we are probably looking at Necro for the last blue space.

As for the last three green spaces, I'll speculate we'll get one of the boxers. Honda, seems likely since Bison no longer has his Psycho Crusher, and lastly perhaps Juri as one of the most popular new characters in SF4 - as well as having moves (ie her reversal) that would translate well as a V-Skill and a super that would work as a V-Trigger.

Purple is obviously new characters.

In summary I think the cast will be:

Ryu
Ken
Chun-Li
Cammy
Bison
Nash
Birdie
Necalli

Alex
Necro

Dudley or Balrog
Juri
Honda

+3 more new characters.

way to many dudes, not happening.

Urien is more of a lock than Alex, and even then I think Alex is likely. Necro probably not. Of the Green circles two would have to be female imo if Alex and Urien are in.

 

[Dremark]

Alen.

Allen Snider from SF:EX confirmed.

I really dislike taking away a special move to make it a v-skill. I'd much rather people retain specials and make the v-skill unique.

Cammy main since ST and I hate that spin knuckle is her v-skill. With the speed it has now, it'd actually be super useful to be able to 2-in-1 into. Should have given her something else.

I think it really depends on the character. If the existing move fits the intention of the V-Trigger I don't think it's a bad idea, but if it's part of the normal tool set like the spin knuckle is I think it's a misstep.

I really don't like Skullomania, but I would love Hokotu, Pollum, Darun, and C.Jack in a proper SF. One where everybody doesn't have the 80% of the same normals, links, and special cancel into super, super, super. lol

Those games were ridiculous but they were fun. Would be awesome to see D. Dark, C. Jack, Nanase, etc. but it's probably never going to happen unless Arika develops Fighting Layer 2.

What do people think of Necalli? Not really sold on him although this V-Trigger when he gets that red hair does look dope. Hoping for a boxer in this game that isn't Balrog. Dudley or a new Boxer (with Dudleys playstyle).

I think he's fine, he has a unique look and looks like he will have a unique playstyle. However i personally have zero interest in using him.

Bogard said 4 new characters and the names Laura, Rachid and Zen.
Considering he predicted the v-trigger system by name, the dlc model and a few other things with 100% accuracy I'd say the characters he mentioned are incredibly likely.

Also, Siliconera has a good track record of accurate leaks and mentioned Alex, Urien, Karin and R. Mika. I know it doesn't mean much to anyone else but a personal source concurring that Mika was in and already far enough along to be playable lends extra weight to that for me :3
Admittedly I don't know if/how many of these 4 are going to be in the 'core' release roster though.

Yeah Bogard has told us enough right I think it makes sense to believe his leaks for now. Siliconera has a good track record and I really want those characters in so I am cautiously optimistic about them being in.

 

[Mizerman]

yeah, think we should go on Unity to address? I mean, it really looks weak atm...but do casuals think that's cool?

unghh...we might be stuck with this is so -_-

It'll probably be your best bet. They'll probably improve the look of the super. Hopefully.

 

[Noema]

It'd be cool to see a version of Dhalsim in this game that actually stood a chance against most of the cast. In SFIV, Dhalsim either did ok against certain characters (Ryu, Honda, Guile, Sagat, Hugo) or got destroyed by divekicks+vortex.

Given this game's apparent return to "meat-and-potatoes" SF gameplay, it seems possible that Dhalsim's character design could actually work in SFV. What do you guys think?

 

[red720]

way to many dudes, not happening.

Urien is more of a lock than Alex, and even then I think Alex is likely. Necro probably not. Of the Green circles two would have to be female imo if Alex and Urien are in.

Didn't vanilla SF4 only have Chun-Li and Crimson Viper for female characters? My list already has 3, and I'd expect one or two of the brand new characters to be female.

 

[Lulubop]

Didn't vanilla SF4 only have Chun-Li and Crimson Viper for female characters? My list already has 3, and I'd expect one or two of the brand new characters to be female.

And I think they'll be an attempt to have more females in, especially over scrubs like Honda and Necro. I think only one new character will be a female.

 

[Dremark]

It'd be cool to see a version of Dhalsim in this game that actually stood a chance against most of the cast. In SFIV, Dhalsim either wrecked faces, or got destroyed by divekicks+vortex.

Given this game's apparent return to "meat-and-potatoes" SF gameplay, it seems possible that Dhalsim's character design could actually work in SFV. What do you guys think?

I think he's going to be a weird fit with the no changes in attacks based on range. I could see them making some changes to his overall kit.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Good points about the voice, yeah I can see what you're talking about. Sean Schemmel for someone would be great, though I don't think I have ever heard him voice a character other than Goku(not that I'm aware anyway), other than any other rolls he might have in DBZ. I really like watching the SSJ3 transformation on youtube.

He voices Lucario in Smash Bros.

 

[Lulubop]

Urien and Juri seem like the biggest locks to me at the moment. The other blue can be Karin or Alex. The Greens could be Juri, Sakura (or another female) and a SF2 character. That's where I'm leaning anyway.

 

[MidnightPass]

do you guys think Capcom is really going to bring up the Illuminati again in SF V...

you would think they would just retcon that whole thing, since it was along time ago for SF 3...

i find it interesting that they are bringing that plot point back?

 

[Noema]

I think he's going to be a weird fit with the no changes in attacks based on range. I could see them making some changes to his overall kit.

That's a good point. They could always give him a bunch of command normals but I wonder how that'd work in practice.

 

[Lulubop]

do you guys think Capcom is really going to bring up the Illuminati again in SF V...

you would think they would just retcon that whole thing, since it was along time ago for SF 3...

i find it interesting that they are bringing that plot point back?

They're probably gonna be the main antagonist so yes.

 

[kirblar]

It'd be cool to see a version of Dhalsim in this game that actually stood a chance against most of the cast. In SFIV, Dhalsim either did ok against certain characters (Ryu, Honda, Guile, Sagat, Hugo) or got destroyed by divekicks+vortex.

Given this game's apparent return to "meat-and-potatoes" SF gameplay, it seems possible that Dhalsim's character design could actually work in SFV. What do you guys think?

Dhalsim got nerfed into the ground because casual/low-level players despise him and other defensive characters.

 

[MidnightPass]

They're probably gonna be the main antagonist so yes.

i thought they would of just avoided that whole plot point, since SF 3 was a pretty controversial game

i find it exciting that they are actually going to bring them back..

-is this more of a fan service thing bringing them back, or does Capcom just really care about canon

 

[KidA Seven]

do you guys think Capcom is really going to bring up the Illuminati again in SF V...

you would think they would just retcon that whole thing, since it was along time ago for SF 3...

i find it interesting that they are bringing that plot point back?

It's pretty much confirmed at this point.

-Nash has the gem that Urien and Gill have
-Illuminati egypt stage is found in Nash's artwork
-New Zealand stage has illuminati statues

I'm glad they're bringing it up for SFV. I like Gill and Urien.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Didn't vanilla SF4 only have Chun-Li and Crimson Viper for female characters? My list already has 3, and I'd expect one or two of the brand new characters to be female.

Vanilla arcade yeah, only them

Vanilla console got Cammy, Rose and Sakura

 

[Lulubop]

It's pretty much confirmed at this point.

-Nash has the gem that Urien and Gill have
-Illuminati egypt stage is found in Nash's artwork
-New Zealand stage has illuminati statues

I'm glad they're bringing it up for SFV. I like Gill and Urien.

Additionally there's that comic. Not sure if it's canon but the timing can't be a coincidence

Some of the win quotes actually kinda back up the comic

 

[Geminosity]

A ratio of 3:1. Three existing and one original chararcter for the first few waves of DLC At least.

Ooh! Interesting. Is that a rough guess ratio or is it based on new vs returning in previous installments?

I feel that we'll get a few more newcomers via DLC. We got newcomers via new editions in SFIV.

Yeah, here's hoping. It's nice to have the occasional surprise among the old faces :3

Yeah Bogard has told us enough right I think it makes sense to believe his leaks for now. Siliconera has a good track record and I really want those characters in so I am cautiously optimistic about them being in.

Me too. I trust siliconera a lot, I'm just not 100% on them all being 'core' rather than some ending up as the first waves/drips of dlc.

Didn't vanilla SF4 only have Chun-Li and Crimson Viper for female characters? My list already has 3, and I'd expect one or two of the brand new characters to be female.

I'm hoping they'd aim to try and at least alleviate the disparity rather than use past trends as an excuse for continuing to make the roster a man festival with token women added :/
Again, EXTRA annoying to me because both females were relegated to 'speed' type as usual. For the love of heck Capcom, stop piling all the female characters at the top of the graph XD

 

[kirblar]

Additionally there's that comic. Not sure if it's canon but the timing can't be a coincidence

Some of the win quotes actually kinda back up the comic

Comic definitely appears to be canon.

I'd really rather them do a new female pro wrestler rather than re-do Mika. Especially since there are a lot of famous ones they could model the character after in the same way as Tyson and Lee.

 

[MidnightPass]

now with Gill and Urien, who was the more powerful of the 2? in terms of canon?

 

[Renekton]

It'd be cool to see a version of Dhalsim in this game that actually stood a chance against most of the cast. In SFIV, Dhalsim either did ok against certain characters (Ryu, Honda, Guile, Sagat, Hugo) or got destroyed by divekicks+vortex.

Given this game's apparent return to "meat-and-potatoes" SF gameplay, it seems possible that Dhalsim's character design could actually work in SFV. What do you guys think?

He seems like a major design conundrum, sitting on extreme ends of the spectrum. He brings great despair to characters like Ryu, while himself despairing against Yun.

 

[red720]

Ooh! Interesting. Is that a rough guess ratio or is it based on new vs returning in previous installments?


Yeah, here's hoping. It's nice to have the occasional surprise among the old faces :3


Me too. I trust siliconera a lot, I'm just not 100% on them all being 'core' rather than some ending up as the first waves/drips of dlc.

I'm hoping they'd aim to try and at least alleviate the disparity rather than use past trends as an excuse for continuing to make the roster a man festival with token women added :/

I think they will go with a quarter of the cast as female. I don't really think it needs to approach a 50/50 split. And they seem to be keen on quarters - quarter of the cast new characters, quarter of the cast returning from games other than 4, quarter of the new characters female, quarter of the cast female...

Edit: last two obviously speculation

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Oh wow, I haven't got far enough in Jojo's to see her but now that you've pointed Jolyne out the inspiration is incredibly clear. Seems the Jojos in Street Fighter never ends XD

Street Fighter friggin' LOVES basing fighters off of Jojo characters. So far we have:

-Guile (Rudol von Stroheim)
-Rose (Lisa Lisa)
-Urien & Gill (the Pillar Men)
-Juri (Jolyne Kujo)
-Vega (arguably Phantom Blood-era Dio Brando)

Additionally, Decapre has a taunt that references Mohammed Abdul's famous "Yes, I AM!" line and pose, and one of Hugo's alternate costumes vaguely resembles Tarkus from Phantom Blood.

 

[Vice]

Ooh! Interesting. Is that a rough guess ratio or is it based on new vs returning in previous installments?

A guess. Looking at SF4 they included a healthy amount of original characters in each iteration. I think outside of Ultra at least 1/5 of the new charcters in each update were entirely new.

Edit: forgot about Decapre. Every version had atleast 1:5 of the charater be completely new in the 4 series.

 

[kirblar]

I'd consider Poison "new" considering she was done from scratch in SFxT.

 

[Vice]

I'd consider Poison "new" considering she was done from scratch in SFxT.

I forgot about Decapre too.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I feel that we'll get a few more newcomers via DLC. We got newcomers via new editions in SFIV.

I really hope so.

 

[Dremark]

That's a good point. They could always give him a bunch of command normals but I wonder how that'd work in practice.

That's not a bad idea to deal with it. I think one way or another he'll get some sort of large change made, should be interesting.

Me too. I trust siliconera a lot, I'm just not 100% on them all being 'core' rather than some ending up as the first waves/drips of dlc.

I'm hoping they'd aim to try and at least alleviate the disparity rather than use past trends as an excuse for continuing to make the roster a man festival with token women added :/
Again, EXTRA annoying to me because both females were relegated to 'speed' type as usual. For the love of heck Capcom, stop piling all the female characters at the top of the graph XD

Yeah I suppose it is possible they could be DLC also. I am hoping they are in day 1. I really want to play Karin again.

As far as females in the series go there really aren't that many overall. Regardless of how they do the initial roster I think it's a fair expectation that most of them will be added during the course of the game's lifespan. It helps that most of them are at least reasonably popular too coming to that conclusion.

now with Gill and Urien, who was the more powerful of the 2? in terms of canon?

Gill by far.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

I think they will go with a quarter of the cast as female. I don't really think it needs to approach a 50/50 split. And they seem to be keen on quarters - quarter of the cast new characters, quarter of the cast returning from games other than 4, quarter of the new characters female, quarter of the cast female...

Edit: last two obviously speculation

Chun Li
Cammy
New Character
Karin or R Mika

 

[Vice]

I wonder if any of the initial new characters will be old. Like the 3 series got Oro, Alpha had gen, 4 got Gouken and 2 had Akuma. It would be fun to see an old female master.

 

[Noema]

He seems like a major design conundrum, sitting on extreme ends of the spectrum. He brings great despair to characters like Ryu, while himself despairing against Yun.

I think that part of the problem with SF4 Sim was that in a way, he was shoehorned into the game, along with characters like Claw, Blanka and Honda. A big part of SF4 early on was based around nostalgia and it's clear Capcom went out of their way to make sure the whole SF2 cast was in the game from day one, even if they didn't really fit within the new game's mechanical framework.

 

[biosnake20]

Chun
Cammy
Karin
R. Mika
Juri
One or possibly two new characters

mad females

 

[kirblar]

Dhalsim is already command-normal based - that doesn't affect him - he'll get his long-range ones anywhere, you have to intentionally use the command ones in close quarters.

 

[Dremark]

I think that part of the problem with SF4 Sim was that in a way, he was shoehorned into the game, along with characters like Claw, Blanka and Honda. A big part of SF4 early on was based around nostalgia and it's clear Capcom went out of their way to make sure the whole SF2 cast was in the game from day one, even if they didn't really fit within the new game's mechanical framework.

This game has very different design principles than 4, and the way you put that really drives it home to me. When it really comes down to it, maybe he won't make the game at all. I do not see him really working in this game as is and he would likely need a large rework to "fit" properly, at least how I'm looking at it having not been able to play SF5 at all yet.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Street Fighter friggin' LOVES basing fighters off of Jojo characters. So far we have:

-Guile (Rudol von Stroheim)
-Rose (Lisa Lisa)
-Urien & Gill (the Pillar Men)
-Juri (Jolyne Kujo)
-Vega (arguably Phantom Blood-era Dio Brando)

Additionally, Decapre has a taunt that references Mohammed Abdul's famous "Yes, I AM!" line and pose, and one of Hugo's alternate costumes vaguely resembles Tarkus from Phantom Blood.

When's my Joseph / Caesar reference character Capcom?

 

[Noema]

This game has very different design principles than 4, and the way you put that really drives it home to me. When it really comes down to it, maybe he won't make the game at all. I do not see him really working in this game as is and he would likely need a large rework to "fit" properly, at least how I'm looking at it having not been able to play SF5 at all yet.

Nostalgia doesn't seem to be a factor in SFV's design; if anything there's seems to be a bit of taking things that seem familiar and adding a twist to them going on, so hopefully that will make for characters that fit the game better.

I really like SF4, but it's a game where a lot of characters are designed around gimmicks. They'll beat characters against which they can abuse the gimmick; they'll lose against characters that can work around their gimmick. Dhalsim is a gimmick character in SF4 and I'd rather not see him in V unless Capcom can turn him into a real character (like ST Sim).

This is super cool to me. I've always seen Ryu as a character who, ideally, is never top tier but is always capable of winning tournaments in the hand of competent players. In other words, you are never gimping yourself by picking Ryu, but you'd better know what the hell you are doing. The ultimate no-gimmicks / no glaring weaknesses character.

 

[Geminosity]

Street Fighter friggin' LOVES basing fighters off of Jojo characters. So far we have:

-Guile (Rudol von Stroheim)
-Rose (Lisa Lisa)
-Urien & Gill (the Pillar Men)
-Juri (Jolyne Kujo)
-Vega (arguably Phantom Blood-era Dio Brando)

Additionally, Decapre has a taunt that references Mohammed Abdul's famous "Yes, I AM!" line and pose, and one of Hugo's alternate costumes vaguely resembles Tarkus from Phantom Blood.

Surprised you didn't include Necalli in the pillar men :3

A guess. Looking at SF4 they included a healthy amount of original characters in each iteration. I think outside of Ultra at least 1/5 of the new charcters in each update were entirely new.

Edit: forgot about Decapre. Every version had atleast 1:5 of the charater be completely new in the 4 series.

Hmm, so maybe 1 in 5 might be a reasonable expectation going forward then :3

Chun
Cammy
Karin
R. Mika
Juri
One or possibly two new characters

mad females

I don't know if I'd call that a 'mad' amount but I'd be happy with that selection just because it has 3 characters I know I want to play and possibily 1 or 2 more depending on the new ones. That's a huge amount compared to a lot of fighting rosters as far as I'm concerned

Yeah I suppose it is possible they could be DLC also. I am hoping they are in day 1. I really want to play Karin again.

As far as females in the series go there really aren't that many overall. Regardless of how they do the initial roster I think it's a fair expectation that most of them will be added during the course of the game's lifespan. It helps that most of them are at least reasonably popular too coming to that conclusion.

I hope there's at least 1 character I genuinely want in the core or I'm going to be somewhat at a loss.
I expect there to be at least enough females on the core roster for 1 heroine to be active in the inevitable anime while the rest are in hospital, being held/interogated, too injured to fight or playing a villain part It was funny to see Cammy take over hospital duties in the anime with Viper because that's usually Chun-li's role :3

I wonder if any of the initial new characters will be old. Like the 3 series got Oro, Alpha had gen, 4 got Gouken and 2 had Akuma. It would be fun to see an old female master.

Bison's master would work. I mean, he killed her, but in the world of streetfighter death is merely an inconvenience

 

[Village]

And I think they'll be an attempt to have more females in, especially over scrubs like Honda and Necro. I think only one new character will be a female.

I like necro

he looks super weird and I like it

 

[Karsticles]

Surprised you didn't include Necalli in the pillar men :3


Hmm, so maybe 1 in 5 might be a reasonable expectation going forward then :3


I don't know if I'd call that a 'mad' amount but I'd be happy with that selection just because it has 3 characters I know I want to play and possibily 1 or 2 more depending on the new ones. That's a huge amount compared to a lot of fighting rosters as far as I'm concerned


I hope there's at least 1 character I genuinely want in the core or I'm going to be somewhat at a loss.
I expect there to be at least enough females on the core roster for 1 heroine to be active in the inevitable anime while the rest are in hospital, being held/interogated, too injured to fight or playing a villain part It was funny to see Cammy take over hospital duties in the anime with Viper because that's usually Chun-li's role :3


Bison's master would work. I mean, he killed her, but in the world of streetfighter death is merely an inconvenience

Bison had a master?

Chun
Cammy
Karin
R. Mika
Juri
One or possibly two new characters

mad females

We know Laura is coming. 6 females is a decent number.