Keyser Soze
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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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SOOOOO
- I chose to let Chloe die, I found a non-violent solution to Frank after about half an hour of rewinds and at least two glitches (it was hard since I tried to shoot him and didn't have his money), I stopped Warren, and Victoria believed me, not that I suspect it will matter
- I should have seen the reveal coming when the announcement of the 'Everyday Heroes' winner, which I'd expected to cap off the series, occurred midway through the episode and didn't involve Max at all
- The ending kind of came out of nowhere, pacing-wise; I think it makes sense with what they're going for but because the Vortex Club bit is basically just walking around talking to people (and in my case very slowly while the sound glitches) and then the episode ends, it took me by surprise (though maybe that was the point)
- still, YOU SON OF A BITCH JEFFERSON. I am hoping that you are still just a pawn and Sean Prescott is the Big Bad, but damn dude what the fuck that's not cool
- the decision with Chloe at the beginning of this episode, damn, they actually went there. And it could be foreshadowing, too.
- on which note, hoo boy did this earn its M rating
- Things for the next episode: the photo with Warren will be important, I just made the bipolar/polarized connection in the title... can't wait.
Oh, and for whoever asked: if you invite Daniel to the party you find him there flirting/hanging out with Brooke. They agree to go to a museum together. basically Max further ruining Warren
- I chose to let Chloe die, I found a non-violent solution to Frank after about half an hour of rewinds and at least two glitches (it was hard since I tried to shoot him and didn't have his money), I stopped Warren, and Victoria believed me, not that I suspect it will matter
- I should have seen the reveal coming when the announcement of the 'Everyday Heroes' winner, which I'd expected to cap off the series, occurred midway through the episode and didn't involve Max at all
- The ending kind of came out of nowhere, pacing-wise; I think it makes sense with what they're going for but because the Vortex Club bit is basically just walking around talking to people (and in my case very slowly while the sound glitches) and then the episode ends, it took me by surprise (though maybe that was the point)
- still, YOU SON OF A BITCH JEFFERSON. I am hoping that you are still just a pawn and Sean Prescott is the Big Bad, but damn dude what the fuck that's not cool
- the decision with Chloe at the beginning of this episode, damn, they actually went there. And it could be foreshadowing, too.
- on which note, hoo boy did this earn its M rating
- Things for the next episode: the photo with Warren will be important, I just made the bipolar/polarized connection in the title... can't wait.
Oh, and for whoever asked: if you invite Daniel to the party you find him there flirting/hanging out with Brooke. They agree to go to a museum together. basically Max further ruining Warren
Littlefang
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I chose to go with Warren to the movies cause I felt bad that he got a black eye because of me.
I also wrote the CuTe message on his slate because I felt bad about that poster. I have no intention of actually dating him. I am the problem.Pandora012
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I chose to go with Warren to the movies cause I felt bad that he got a black eye because of me.
Damn, you're such a tease.
No escaping fate I guess.
fuck that guy in particular
Keyser Soze
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I just realized something after I replayed the last scenes.
After Max and Chloe leave the party, the to moons merge into one, or at least one disappears, which suggests realities merging, shifting, or jumping,
Jefferson might not be the real bad guy in reality prime... or something.
After Max and Chloe leave the party, the to moons merge into one, or at least one disappears, which suggests realities merging, shifting, or jumping,
Jefferson might not be the real bad guy in reality prime... or something.
When Nathan sent the text to Chloe (not anonymously, strangely enough), I was sure he meant he was going after Kate.
Of course, she's at the hospital, so there was no way he was gonna get close to her.
Then again, the Press-assholes do own most of the city...
Speaking of Kate, I'm guessing that if you don't save her in Episode 2, you have to find the room number of Nathan by yourself and you don't get the scene at the Hospital?
Of course, she's at the hospital, so there was no way he was gonna get close to her.
Then again, the Press-assholes do own most of the city...
Speaking of Kate, I'm guessing that if you don't save her in Episode 2, you have to find the room number of Nathan by yourself and you don't get the scene at the Hospital?
Pandora012
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So if Chloe and Max had Nathan's phone how did Jefferson text them with his phone?
I vote the moon disappears instead of merging. Also, I don't think Nathan and Jefferson are the only bad guys. Seems like there is atleast one other person responsible for what is happening.
I vote the moon disappears instead of merging. Also, I don't think Nathan and Jefferson are the only bad guys. Seems like there is atleast one other person responsible for what is happening.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Well Kate's dead for some people so I'm not sure how that would have worked.
I think Max and Chloe had Nathan's drug deal/anonymous harassment burner phone and not his actual everyday phone, because some of the messages he sent were from his (Nathan's) actual number then some were from the anonymous number, implying he had 2 phones.
Correct. (admittedly finding Nathan's room number is not exactly difficult)
The Dear Leader
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Warren beating Nathan was so hype.
Somehow I feel he's more aware of what's going on than he let's it look like.
I mean, who the hell gets dizzy drunk after half a beer? That photo he took with Chloe and Max is gonna be important.
Also, I can't help but think that wasn't Jefferson in the teaser of Episode 5. We know he's in on this, why hide his face during the whole teaser?
Somehow I feel he's more aware of what's going on than he let's it look like.
I mean, who the hell gets dizzy drunk after half a beer? That photo he took with Chloe and Max is gonna be important.
Also, I can't help but think that wasn't Jefferson in the teaser of Episode 5. We know he's in on this, why hide his face during the whole teaser?
That last text from "Nathan" showed his face on the phone. Earlier texts from him were anonymous. VERY easy to miss given the circumstances going on.
The 2nd moon disappearing to me meant that Chloe was supposed to be shot dead by Nathan, which allowed Max to have her powers activate. Now that everything's back to normal perhaps, I'm guessing in Episode 5 there will be NO Rewind Feature. You're going to have to do it all with no take backs, is my guess.
I didn't see it coming, but perhaps I should have looked at Frank's drug list closer, because it probably had Jefferson on it as much, if not moreso than Nathan.
I want Episode 5 right now so I can play it, but I am scared to death about what's going to happen.
The 2nd moon disappearing to me meant that Chloe was supposed to be shot dead by Nathan, which allowed Max to have her powers activate. Now that everything's back to normal perhaps, I'm guessing in Episode 5 there will be NO Rewind Feature. You're going to have to do it all with no take backs, is my guess.
I didn't see it coming, but perhaps I should have looked at Frank's drug list closer, because it probably had Jefferson on it as much, if not moreso than Nathan.
I want Episode 5 right now so I can play it, but I am scared to death about what's going to happen.
Pandora012
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Thanks that was bugging me for the longest.
but is Nathan related to Rachel's murder? I was and still is under the assumption he doesn't know especially judging from his reaction in ep3 when Max meet him at the diner with Rachel's clothes, he was genuinely happy when he thought she's Rachel, but obviously he's not innocent after this ep especially that Jefferson had been operating from the barn where he took Kate.
Actually I guess there's the possibility that Nate did work with Jefferson for Kate but Rachel could be a different case where he operated alone.
I also wonder who Jefferson was talking to on the phone in ep2.
Actually I guess there's the possibility that Nate did work with Jefferson for Kate but Rachel could be a different case where he operated alone.
I also wonder who Jefferson was talking to on the phone in ep2.
Littlefang
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I feel like the moon disappearing means that the reality we are currently in is ending since Chloe and most likely Max are/will be dead.
No escaping fate I guess.
...wow. I can't believe it.
wasn't he posing on one of the pictures in the dark room next to Rachel's body? (I think it was Rachel)
I still believe that Nathan is starting to realize that the whole thing is fucked up and that's why he's so unhinged
...son of a bitch... good catch.
I can't believe such subtle details like that I miss.
oh damn I somehow missed that, yeah now I remember them mentioning something about that, I'll go back and look later
Rockin' Ranger
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The phone they stole was his anonymous burner phone he used to buy drugs. <s>I think the emails from his father mentioned about contacting him using a burner phone.</s>
EDIT: Nevermind the last part, it was a note taped to the monitor of the computer in the bunker that was probably from Mr. Jefferson.
GavinUK86
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tiebreaker
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Can't say I'm surprised with the culprit. He has done nothing significant until now, but still keeps on being shown. He is probably a Prescott too.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm mistaken, but is Kate a junkie? On Frank's list, chihuahua is supposed to be Kate, right? She was mentioned on the list to have made several purchases.
Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm mistaken, but is Kate a junkie? On Frank's list, chihuahua is supposed to be Kate, right? She was mentioned on the list to have made several purchases.
I don't think Nathan sent anything. I think Jefferson sent it.
Here's what I think happened the night of the party (granted if things differ on other playthroughs, like if you get Jefferson kicked off the Everyday Heroes content, some or all of this might be wrong).
1) Jefferson and/or Nathan go to prepare the Dark Room for Victoria, who they are going to bring there after the party. Probably by Jefferson luring her into isolation after awarding her the winning entry for the photo contest, or by Nathan luring her away from everybody.
2) Jefferson and/or Nathan find the Dark Room compromised. Max and Chloe didn't exactly enter subtly (lock pulled off with engine), and they left the Mitt Romney style binders full of women collection out; specifically Rachel's stuff, and the empty Victoria folder. Pretty easy for Jefferson/Nathan 2+2 to put together there; whoever broke in knows about Rachel, knows Victoria is next. They however likely do not know exactly who broke in (Nathan would suspect Max/Chloe though I imagine).
3) Jefferson and/or Nathan figure Nathan's role in all this is compromised (letters to him all over the place, his jacket on the couch, photos of him there, etc). But nothing there suggests Jefferson has been compromised. Jefferson has been remarkably good at concealing his involvement. Though now I'm thinking that all of the artwork of Nathan's that creeps Max out, but sort of impresses her, is not Nathan's, but Jefferson's darker stuff and Max just appreciates his style reflexively.
4) At this point, Jefferson tells Nathan to go into hiding, or maybe even kills/imprisons him himself. He does this because Nathan is compromised, Rachel's body's location is compromised, meaning Nathan is a liability to Jefferson if caught. They need to find out who broke into the Dark Room and quick.
5) Jefferson and/or Nathan check where they buried Rachel and yep, sure enough, he's half dug up. Somebody knows too much to be allowed to live.
6) Jefferson goes to the party as planned to suss out who broke into the Dark Room, knowing whoever did will likely go there to warn Victoria. He sees Max talking to Victoria, or he figures it out when he talks to Max and Chloe and they seem extremely distracted and eager to leave. I can't remember if they also ask Jefferson if he's seen Nathan, but that would also be a dead giveaway.
7) Jefferson uses Nathan's phone (which as I said I suspect he has because he's killed/imprisoned Nathan, or told/forced Nathan to go into hiding) to lure Max and Chloe to the junkyard. This way if anything goes wrong as well and say, Max and Chloe arrive with cops, Jefferson has plausible deniability; twas Nathan who sent the message.
8) Kills Chloe, captures Max.
excellent deduction
Mighty Bison
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I just finished the episode. I presume the photo with Warren will have some significance? Also, fuck Jefferson, seriously. Chloe... :'(
AlphaDragoon
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Not my Max, she's going to the movies with him and wrote him an adorable note.
For me he totally earned a shot at winning his freckly hipster waifu's heart for the wrecking he put on Nathan, whether he succeeds or not.
OceanicAir
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I saw on reddit that if you go into Chloe and Rachel's hideout in the junkyard at night, you'll see that where you you see "Rachel was here", someone scribbled out the "was" and put "is". Additionally, if you put "Max was here" there will be extra graffiti saying something like "you'll be dead".
Keyser Soze
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Oh nice, i figured out how to grab gameplay gifs!
Keyser Soze
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That makes no sense...
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
The fact that this game can rack up a body count on par with Game of Thrones is staggering.
Littlefang
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I'm thinking Nathan wrote it probably because he feels torn up about it in his own mentally disturbed way.
OceanicAir
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I associated the "you're all gonna die" with Max and Chloe and the "Rachel is here" with the fact she is buried there.
bobby2times
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No escaping fate I guess.
Thats a pickup truck, not a SUV.
Keyser Soze
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The game calls that vehicle a SUV though - so there is a connection, even if the actial name of the vehicle is incorrect.
So in addition to Mr. Jefferson saying at the start of the game that he could "frame you all in a dark room..", I think when you first go outside one of the girls you talk to (Stella?) says that Rachel was sleeping with Mr. Jefferson. So there's that.
Does Warren always take a picture with Max regardless of if they're "going Ape?" Because I think Max can use that picture to fix this shit.
Does Warren always take a picture with Max regardless of if they're "going Ape?" Because I think Max can use that picture to fix this shit.
Keyser Soze
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Max also has her selfie from the very start of Episode One - so I guess she could go all theway back,there and wreck him before anything happened.
And maybe Rachel Amber was only killed this week, so she could still be saved with a rewind all the way back to Monday.
OceanicAir
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Don't forget the fact that the homeless lady said that Rachel hung out with an older person that wasn't Frank.
Not that I can tell, since I rejected his movie request. But did Max ever get the photo from Warren in the first place?
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Unless I'm misunderstanding your answer....
I rejected him and the picture happened, but I have a feeling we'll need to get away from Jefferson (maybe with David's help if he comes back and sees the map on Chloe's computer?) before we can get to Warren.
Not sure what's going to go down if he got kicked out by Joyce, though. Maybe Joyce invites him back due to her not being able to get ahold of Max or Chloe?
AWizardDidIt
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Does it count if 80% of the time it's Chloe?
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
The game's gonna end with Chloe being miraculously revived only to be stabbed over and over again while someone yells "for the watch".
Oh you know, I think I figured out why Nathan was "texting" Max.
Jefferson decided Nathan was compromised and has him drugged up/bound and took his phone. That's why Nathan didn't show up to the party. Then he used the phone to bait Max and Chloe into the junkyard.
EDIT: Lol I see danm figured it out in much greater detail.
Jefferson decided Nathan was compromised and has him drugged up/bound and took his phone. That's why Nathan didn't show up to the party. Then he used the phone to bait Max and Chloe into the junkyard.
EDIT: Lol I see danm figured it out in much greater detail.
I actually felt the same.
Rewinded, saw the interrupt warren had nathan pull out the same threat shit and thought "nah, fuck this guy" and beat him up again.
NoPiece
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I feel like there was a double cultural misunderstanding. First, a pickup truck wouldn't be called a SUV. Second, someone like Nathan probably wouldn't be driving a truck. Given the class elements of the story, he would probably be in a Land Rover or Cayenne or Lexus.
I felt good that I stopped Warren in retrospect, both for his own sake (emotional and legal/criminal implications for Warren) and because now I feel though as Nathan is still a monster, he is far more of a pawn than I thought.