Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

tempest3 said:
I forgot to go back and save her in episode 3. I wonder if something special happens for saving her in every episode or if its just a running joke to keep saving her from getting hit all the time
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She has some extra dialogue option including a quote that may or may not be relevant foreshadowing. Haven't seen it discussed either. It's by Robert Frost.

"I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."

No idea what this refers to - finding the extra graffitis when going off-path in the junkyard at the end there of Ep. 4 there, or if it refers to the percentage of people that chose something, or if it's hinting at a reward for doing the extra most don't like helping her all five times (she does mention you helping her all the time reminds her of that quote, so...)
 
Opto said:
Telltale way would not give you an extra environment and would kill of Kate in ep 4
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Not in this type of story.

And besides, they essentially have killed Kate when it comes to the narrative. And they've killed Frank. Telltale might feed them to zombies in TWD, here they'll just be out of sight, out of mind here. They may text you, maybe even a phone call. If either of them have more than 5 minutes of screen time in episode 5 (outside of some sort of "travelled back before she attempted suicide" shenanigans) I'll eat my hat. Betting on closing montage inclusion at most.
 
Corpekata said:
Not really. You get one scene with her and some text messages. It was handled exactly like a Telltale game, where it doesn't matter much, is put out of the way for the most part, and just gets you a bit of character stuff.
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Can you provide some examples of how TellTale has handled it? I think this conversation is strictly comparative. The common beef with TellTale is that ultimately your decisions don't matter. But it's that the user sees it that way, is why it's important at all. Saving Kate feels like it mattered. You saved a life, got to visit her in the hospital, and she's much better because of it. Kate's overall importance to the story in the first place was her existing. You can't influence anything that happened to her before EP1 just like you can't keep Chloe from getting shot in EP4.

I love Kate too. Maybe that's more because Max loves her though. I never really paid her that much attention in EP1 either, so maybe it's that I really like seeing a depressed person turn it around. Or maybe happy people make me happy. Especially people that want to be happy.
 
Corpekata said:
Not in this type of story.

And besides, they essentially have killed Kate when it comes to the narrative. And they've killed Frank. Telltale might feed them to zombies in TWD, here they'll just be out of sight, out of mind here. They may text you, maybe even a phone call. If either of them have more than 5 minutes of screen time in episode 5 (outside of some sort of "travelled back before she attempted suicide" shenanigans) I'll eat my hat. Betting on closing montage inclusion at most.
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I feel like Telltale's games, ESPECIALLY in TWD Season 2, simply pull stuff out of thin air to simply do them. They just felt really forced and tiresome. Maybe it's the world, or them simply doing the same type of game over and over again, but it's become really obvious what Telltale does or would do in their games.

I feel like Telltale would've shown their hand a lot earlier with this story, and simply take the air out of it before they wound it down. Dontnod basically upped the ante with every episode so far.
 
coolasj19 said:
Can you provide some examples of how TellTale has handled it? I think this conversation is strictly comparative. The common beef with TellTale is that ultimately your decisions don't matter. But it's that the user sees it that way, is why it's important at all. Saving Kate feels like it mattered. You saved a life, got to visit her in the hospital, and she's much better because of it. Kate's overall importance to the story in the first place was her existing. You can't influence anything that happened to her before EP1 just like you can't keep Chloe from getting shot in EP4.

I love Kate too. Maybe that's more because Max loves her though. I never really paid her that much attention in EP1 either, so maybe it's that I really like seeing a depressed person turn it around. Or maybe happy people make me happy. Especially people that want to be happy.
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I agree. Saving Kate felt like it mattered. It didn't change the story, though it did give the game a more positive tone. Watching playthrough where Kate is dead everyone seems much angrier.
 
Corpekata said:
Not really. You get one scene with her and some text messages. It was handled exactly like a Telltale game, where it doesn't matter much, is put out of the way for the most part, and just gets you a bit of character stuff.
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There's been a lot of lines that change based off what happens through conversations with everyone. Visual stuff too(not just her grave, random stuff like Nathan's room having a cross taken from it, the slates all changing around it). I felt the impact of what happens with Kate much more personally.
 
Corpekata said:
Not really. You get one scene with her and some text messages. It was handled exactly like a Telltale game, where it doesn't matter much, is put out of the way for the most part, and just gets you a bit of character stuff.
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You just described exactly how it wasn't like a Telltale game. What's a single instance from Walking Dead S1 up to now where they created an entire unique scene (not variation based) with a unique location only visible to players who achieved something episodes prior that also wasn't based on a binary choice?
 
What does the Tobanga mean? Any ideas?

Just finished watching episode 4 and I have to say that Chloe's voice actress did an amazing job in the Rachel scene. I started tearing up, lol
 
Sorian said:
Jefferson's role at the party very much confused me btw. Like this is obviously a party rife with underage drinking and he's there to announce a school related award? What was going on there? This is like the shittiest teacher of all time, ignoring the fact that he drugs women, could be a rapist, and has killed at least two people.
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It's just poor writing. At least he doesn't have "friends from NASA".
 
I always laugh at the fact that Nathan's buried school file describes how he tried to steal the Tobanga from campus xD
 
Stella also mentions the rumor of Mr. Jefferson and Rachel sleeping together.

But I think they're definitely just rumors. It's pretty clear Rachel was in a committed relationship with Frank. Then again, she's filled with secrets.
 
Yeah, I also suspect that we won't be seeing most of the other students again - and that's great! Although the interactions with them are mostly interesting, they always cut the tension a little bit, so I'm ok with the probable closure they have with Max from the party (maybe excluding Victoria, she's probably more important than the others).

Another thing is, there was a scene in EP3 with Max and Jefferson that didn't make it into the final release. I thought they removed it because of time pressure, but now it looks like they might've wanted to keep Jefferson off the radar and instead divert our attention to Nathan. Being all defensive about meeting Victoria when Max calls him out on it and acting somewhat dickish throughout the conversation would certainly ring some alarms. He was already suspicious enough.

Xiraiya said:
I seriously cannot unsee Warren as Liam from Super Best Friends, it makes me laugh so much.
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He was trying to fight off the resemblance with his beard, but then realized it was futile anyway.
 
You Know Nothing said:
Stella also mentions the rumor of Mr. Jefferson and Rachel sleeping together.

But I think they're definitely just rumors. It's pretty clear Rachel was in a committed relationship with Frank. Then again, she's filled with secrets.
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There's a letter at the secret hideout from Rachel where she says she slept with an unnamed someone, so that rumor is probably true.
 
Saving Alyssa might be one of the best ongoing jokes in the game. Kinda wish her character was more fleshed out tho.
 
I haven't seen it mentioned enough. The investigation board was a brilliant puzzle. Actually felt like logical detective work. One of the most holistic puzzles I have ever seen in an adventure game.
 
Sulik2 said:
I haven't seen it mentioned enough. The investigation board was a brilliant puzzle. Actually felt like logical detective work. One of the most holistic puzzles I have ever seen in an adventure game.
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it was really well done. i felt smart. didn't like unlocking the phone part tho :P
 
Something just clicked in my head.

When we wear Rachel's clothes and talk to Nathan in the diner, he (like everybody else) thinks we are Rachel at first and then calls us Max Amber, which leads me to believe that, if Rachel is dead, he is not aware of it.

However, if he is teaming up with Jefferson, he should know she's dead.....unless she isn't. Either that or Kate was Nathan's first successful dosing (after failing with Chloe). Still, if he is on a team with Jefferson, he should have access to the files and he should've seen Rachel's photos....so why does he mistake us for Rachel? I think this is the first fact that makes me believe she may be alive, but it's all very intricate.

My head hurts xD
 
Bousf said:
Something just clicked in my head.

When we wear Rachel's clothes and talk to Nathan in the diner, he (like everybody else) thinks we are Rachel at first and then calls us Max Amber, which leads me to believe that, if Rachel is dead, he is not aware of it.

However, if he is teaming up with Jefferson, he should know she's dead.....unless she isn't. Either that or Kate was Nathan's first successful dosing (after failing with Chloe). Still, if he is on a team with Jefferson, he should have access to the files and he should've seen Rachel's photos....so why does he mistake us for Rachel? I think this is the first fact that makes me believe she may be alive, but it's all very intricate.

My head hurts xD
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Nathan takes drugs and is unstable doe.
 
tuxfool said:
Yeah. It requires you to know what a PUK does, as soon I saw it I knew what they wanted but that isn't the case with everybody.
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I don't know what that is and I've never owned a phone. I just approached it as a video game puzzle, and when space for a long digit code appeared I just saw the long digit number and put them together.
 
Bousf said:
Something just clicked in my head.

When we wear Rachel's clothes and talk to Nathan in the diner, he (like everybody else) thinks we are Rachel at first and then calls us Max Amber, which leads me to believe that, if Rachel is dead, he is not aware of it.

However, if he is teaming up with Jefferson, he should know she's dead.....unless she isn't. Either that or Kate was Nathan's first successful dosing (after failing with Chloe). Still, if he is on a team with Jefferson, he should have access to the files and he should've seen Rachel's photos....so why does he mistake us for Rachel? I think this is the first fact that makes me believe she may be alive, but it's all very intricate.

My head hurts xD
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Nathan has been working with Jefferson for awhile now. It's very possible that all of the girls they have taken pictures of, are still alive, at least to Nathan's knowledge. Something went wrong with Rachel, and she had to be killed (or the drugs given to her might have accidentally killed her). We also see Nathan knocked out in the same picture as Rachel, probably dosed by Jefferson, so he wouldn't know about the fate of Rachel. He probably took the picture of those two together, so if Jefferson's dungeon was ever discovered, everything would fall onto Nathan.

With that said, Nathan probably doesn't know about Rachel's death. Seems like most people were aware that she was trying to leave town. Maybe Nathan thinks she bailed after the night in the "dark room". Jefferson could have said the same to him, to reaffirm his thoughts. Though, I'm sure Nathan has his doubts too, and seeing Max in Rachel's clothes might have given him a second of hope that she was indeed alive.
 
Yes, I don't think killing is always part of the operation and something could be going on regarding Jefferson/Rachel. I'm still quite suspicious about Jefferson, I think he knows about Max's powers and the time altering thing.
 
Choomp said:
Yes, I don't think killing is always part of the operation and something could be going on regarding Jefferson/Rachel. I'm still quite suspicious about Jefferson, I think he knows about Max's powers and the time altering thing.
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My guess is that Jefferson captured and drugged her, then saw the pictures of her with Frank, which ruined the image of 'innocence'. But A) that would be cliched and B) I'm not sure where Nathan would come into things.

One thing I have noticed is that the dialogue everyone's pointing to as foreshadowing could actually be read as a double-bluff (thinking about the double meaning of 'frame'):

"Seriously though, I could frame any one of you in a dark corner and capture you in a moment of desperation. And anyone of you could do that to me. Isn't that too easy? Too obvious?"
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tuxfool said:
Yeah. It requires you to know what a PUK does, as soon I saw it I knew what they wanted but that isn't the case with everybody.
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I didn't even get there. I unlocked the phone simply by putting in Nathan's birthdate as a pin. Tried a few different combinations and boom.

Birthdates are often the codes to the phones of many so I figured it'd be similar in the game.

Plus they had to give us his student profile for some reason in that part of the investigation.
 
Jachaos said:
I didn't even get there. I unlocked the phone simply by putting in Nathan's birthdate as a pin. Tried a few different combinations and boom.
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Heh. Didn't know you could do that. Neat.

It is like the bunker door. You could try combinations of the worn numbers or you could check the red number scrawled on Nathan's notes.
 
tomtom94 said:
My guess is that Jefferson captured and drugged her, then saw the pictures of her with Frank, which ruined the image of 'innocence'. But A) that would be cliched and B) I'm not sure where Nathan would come into things.

One thing I have noticed is that the dialogue everyone's pointing to as foreshadowing could actually be read as a double-bluff (thinking about the double meaning of 'frame'):
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Confirmed for framing Nathan
 
tuxfool said:
Heh. Didn't know you could do that. Neat.

It is like the bunker door. You could try combinations of the worn numbers or you could check the red number scrawled on Nathan's notes.
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I hadn't realized the red number on Nathan's notes was the pass to the Dark Room. Figures that note was to be used for something but I didn't know what.
 
Jachaos said:
I hadn't realized the red number on Nathan's notes was the pass to the Dark Room. Figures that note was to be used for something but I didn't know what.
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I'd spent enough time fucking around with those numbers to unlock his phone that I had them engrained.

I wish I knew what a PUK was . . . that phone puzzle would have been much easier, but I kept rewinding time the instant I locked the phone so I never saw the long number entry-form
 
tuxfool said:
It is like the bunker door. You could try combinations of the worn numbers or you could check the red number scrawled on Nathan's notes.
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Why do I always forget you can look at everything in the Journal any time you want? *facepalm*

Fortunately since there's only 3 numbers that means only 6 permutations to try.
 
Jachaos said:
I didn't even get there. I unlocked the phone simply by putting in Nathan's birthdate as a pin. Tried a few different combinations and boom.
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I got a bit tripped up there because the 9 looked like a 5 to me. Wasn't until I clicked Read on the student record I saw his bday was 08/29.
 
AlphaStriker said:
Looking back, why did Mr. Jefferson reject Victoria's advances in episode 3? He clearly has a binder waiting for her.
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The rumors with Rachel already reflected bad on him. It's a bit suspicious if girls who hook up with him keep getting lost. In this case Vic's friends will be asked to her relation with him and they will truthfully say that she loved him, but was rejected. Killing a trail to him.
 
Third Strike said:
With that said, Nathan probably doesn't know about Rachel's death. Seems like most people were aware that she was trying to leave town. Maybe Nathan thinks she bailed after the night in the "dark room". Jefferson could have said the same to him, to reaffirm his thoughts. Though, I'm sure Nathan has his doubts too, and seeing Max in Rachel's clothes might have given him a second of hope that she was indeed alive.
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Maybe Nathan's spirit animal is a red herring. Since this is explicitly Nathan

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We're led to believe this is also his work

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But how could he have that animosity and then suddenly be elated when he thinks she's actually alive
 
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