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Bernie Sanders Unveils Sweeping Policy Platform To Combat Racial Inequality
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Coffee Dog
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While this isn't a change from what Bernie has advocated for in the past, restating the information is good. The headline is what matters here.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah feels really good to see attention ramping up now rather than having to wait until the debate
Mammoth Jones
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Speeches are nice. But we have shit like THIS happening now.
50+ years of "Just elect this guy and he'll get things right we super promise" and things are still closer to the same than not.
If he doesn't win or doesn't have a real chance of winning he has to push whoever the nominee is actually get these policies done.
50+ years of "Just elect this guy and he'll get things right we super promise" and things are still closer to the same than not.
If he doesn't win or doesn't have a real chance of winning he has to push whoever the nominee is actually get these policies done.
Train of Midnight
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Let's just hope his page isn't too difficult for people to find. Glad his message is being consolidated.
Cow Mengde
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Right! Also, for people saying his ideas are too radical and won't get past congress even if he's elected; we don't expect or believe Bernie is some kind of magic bullet. We know Bernie can only do so much. We want Bernie as President so at least things can be set in motion to improve this country. He's not some savior from above. It also sends a message to the government and future presidents that people want radical ideas.
He really needs some security to stop them getting on stage, it just produces a big drama every time. These individuals don't deserve a louder voice than anyone else, they don't deserve to be seen as representatives of their movement over anyone else.
Coffee Dog
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BLM's goal was to be part of the PR campaign. It worked. How did they shoot their own feet?
cloudstrife
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This is a very exciting development.
We have our Olivia Pope.
We have our Olivia Pope.
Cow Mengde
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They're not stupid. They know they'll get shot if they did that in a Reublican rally.
It seems some are upset that their favorite candidate is being targeted when in all reality this is very much part of the political process. I'm honestly thankful black people are starting to voice their frustration. Bernie just happens to be the more accessible candidate. If doing this forces him and other candidates to take more public and stronger stances on this issue. Then it has worked imo.
Train of Midnight
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You mean like the first debate? He's been interviewed on TV regularly over the past decades.
Alligatorjandro
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But will these things happen in real life though.
Will any candidate be able to pass their agenda untouched? No.
I would rather start from the left and be forced to meet at the center as opposed to starting from the center and be forced to meet center right.
Coffee Dog
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We don't know. But that was the point of what BLM was doing; they want the same empty campaign promises all the other "big issues" get. They want these issues to be treated as equally deserving and equally a part of the national conversation. This win is enormous if Bernie's campaign can pressure other candidates with it.
People, largely, don't vote logically based on previous voting records or what the politician is capable of achieving. They typically have little information or research and vote on headlines and sound bites, and this is a hell of a fucking headline.
Everything on there seemed pretty reasonable to me, and I consider myself a more conservative liberal, if that makes any sense.
I don't agree with everything Bernie talks about and I wonder about the feasibility about some things, but most things he proposes are more reasonable than they potentially sound. Curious to see how his debates go.
I don't agree with everything Bernie talks about and I wonder about the feasibility about some things, but most things he proposes are more reasonable than they potentially sound. Curious to see how his debates go.
Dude Abides
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No. Bernie is still an extremely long-shot candidate and BLM is a marginal movement. For all the attention being given to this dust-up, in about 6 months nobody will be thinking or talking about either of them.
I sense a bet.
Sure. I'll be sure to bring up your quote to prove you wrong in 6 months. BLM isn't going anywhere.
This is what a lot of the Democrat supporters don't seem to get. When they support the centrist, the compromise is center-right legislation. You need a progressive just to compromise and get centrist policy. People seem to think that putting up a progressive means no compromise and nothing gets done. If you google for articles about Republicans being interviewed about what it's like to negotiate with Sanders, you'll find otherwise. Republicans in the Senate have expressed having a positive, constructive experience when negotiating with Sanders. McCain is on record saying Sanders is result-oriented.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Activism works!
Coffee Dog
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Only if Bernie's campaign seriously drops the ball. It's in their own best interest to have this remain part of the conversation now.
A lot of people would rather have a Republican president than someone they see as lying to pretend he represents change. The leftists I know consider liberals worse than conservatives.
Chie Satonaka
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Fantastic news.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I see this a lot, but what's the point? No Republican running this time is going to change or address racial justice. I don't imagine anyone who is a Republican is going to force the issue, either. Why not instead address the party with members who will be actual allies and forces for change? Why go for people who don't and will never care instead of putting pressure on people who do care to step up their support?
M0nochromatic
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I'm still pulling for him. I'll get behind HRC if she gets the nom, but man I'd really like to see the progress Sanders could make if he made it.
Agree that he is a long-shot, but I would not say "extremely" long-shot, because that would more fitting to describe people like Lincoln Chafee or Jim Webb. Sanders is just a "long-shot."
As for the thinking and talking, I believe that 6 months from now we will indeed still be talking about race-specific policies. 6 months from now is when the primaries will be starting, and you can bet your ass that the country will be talking about who the minority vote is going to, and that, in turn brings on the talk about what we're seeing now.
Big Baybee
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Folks get more from him every time it happens. Clinton will eventually get got if there is an opening.
I can't see how this will hurt him. Surely he can't lose momentum commenting on a hot button topic like this.
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I think this is what folks don't realize when spouting "Why come Bernie gets targeted?"
I think that the disproportionately low polling numbers among minorities for Bernie and disproportionately high polling numbers for Hillary are prompting Bernie supporters to ask for a deeper explanation on why Hillary is getting all this support even though she supported the policies that helped balloon up the problem.
"Hillary has better security!" doesn't explain all that. Maybe you think these are separate things, but maybe they aren't.
Why would they waste time on people who hate them and don't give a shit about their message?
Train of Midnight
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I can't see how it would hurt him. It can only help to strengthen his agenda, imo. (protests were still shitty, though)
Big Baybee
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If you don't follow politics closely, you have no idea who the fuck Bernie is. Hillary has been in the spotlight for almost 30 years. Give it time.
If nothing else, every minute spent talking about BLM is a minute NOT spent talking about some other issue.
Shouldn't that factor be an equal factor across all demographics? Why is it that Bernie polls lower with minorities than white people?
I'm not picking on either of you but I mentioned this in another Bernie thread earlier today so I will also mention it here. The "all Republicans are evil racists" is wrong and stereotyping of the worst sort. Not only that, it's not productive or conducive to discussion.
Not all Republicans dis minorities and not all Democrats care about minorities. There are good and bad in each party.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming about the good stuff that Mr Sanders is doing...
Sure not all Republican voters are racists, but the candidates themselves are almost universally awful on this topic surely?
Are you suggesting that all the Republican candidates are racists and that BLM supporters, in fact, WOULD be shot if they showed up at a Republican rally? That's what I'm addressing.
Yo.
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Odd that this was even a thing considering it's hard to take time off from work of low paying job to vote. That's pretty pathetic this was occurring.
Hallelujah
Boom.
*snickers*
He's not accepted that certain people have a method of distorting reality. I've been in and seen videos of people agree with your premise but still stick to their conclusions.
Good luck.
Wow.
Fuck yeah!
Your move Hillary fake fans. You want a winner but you don't even like her expressed policies. What about this guy?
Train of Midnight
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I don't know why you went straight for murder, but would you argue that racial inequality isn't on the very bottom of the GOP's priorities?
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