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[tomtom94]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.

Also, am i nutty or did Jefferson reach the junkyard super quickly?

Not nutty at all - if you listen as you leave the party you can still hear him speaking, I'm told.

This is one of the reasons why people have theorised he has rewind powers like Max.

 

[The Smoking Bun]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.[/url]



Not nutty at all - if you listen as you leave the party you can still hear him speaking, I'm told.

This is one of the reasons why people have theorised he has rewind powers like Max.

Damn! David has the potential to be a good dad in the sense that he would impart strong values into his children.
Problem is that he lacks empathy or the ability to feel. On the flip side Chloe is way too aggressive and violent and not many would take her nonsense.

 

[Gbraga]

Or turn things around and be a normal person trying to catch a body hopper.

That would be kind of amazing, actually.

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

 

[Chariot]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.

Oh god, David. What did I do, WHAT DID I DO TO YOU. Seriously, not standing up for him is the only regret I have with my choices so far

 

[Jachaos]

He probably also knows that shit goes wrong once folk disappear into the dead of night in that town.

Also, am i nutty or did Jefferson reach the junkyard super quickly?

Maybe, I just felt "into the dark" was a slight hint. He is the head of security and thus could have checked the principal's office for the "Rachel in the dark room" drawing (by the way something's fishy with all this stuff and the principal's computer. I think the principal talking to Jefferson during the montage at the end of episode 2 and the e-mails he sends out that we read spell out pretty clearly that he knows a lot more than he's let on. At least Samuel makes it obvious he knows some stuff. He even made me feel like he knew I had time-related powers.)

It would make sense that David only knows about the danger of the dark of the night in that town and not the dark room as in the literal meaning of the term "dark room" in photography or how Jefferson's dark room isn't actually dark for developing photos but also plays on the fact that it's actually bright yet has a dark twisted eerie vibe to it.

I think it just amounts to foreshadowing at this point.

 

[CoolCat]

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[A-V-B]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.



Not nutty at all - if you listen as you leave the party you can still hear him speaking, I'm told.

This is one of the reasons why people have theorised he has rewind powers like Max.

It would be a good canon reason for him knowing how to instantly deactivate her powers. But they may have just been a device for convenience.

 

[Corpekata]

I don't feel worse. Just because he ain't a child murderer doesn't mean he isn't an asshole that deserves spending some time in the dog house.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

It would be a good canon reason for him knowing how to instantly deactivate her powers. But they may have just been a device for convenience.

Rewinding seems to take a lot out of Max, so I think just the injection is a good enough reason for why she couldn't. If she could at that moment, it wouldn't have resulted in much anyways because I'm pretty sure Max's rewind doesn't physically affect herself, so she'd be falling unconscious soon after.

 

[A-V-B]

Rewinding seems to take a lot out of Max, so I think just the injection is a good enough reason for why she couldn't. If she could at that moment, it wouldn't have resulted in much anyways because I'm pretty sure Max's rewind doesn't physically affect herself, so she'd be falling unconscious soon after.

It physically affects her when they say it does.

But it wasn't like she spent the whole day rewinding. In fact she made it a point not to. She should've been fresh up on rewind juice. So I doubt that was it.

 

[Corpekata]

Might be a tad offtopic, but can any US-GAFfers pinpoint roughly where in the US the game is supposed to takes place? Think Oregon was mentioned, but I've been scrubbing trough the Oregon coast for an hour on Google Maps (with LiS Soundtrack in the background, god tier) but can't seem to find something as quaint as Arcadia Bay anywhere!

It's not supposed to be anything specific. It's a pastiche, like Twin Peaks, meant to evoke Everytown, USA (though coastal ones in this case). But I think the biggest influence is supposed to be Newport, Oregon.

 

[red720]

I'm thinking Nathan messed up the dosage on Rachel too, hence her being the only one we know woke up.



The Prescotts basically own the town. Without concrete evidence Nathan would have been free and we wouldn't have discovered Jefferson's rule in all this.



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You mean concrete evidence like a dead body and pictures found in a secret dungeon on Prescot property of the dead girl bound and being buried?

As I said earlier in this thread, I could go along with the choices offered in this game to that point, but when that much agency is stripped away from the player and you are prevented from doing the most obvious thing without any explanation. That level of stupidity in movies (for example throwing the map away in the Blair Witch Project) is enough for me to stop watching, in a game where I'm supposed to be playing as the character being stupid it's even worse/

 

[MarzipaNMOS]

You mean concrete evidence like a dead body and pictures found in a secret dungeon on Prescot property of the dead girl bound and being buried?

As I said earlier in this thread, I could go along with the choices offered in this game to that point, but when that much agency is stripped away from the player and you are prevented from doing the most obvious thing without any explanation. That level of stupidity in movies (for example throwing the map away in the Blair Witch Project) is enough for me to stop watching, in a game where I'm supposed to be playing as the character being stupid it's even worse/

until they found the body all they had was eerie stuff that could maybe get a police investigation going, but one that would be roadblocked endlessly by nathan's parents. once they found the body the cops aren't going to just believe everything they say and arrest nathan that same night... Is chloe (who is completely off the handle, depressed about rachel's death and teeming with rage towards nathan) supposed to just wait a few days while victoria potentially gets drugged/killed/whatever? that's out of chloe's character.

 

[John Kowalski]

Maybe, I just felt "into the dark" was a slight hint. He is the head of security and thus could have checked the principal's office for the "Rachel in the dark room" drawing (by the way something's fishy with all this stuff and the principal's computer. I think the principal talking to Jefferson during the montage at the end of episode 2 and the e-mails he sends out that we read spell out pretty clearly that he knows a lot more than he's let on. At least Samuel makes it obvious he knows some stuff. He even made me feel like he knew I had time-related powers.)

It would make sense that David only knows about the danger of the dark of the night in that town and not the dark room as in the literal meaning of the term "dark room" in photography or how Jefferson's dark room isn't actually dark for developing photos but also plays on the fact that it's actually bright yet has a dark twisted eerie vibe to it.

I think it just amounts to foreshadowing at this point.

You know, for a moment i thought it was a threat actually.

The metaphor of the dark room actually plays into the narrative in other cool ways. I mean, it isn't actually a dark room because he's just printing digital files and all, but he's also "developing" his victims in that space. Much like how he would use chemicals to bring film to life, so does he inject his victims with drugs to develop them into photographs.

BTW shooting and printing at the same time, in the same place? Dude knows the pleasures of life.

 

[N30RYU]

You mean concrete evidence like a dead body and pictures found in a secret dungeon on Prescot property of the dead girl bound and being buried?

As I said earlier in this thread, I could go along with the choices offered in this game to that point, but when that much agency is stripped away from the player and you are prevented from doing the most obvious thing without any explanation. That level of stupidity in movies (for example throwing the map away in the Blair Witch Project) is enough for me to stop watching, in a game where I'm supposed to be playing as the character being stupid it's even worse/

You only have Rachel body... you can't break into somebody property and use any prove found on it 'cause you may alter any evidence. Also the Prescot will have plenty of time to erase any evidence before the police get an order to find some... not telling also that they own the police...

So go to the police isn't the obvious route... asking Nathan and getting and recording a confession is unless you want him to go away with murder.

 

[KingBroly]

I feel like Dontnod have found their calling with this series. It feels like they know what players are going to do and exploit that in areas they don't.

They must enjoy watching us squirm.

I just wish they didn't want us to squirm for 3 months.

 

[Vylash]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.

son of a bitch, but how does Joyce know we broke into the school? i erased the phone message and nobody saw us

 

[Kiru]

son of a bitch, but how does Joyce know we broke into the school? i erased the phone message and nobody saw us

Police did still send a letter. You can find it in the house (I think upstairs?).

 

[Jachaos]

until they found the body all they had was eerie stuff that could maybe get a police investigation going, but one that would be roadblocked endlessly by nathan's parents. once they found the body the cops aren't going to just believe everything they say and arrest nathan that same night... Is chloe (who is completely off the handle, depressed about rachel's death and teeming with rage towards nathan) supposed to just wait a few days while victoria potentially gets drugged/killed/whatever? that's out of chloe's character.

There's also the fact that Max is not a blank slate type of silent protag and she has a personality, just like Chloe. We make choices and ultimately define the path she follows, but she has to actually consider an action before choosing it. Everytime we make a choice it's something that Max would debate. When we have gone through with one, she thinks "maybe I should go back and...". In that sense, the agency of the player follows logical patterns.

Now, as to why Max didn't face an inner dilemna about going to the police is up in the air, but she apparently didn't and we didn't get to make that choice. I don't think it's so much a trust issue (though it is a factor) as her not wanting to confront Chloe after what she'd seen her go through and/or being under the adrenaline and rage of finding the Dark Room and the body and not thinking through. There's also the fact she hadn't faced interference/consequences when checking out the dark room, the body, Nathan's dorm, etc. and might've [Edit: Overestimated her safety]. Whether that makes sense or not is up to you but in my case I can still enjoy the game considering all this.

 

[Musolf815]

I feel like Dontnod have found their calling with this series. It feels like they know what players are going to do and exploit that in areas they don't.

They must enjoy watching us squirm.

I just wish they didn't want us to squirm for 3 months.

I agree, I hope their next project is the same genre/style (are they still doing the vampire game?), a Life is Strange Season 2 would be immediate hype for me even with a new cast/setting.

 

[Vylash]

Police did still send a letter. You can find it in the house (I think upstairs?).

okay that's just playing dirty

and now that i think about it, if we have Nathan's phone, how did he text us at the end?

 

[Lesath]

okay that's just playing dirty

and now that i think about it, if we have Nathan's phone, how did he text us at the end?

You took his burner for los drugos, but he still has his actual phone.

 

[Dreez]

I stood up for David cuz Chloe was being a brat after I let her take the school's money. She was getting on my nerves lol

Edit: it's ironic that in the alternate reality Chloe couldn't go to Blackwell because they couldn't fund disability modifications, which is what happens in current reality if you steal the $$$... are those linked or coincidence?

 

[KazenY2J]

This might be a wild theory, but does anyone think Warren might have been dosed in that scene before entering the party?

 

[zer0blivion]

I stood up for David cuz Chloe was being a brat after I let her take the school's money. She was getting on my nerves lol

Edit: it's ironic that in the alternate reality Chloe couldn't go to Blackwell because they couldn't fund disability modifications, which is what happens in current reality if you steal the $$$... are those linked or coincidence?

I didn't take the money and I saw that letter too.

 

[KingBroly]

I stood up for David cuz Chloe was being a brat after I let her take the school's money. She was getting on my nerves lol

Edit: it's ironic that in the alternate reality Chloe couldn't go to Blackwell because they couldn't fund disability modifications, which is what happens in current reality if you steal the $$$... are those linked or coincidence?

There's a lot of that stuff in Episode 3/4, like Nathan's SUV having damage on the left-rear bumper and Chloe saying a guy in an SUV hit here.

 

[J Range]

Do we have any idea about when episode 5 will drop?

 

[Vylash]

This might be a wild theory, but does anyone think Warren might have been dosed in that scene before entering the party?

of course he was, he only had half of a drink but he was totally trashed, same thing that happened to Kate, he was probably dosed to keep him from causing any trouble

 

[John Kowalski]

Or maybe, ya know, he can't hold his liquor.

 

[Jachaos]

This might be a wild theory, but does anyone think Warren might have been dosed in that scene before entering the party?

A few of us think so. I myself haven't made my mind up on it yet. On one hand, maybe he was drugged, on the other hand, maybe he was just acting this way for a variety of possible reasons. Did he want to have an excuse to try and get closer to Max by then saying he was out of it? Or does he know more than he lets on? It might be possible he was keeping an eye on things himself. Warren comes into the class for just a few seconds at the end of Episode 2 while Nathan and Jefferson are there. He also comes in at just the right time in Episode 4 when Nathan comes back and is seen for the last time. Coincidentally, Jefferson was there hanging around the male dorm right before we go snoop into Nathan's room. Then he's there at the Vortex Club party where Jefferson and Nathan are supposed to be. I think he's keeping an eye on those two to be able to swoop in. Or maybe just on Nathan.

Also, he might just have very weak resistance to alcohol. Maybe Rachel had another drug that nullified the GHB somewhat, or was more resistant to it, maybe Frank played a role in all of that, maybe Nathan messed up the dosage like he might have for Kate (since she does remember some stuff apparently) and Chloe (who he brought to his room on his own, probably). All of the resistance to alcohol/drugs talk is kind of tough to judge. But some can resist to drugs in pretty incredible ways, so much that doctors say their systems are supposed to be failing but they don't even seem drowsy. They can take the dosage stuff in many different directions that would be equally not outlandish.

 

[Udder]

Just to make everyone who got David kicked out feel worse, apparently Dontnod anticipated everyone would erase the phone message... because if you don't, David protects Chloe from the police.

We'll damn :/ I always knew he might be a good guy deep down.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Tag

 

[Vazra]

I wonder if the owl in the barn and the owl flying across the screen at the end of episode 4 means anything.

Prescott Spirit Animal?

 

[John Kowalski]

I wonder why they showed the fake moon disappearing.

Maybe they're implying that Jefferson has a double?

 

[JediLink]

But that wouldn't fix anything. Nathan and Jefferson would still be going around drugging, kidnapping and (sometimes) killing girls.

Cant see why they would do that.

If nothing else it might stop the apocalypse.

 

[Dreadnought]

Does Max's VA sound really different at some parts in E4 to anyone else?

 

[ArtHands]

I wonder why they showed the fake moon disappearing.

Maybe they're implying that Jefferson has a double?

death of chloe

 

[Jachaos]

Do we have any idea about when episode 5 will drop?

It's usually around 2 months, probably 2-3 in the case of the last episode to finish it off as best as they can. The events in the game take place in early October so we might want to watch out for that too.

 

[John Kowalski]

death of chloe

Why?

 

[Pandora012]

It's usually around 2 months, probably 2-3 in the case of the last episode to finish it off as best as they can. The events in the game take place in early October so we might want to watch out for that too.

I'm hoping it'll come out on MGS day. It would be like the other 2 episodes that came out during major releases. Of course this is wishful thinking.....

 

[ArtHands]

Why?

Because Chloe died soon after the fake moon 'died', and that it acts as a foreshadowing of Chloe's death.

Max represents the moon that didn't die.

 

[PaulloDEC]

I wonder why they showed the fake moon disappearing.

Maybe they're implying that Jefferson has a double?

I thought the two moons might imply two possible futures/outcomes. When Chloe and Max head out to the junkyard (and thus play into Jefferson's hands), the second moon disappears, representing one of the futures ceasing to be a possibility.

 

[J Range]

I'm hoping it'll come out on MGS day. It would be like the other 2 episodes that came out during major releases. Of course this is wishful thinking.....

I wish it was before mgs. Because once that comes out...I don't know if I can justify not playing it every time I turn on my ps4...

 

[statham]

two moons, one nice , one evil teacher, paths have been crossed.

 

[Third Strike]

Not sure if this was discussed already, but Stella was on Frank's client list. Looks like she is a heavy user. I wonder if this will come up at all in episode 5? I guess she uses for studying.

 

[BY2K]

What if David wanted the cameras in the school to better keep tabs on Jefferson? What if he knew it was Jefferson from the start but didn't have any concrete proof?

 

[chrominance]

What if David wanted the cameras in the school to better keep tabs on Jefferson? What if he knew it was Jefferson from the start but didn't have any concrete proof?

David was also recruited by the Prescotts to install cameras at their new housing development, so this seems unlikely. Also, you then get into some serious "security is nothing without liberty" issues.

Though on the other hand, I suppose you're already implicated, since you used David's all-seeing Big Brother GPS tracker eye to figure out where the dark room was.

 

[Jachaos]

Not sure if this was discussed already, but Stella was on Frank's client list. Looks like she is a heavy user. I wonder if this will come up at all in episode 5? I guess she uses for studying.

Stella was piled on a few pages earlier. I do agree she's a bit sketchy.

What if David wanted the cameras in the school to better keep tabs on Jefferson? What if he knew it was Jefferson from the start but didn't have any concrete proof?

And Nathan, and Principal Wells... makes sense.

 

[Corpekata]

What if David wanted the cameras in the school to better keep tabs on Jefferson? What if he knew it was Jefferson from the start but didn't have any concrete proof?

That doesn't fit with his character. He is a forceful, aggressive bulldog. If he suspected Jefferson strongly he would have been all over him and would have been all over his notes you keep going through. Just look how badly he handled Kate. This is not a guy with subtlety as a character trait.

I think people are seriously overestimating David now simply because he's not Captain Evil. If you look over his notes that you get and whatnot he seems fairly simple minded in his reasonings (see where he's reporting on Kate's behavior, and every time he writes Drugs?)

 

[Jachaos]

That doesn't fit with his character. He is a forceful, aggressive bulldog. If he suspected Jefferson strongly he would have been all over him and would have been all over his notes you keep going through. Just look how badly he handled Kate.

I think people are seriously overestimating David now simply because he's not Captain Evil. If you look over his notes that you get and whatnot he seems fairly simple minded in his reasonings (see where he's reporting on Kate's behavior, and every time he writes Drugs?)

He does follow Jefferson's coordinates though, so he suspects him in some manner. Plus, even if confronting is his style, he needs something to back up if he's to go up to Nathan/the Principal/Jefferson whereas Kate didn't have the same backing.