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Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
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People are intentionally voting up people they want to see back- Capcom will have other market research data they use in addition to this.
DryEyeRelief
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Biased is the wrong word but try to understand context at least.
I think Karin has a good chance to come back, seeing how the first non-sf2 characters were Nash and Birdie, two guys who haven't been back since Alpha 3. The other two characters who haven't been back since Alpha 3 are...Karin and R. Mika (well, there are people like Ingrid from the portable releases but come on). If Capcom wants to mix popular characters with people who haven't been back in a long time, Karin is a good option. That said, Nash and Birdie are from Alpha 1, dunno if Ono has any reason to prefer people from the first two Alphas as opposed to Alpha 3. The only person brought from Alpha 3 is Cody, and the only remaining character to come back from Alpha 2 is Sodom. My guess is that Sodom has a good chance to come back...some years down the line as DLC.
That said, the truth is that a bunch of hardcore fans wanting her to come back is veeery different from her being more popular than Sakura. She is not.
That said, the truth is that a bunch of hardcore fans wanting her to come back is veeery different from her being more popular than Sakura. She is not.
Cyber Caesar
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You would think people would want a returning fresh face like Karin first. Sakura and Karin both could use an older appearance and redesign.
The Lone Dragon
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They didn't say that. The poll was conducted years before SF5 was announced. It was actually conducted before PS4 and Xbox1 were even announced.
"We are gathering feedback from consumers on their favorite Street Fighter characters. This data will be used to inform future product development, licensing and marketing activities around the Street Fighter brand. "
This means different things to different people. True, some people will vote for rare characters we haven't seen in a while. Many, many, MANY will vote for their mains (as evidenced by Ryu topping the list...a character already guaranteed to be in every SF game).
The fact that Q and Karin did so well, despite each only being playable in ONE canon SF game is amazing. So, yes, that is a strong case for Karin genuinely being more popular than Sakura at the moment. Sakura has way more exposure, yet Karin STILL got more votes.
DryEyeRelief
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Q? Yeah that doesn't mean anything
Both Yang and Fei have a command throw now. I doubt her command throw would be a 360 anymore.
I'd like to see them do something interesting with the rekka archetype. Angel from KoF is still tops blooby.
Troubled Bat
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Tizoc
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Karin's rekka's weren't straight forward though, afte rthe Initial QCF+P you can input any number of follow ups.
Tizoc
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Karin's V-Trigger in SF5 should be V-ISM :V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZCdukca-tE&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE&index=22
For whatever reason it's hardly in his movelist in many of the game's he's been in after SF3.
I'm guessing it's to keep him simple and straight forward? Was glad it was in SFxT and I think in UMvC3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZCdukca-tE&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE&index=22
For whatever reason it's hardly in his movelist in many of the game's he's been in after SF3.
I'm guessing it's to keep him simple and straight forward? Was glad it was in SFxT and I think in UMvC3?
Stone Ocean
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Because it doesn't really add much to his gameplay outside of combo heavy games, it just looks cool
As far as mainline SF goes it just overlaps with his tatsu
Karsticles
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Ryu had the donkey kick in UMvC3, or some variation of it. It caused a wall bounce.
Why does the combo counter reset in those Karin combos?
Stone Ocean
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It's a reset setup in case they don't air recover I think
direct_quote
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Put_SFA3_Guy_in_SF5..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkQFxH7ULPY&index=3&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy3v_6VXGZ8&index=4&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiHIspbqcvs&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE&index=18
Combo into bushin flip grab is always swag..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkQFxH7ULPY&index=3&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy3v_6VXGZ8&index=4&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiHIspbqcvs&list=PL8ABACD90D0F307BE&index=18
Combo into bushin flip grab is always swag..
IntelliHeath
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It was in TvC and Smash 4 as well.
I thought the ex version was pretty useful in SF3
OmegaSmash
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Donkey Kick even showed up in SFxT.
Yeah, I like it but not sure how it could be utilized. I still wish he had it and Ken had his CvS2/Sean's wheel kick. Every character should have a minimum of 4 special moves, except for maybe Guile.
sixteen-bit
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what's this from?
The Capcom UK Winner Stays On session linked here
some great matches in those vids
Capcom UK stream last week.
Shadoken
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The real hype , even on extremely blurry 90s potato cam lmao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZjI0MfBDA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P533Ea0Du_0
Shadoken
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Then why would Elena and Poison top so many poll pre-USF4 / SFxT . Then drop once they are added in games.
Q,Karin,Mika..etc are all bound to remain on the top until they are added to the game.
Character popularity changes all the time , Check out some of the pre-ssf4 polls and it will be vastly different than how things are now.
The Lone Dragon
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What polls? In terms of major, official worldwide polls conducted by Capcom themselves, there's really only been one that I'm aware of.
No please no. I want them on their school uniforms.
School uniforms can be alts. They're not students by this point in the timeline. I don't care if Capcom has given some nonsense about it being Sakura's gi or whatever.
wasn't Sakura wearing school uniform in SFIV?
Yes, and it was stupid.
But SF4 kind of mucked about with the timeline anyway with all the SF3 people being the ages they were in SF3 despite it being some number of years earlier.
Yes, but other than the sweep ender, were any of them functionally different? Honest question, since I've never put much time into Karin.
They all seemed like filler moves to me. Different inputs without practical gameplay use.
Well two of her enders are counters, one high and one low. Her standing kick ender would launch her opponents for juggles. Her up + kick was an overhead. You could change the timings for her elbows to fish for counter hits.
Another fun thing about Karin is that her Rekka enders were also special moves by themselves.
Cyber Caesar
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would appreciate any feedbacks if anyone would like to share with me. Character banner is still WIP. For now, I'm not happy with character banner because I felt that it look tacky or weird.
I already updated OP, and I'm planning to add more when I have more free time later on.
I already updated OP, and I'm planning to add more when I have more free time later on.
They actually look really good to me. What do you think looks weird about it?
IntelliHeath
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I felt that something with "Characters" font banner seem off. I'm not sure if it's just me being criticizing of my own work or gradient effect or/and paintbrush font seem odd.
Joudan could have been Ryu's alpha-counter/V-reversal instead of his punch thingy. Would have been a nice visual nod to SF3.
Speaking of additional special moves, has anyone figured out how to use Bison's punch specials effectively? I recall his Raging Storm (Psycho Inferno) being used for an unsafe block string/chip by JWong, and I've seen the EX Fireball (Psycho Blast) used a handful of times in total. Are they just combo enders and extremely-situational anti-airs?
EDIT: They function as combo fillers/linkers in V-Trigger mode, apparently.
I would appreciate any feedbacks if anyone would like to share with me. Character banner is still WIP. For now, I'm not happy with character banner because I felt that it look tacky or weird.
I already updated OP, and I'm planning to add more when I have more free time later on.
This looks amazing! Great job
I would appreciate any feedbacks if anyone would like to share with me. Character banner is still WIP. For now, I'm not happy with character banner because I felt that it look tacky or weird.
Maybe pan the image up a few pixels to crop out Nash's finger. Also the pose looks more dynamic with the upper arm in there. Though either way I think they both look good.
It's not bad or anything, it just looks like a generic version of the "Street Fighter" font, if that makes sense. Like it's almost there, but not quite, so when compared to that it looks off.
Because it's the one point in the combo where you're able to air tech. However you don't really have invincibility during air techs (unlike most games), so it's best to just not manually tech at all. Video was just demonstrating which part.
Try making it black with only the shadows.I would appreciate any feedbacks if anyone would like to share with me. Character banner is still WIP. For now, I'm not happy with character banner because I felt that it look tacky or weird.
I like that you are reusing Mahvel's font 
Since Capcom's fighting games resurrection, isn't SFIV the only fighting game where Ryu didn't have it? TvC, MvC, SFxT and Smash U all do have it!
Tizoc
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I'm guessing it is to keep him close to his most known ver. which is SF2.
Besides can't he juggle off his Tornado Kick and EX ver. of too? The way he's handled in SF5 likely makes his Stallion Kick unneeded I guess.
yurinka
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PSX is a very important event for Sony, and they'll have the Capcom Cup finals which obviously will be important for Capcom and SF fans.
So I'd bet they'll want to announce something there to really hype already existing SF fans. This fits better with a highly requested returning, popular character.
In the original official Capcom SF4 poll, Sakura barely beat out Elena to get into the game. Karin was a few spots below as well.
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