Bernie Sanders Unveils Sweeping Policy Platform To Combat Racial Inequality
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Don't get hung up on internet trolls, you're going to drive yourself nuts.
Did you read what Cow Mengde wrote? I'll quote it for you: "They're not stupid. They know they'll get shot if they did that in a Reublican rally."
That's the part I was addressing.
Racial inequality should be on everyone's priority list. No arguments there.
Richard Nixon committed treason by sabotaging Vietnam peace talks. And once the Blacks got their equality laws passed he decided to get tough on "crime".
They're not all racists no, but they certainly don't give a shit about black people and the BLM message.
Now as far as this "There is good and bad in each party" nonsense. Do you honestly believe that the two parties are even remotely the same when it comes to race and racism?
Now I am not saying there isn't racism on the left, we saw plenty of that from Hilary supporters and most recently from some Sanders supports but it is nothing like what occurs on the right.
ArchedThunder
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Good read, man I hope Bernie's popularity continues to grow, the dude really deserves it.
Also I will admit that the BLM protests probably did some good for Bernie, it just made me mad when those things happened because Bernie getting the nomination isn't a sure thing, but hopefully being a little more vocal on these things will help grow his popularity.
Also I will admit that the BLM protests probably did some good for Bernie, it just made me mad when those things happened because Bernie getting the nomination isn't a sure thing, but hopefully being a little more vocal on these things will help grow his popularity.
Train of Midnight
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But you were quoting samn, no fair! lol
With the amount of guns at a GOP rally I don't know if that possibility is far from reality, but that's another topic.
My fault if I wasn't completely clear. I apologize. I had quoted that line in a previous response.
andthebeatgoeson
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This really is the wrong way to protest posts. I can't take you seriously now that you written that.
*grin*
I'm sure he and others like him will cry themselves to sleep tonight. Sanders' supporters have been handwaving BLM issues so hard it's like wind energy is the new hotness. Take a page from your leader and realize that support is earned, not taken for granted.
RPGCrazied
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Awesome, now everyone vote for Sanders for president!
Velcro Fly
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I'm so stubborn a person that people pushing me to do something I was likely going to do anyway would drive me nuts.
Good on him though. Knew he had it in him.
Next up Hillary
Good on him though. Knew he had it in him.
Next up Hillary
Interfectum
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Your contempt for Sanders' supporters aside, how do you think Bernie is doing?
So has Bernie earned your support?
Train of Midnight
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This is one of the many many reasons I could never be president, lol.
RPGCrazied
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Has he talked about gun control or how he plans or no plans on mass shootings thats been happening the past several years?
Honestly? He's improving.
It's tough to see a candidate you like - and I do like the guy - suffer the slings and arrows through ineptitude and outright incompetence. Whether that's on him or his staff, I don't know. What I do know is that he's taken more concrete steps in the last 48 hours to address the issues of a constituency that the Democrats cannot win without than he's done previously in this campaign, and that's real talk.
Now his supporters need to stop showing their asses and take a cue from the guy they're supposedly pulling for. There's a lot of damage to repair on that front if you want those votes.
See above. I've always liked the guy and want him to do better. This pressure will make him - and all Democrat candidates watching this and learning - stronger in the long run.
Interfectum
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I do think some his supporters should learn from what he's saying. The only way he will win this is through a united grass roots effort. In-fighting and division is going to kill his campaign and goes against everything he's trying to do.
Glad to see he's improving for you though. You've been pretty outspoken about him and it's interesting to see how he evolves over time and reacts / strengthens his message.
Jeevesmeister
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Personally I only vote for the candidate who has the best behaved followers online. With this said, I am forced to endorse Adolf Hitler for President.
The protesters weren't even BLM protestors, they were Sarah Palin loving weirdos who think the Democratic party and all the black people in them are the real racists.
The protesters weren't even BLM protestors, they were Sarah Palin loving weirdos who think the Democratic party and all the black people in them are the real racists.
Hit up Reddi- lol,never mind
Then explain NetRoots. Actually, don't bother. This isn't the thread for it. This is a celebration!
LOL.
Also, I want to add that unless Hillary is protested the same way that Bernie was, there's no telling how her supporters would react on twitter or elsewhere online, so it seems unfair for Bernie to lose support because of something that might also apply to other candidates for all we know.
Awesome. This is exactly what I said and hoped Bernie would do from the beginning.
Now I hope Hillary gets some fucking protests too. Not because my candidate got them and she didn't, but because she needs to be pressured to adopt this same sort of platform. This is a big issue, and we need to continue talking about it no matter who the nominee is.
Now I hope Hillary gets some fucking protests too. Not because my candidate got them and she didn't, but because she needs to be pressured to adopt this same sort of platform. This is a big issue, and we need to continue talking about it no matter who the nominee is.
Does bernie need to do "black voice"? Yea/Nay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkNSwibJQjk
I already know the answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkNSwibJQjk
No, it's completely fair. You want to base your support on hypotheticals, that's up to you. The real world does not work that way. Saying that "Candidate X's supporters may also be cheesedicks, given the opportunity!" is some gradeschool shit.
Agreed 100%. This isn't going away by a long shot.
I'd expect protests at Hilldawg venues, but she's a former First Lady and Secretary of State so the Secret Service won't play that.
I also believe that she's much better prepared and coming at it from a smarter angle than both O'Malley and Sanders. She'll look at their planks, cherry pick the best portions and rewrite for herself. I'm also certain that her operatives have already reached out to the black community, something the other candidates have been woefully behind in (although O'Malley stepped up quickly).
Jeevesmeister
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If racist shit got posted by bernie supporters, then it needs to be completely disavowed. We don't need to justify that by pointing to clinton supporters.
I had a pretty heated argument with bish in the last thread, in the end he was right and I was wrong. I let my emotions keep me from seeing the bigger picture.
I don't think it's anymore gradeschool than expecting someone to control how other people behave, who aren't part of his organization. The bottom line is that when you choose one candidate over another, you are making a comparison and saying one is better. If one is tested and the other is not tested, you can't logically claim one is better. If grade schoolers understand this, then adults have no excuse not to.
Right, I don't expect much disruption at her events, but we'll see.
And I guess my fear is that she cherry picks the most electable portions for herself rather than the most needed portions.
Holy shit, can someone explain to be why "Hillary supporters do it toooooooo!" is somehow a valid defense for the shit Bernie's supporters were doing? You think we're cool with them acting like racist assholes too?
I swear to god y'all aren't listening at all.
It's not a "defense." It's a matter of saying "Yeah, his supporters suck, but don't go voting for someone else just because of it."
Jeevesmeister
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There's 7 billion people in the world, 300 million in America, millions upon millions on the Internet. Neither I nor Bernie can personally drive a truck around and police the bad behavior of awful people spouting garbage online.
Every candidate has weird, cultish supporters. Bernie's in the news and is being heckled by Palin loving weirdos who believe absolute hogwash, of course its going to bring out the Bernie Defense Force, but you didn't need Obama4A3rdTermx420x to tell you that.
edit: really loving the total fiction writing taking place in this thread pretending like these hecklers don't believe the Democratic party is the Real Racists.
I think the same point can be made without pointing at Hillary. When you point at Hillary, it makes it seem like you are defending the crap supporters.
Distancing ourselves from any racist shit and pointing out that we can't control a vocal minority is probably a better idea and pointing out hillary44.com, I'm pretty sure black people didn't forget what was said about Obama.
If the politician is sympathetic to their cause, he will overlook any grievance he has about their approach in order to see the bigger picture of the social history that led up to what he was facing. That's what happens when you have a genuine caring politician. The question now, is whether the fake politician is going to keep getting more support from that demographic over the genuine one.
People wouldn't point at Hillary if she wasn't polling so well with minorities. If people express support for a candidate that has actually pushed for harmful policies, and then protest a different candidate that hasn't, then you can bet your ass that the supporters of the second candidate will feel like there's a double standard at play. And when you are being criticized for your faults, it's fair game as long as other people are proportionately criticized. Otherwise, you're being singled out. Having faults doesn't mean you have to be willing to let double standards go unchallenged.
My man.
But they were protesting the wrong way.
Oh for fuck's sake, I give up.
I really hate to contribute to this cycle, but this is all stuff he's said in the past. On multiple occasions. He's as "left" now as he's always been. Now he's just put it all in a newsletter. Not a bad outcome, of course.
Then don't, the second I realized that I would rather Bernie be our candidate over winning some internet argument, it was easier to see things more objectively.
The only last word I want to have is calling Bernie my president.
Every popular figure/group on the Internet has an ugly portion of their fanbase. The people posting racist shit in Bernie's name need to be repudiated but I don't know what else you want people to do. You can't police what people are posting on social media and linking it to someone else.
Hmm or perhaps his policy change came from civil discourse like outlined in this article
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Seems like a much more sensible way to affect change. I would definitely agree with protesting his rallies if this approach hadn't worked, but why not try this way first?
After plenty of people in this thread, including me, have already said that a lot of Bernie's supporters are reacting the wrong way, it's only fair you should be able to admit that we're not "defending" their actions.
Look who is leaving - All the black people!
Yeah uh about that site. I don't even think they really like Hillary anymore.
Why is trump all over that site? I really haven't followed hillary44 this election cycle. Did they really abandon Hilary over trump? Why?
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What was the point of starting this thread if it is just going to look like the last one? Look, I'm excited about Bernie too but it's okay to accept that some people can't be harried into liking him immediately.
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