I have an X230t that has a pen that's almost new that I would sell for cheap.Touchscreen with stylus. Battery is perfect. Same build as the X220, just a little newer.
I already have one that I use and I love it. It's my absolute favorite keyboard.
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I have an X230t that has a pen that's almost new that I would sell for cheap.Touchscreen with stylus. Battery is perfect. Same build as the X220, just a little newer.
I already have one that I use and I love it. It's my absolute favorite keyboard.
Psychological Intellect
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Not to hijack the thread but I'm also in the market for a new laptop
-needs to be able to run phtopshop and othe rimage editing software really well for digital art purposes
-mutitasking with multiple applications running
-good to great screen with good viewing angles, pretty important.
what do you guys suggest? budget is like 800 bucks.
Any body have an idea on what type of specs I should be aiming for?
-needs to be able to run phtopshop and othe rimage editing software really well for digital art purposes
-mutitasking with multiple applications running
-good to great screen with good viewing angles, pretty important.
what do you guys suggest? budget is like 800 bucks.
Any body have an idea on what type of specs I should be aiming for?
RevengeOfDoh
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Honestly, Lenovo is riding on the back of IBM's legacy of the ThinkPad. They're still really good, but not as good as they used to be. They were originally built like literal tanks and meant to last forever; not so much since Lenovo bought the branding.
Software wise, there is hardly any bloat. The ThinkPad software suite is an easy place to manage things like network connections, docking, power management, encryption, and some other things. It doesn't interfere with day-to-day operation and not intrusive at all. It's almost like stock Windows.
rokkerkory
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I have an X1 Carbon for work, has worked really well for me and is really thin and light.
RevengeOfDoh
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IPS is a must for you then.
B-B-Bomba!
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I have a Y580 thanks to the gaming laptop thread. It's a $1000 gaming laptop. I've always been very happy with it and it gives me a sense of it being 'serious' hardware.
It really all depends on your budget. Best build quality IMO is Apple and Dell XPS for PC side. Best keyboard is definitely Thinkpad line. Best for gaming on a budget is probably Gigabyte P series. I suggest you head over to notebookreview.com and post in the "What laptop should I buy?" forum. I've been over there for years now and if you fill out the questionaire someone will definitely give you the best choices for your needs.
AppleBlade
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I am a technology teacher in a well-funded technology magnet school. I get my hands on dozens of different machines from different manufacturers. Look at my desk right now:
I can confirm, MacBooks are consistently the best hardware. From the old white plastic MacBooks to the aluminum pro's to the Macbook Air's they are all excellent machines. Their trackpad's are on another level, their keyboards are always good, and the quality of their screen's put to shame many other manufacturers.
Lenovo is my favorite overall on the PC side, but some of the models are duds. The Thinkpad I posted is a solid model. That HP pictured (Envy 15) is a complete piece of trash (horrible trackpad, cheap plastics, dim washed out screen). The funny thing is that the HP has the best spec's (Core i7, 8GB Ram, Nvidia GPU with 2GB Ram) and I hate the damn thing and never use it. Using that next to the much older and lower specced MacBooks illustrates perfect why Apple has it right by prioritizing smart design and high quality materials over specs.
I can confirm, MacBooks are consistently the best hardware. From the old white plastic MacBooks to the aluminum pro's to the Macbook Air's they are all excellent machines. Their trackpad's are on another level, their keyboards are always good, and the quality of their screen's put to shame many other manufacturers.
Lenovo is my favorite overall on the PC side, but some of the models are duds. The Thinkpad I posted is a solid model. That HP pictured (Envy 15) is a complete piece of trash (horrible trackpad, cheap plastics, dim washed out screen). The funny thing is that the HP has the best spec's (Core i7, 8GB Ram, Nvidia GPU with 2GB Ram) and I hate the damn thing and never use it. Using that next to the much older and lower specced MacBooks illustrates perfect why Apple has it right by prioritizing smart design and high quality materials over specs.
Same here. I just started using Blender because of work (and probably Maya tho I'm not sure yet) and at the time of rendering the project it brought my laptop to its knees.
I am a technology teacher in a well-funded technology magnet school. I get my hands on dozens of different machines from different manufacturers. Look at my desk right now:
I can confirm, MacBooks are consistently the best hardware. From the old white plastic MacBooks to the aluminum pro's to the Macbook Air's they are all excellent machines. Their trackpad's are on another level, their keyboards are always good, and the quality of their screen's put to shame many other manufacturers.
Lenovo is my favorite overall on the PC side, but some of the models are duds. The Thinkpad I posted is a solid model. That HP pictured (Envy 15) is a complete piece of trash (horrible trackpad, cheap plastics, dim washed out screen). The funny thing is that the HP has the best spec's (Core i7, 8GB Ram, Nvidia GPU with 2GB Ram) and I hate the damn thing and never use it. Using that next to the much older and lower specced MacBooks illustrates perfect why Apple has it right by prioritizing smart design and high quality materials over specs.
You can't be a technology teacher if you call a MacBook Air an "excellent" machine and prioritize look/feel over what's actually running your software. But I guess that's how marketing successes work.
Vipershark
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Lenovo's consumer-grade laptops are pretty much just as garbage as any other manufacturer's consumer-grade laptops but the ThinkPad line is still second-to-none.
It's unfortunately not as good as it used to be back in the IBM days but it seems that Lenovo is maybe starting to realize this and make them great again.
ThinkPads are the only laptops I'll ever buy from now on (excluding Apple's stuff but I'd rather have their desktops instead) unless there are some kinds of drastic changes and other manufacturers make something that can keep up.
Dell's business-class laptops are apparently pretty good as well but I admittedly don't have as much hands-on experience with them so I can't really say.
It's unfortunately not as good as it used to be back in the IBM days but it seems that Lenovo is maybe starting to realize this and make them great again.
ThinkPads are the only laptops I'll ever buy from now on (excluding Apple's stuff but I'd rather have their desktops instead) unless there are some kinds of drastic changes and other manufacturers make something that can keep up.
Dell's business-class laptops are apparently pretty good as well but I admittedly don't have as much hands-on experience with them so I can't really say.
The clickpad really sucks. I have a 440s with the same part. It's really difficult to click without accidentally moving your cursor and easy to mix up left and right click when using the nub.
They went right back to physically separated buttons on the 450 series.
Wirecutter rates the Air as the best laptop for most people.
I don't think he is alone in his opinion...
Vipershark
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edit- What the heck? I hit edit, not quote.
XOMTOR
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I've always owned Thinkpads but that was before Lenovo. My wife has a Lenovo Thinkpad and while it has decent build quality, it's not up to the IBM models. Luckily the keyboard is still great and the trackpoint is still the best pointer on a laptop.
If I was in the market for a laptop today, I think I'd look at a Surface Pro. Pricy but they seem pretty sweet.
If I was in the market for a laptop today, I think I'd look at a Surface Pro. Pricy but they seem pretty sweet.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Will this suffice? http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/Laptops/hp-pavilion-15z-laptop-m7d88av-1
Seems like a good deal with decent specs.
Seems like a good deal with decent specs.
AppleBlade
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I teach (or have taught) Python Programming, Java Programming, Android App Development, Digital Video, Flash, 2D game development, Web Design, Sound Production, etc. I have tried using the Lenovo and HP pictured as my main machine but at the end of the day, they hurt my productivity. My main machine right now is a macbook air pictured here:
The sharper screen, better keyboard, better trackpad, and the more reliable OS make it the better machine imo.
Face it Tiger..
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I'd probably reccommend MSI at that price point.
If you had enough for a Sauger or ROG laptop I'd recommend that.
If you had enough for a Sauger or ROG laptop I'd recommend that.
all HP laptops I've had or used were absolute garbage within 6 months
We just imaged and desributed over 700 of them this month to teachers in the school district I work for. The touch pads are certified shit.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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My last one lasted two years. That was in '07 though, and in '09, the wifi thingie stopped working. Technically, it still works, but it's super-slow now. Still running dat Vista.
Earthanoid
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I have a Macbook Pro and Lenovo Carbon X1 for work. They're both pretty great, the Macbook build quality is a bit better but the difference is not that dramatic, the Lenovo still has good build quality but the aluminum shell of the Macbook feels more premium. The Lenovo keyboard is much, much better though, while the Macbook's touchpad is a bit better. I have the older X1 with the much maligned touchstrip, and I actually like it. It takes a bit of getting used to but once you adjust it's pretty handy.
At home my wife has a Lenovo Yoga. The Yoga build quality is just as good as the Macbook, it's a pretty great machine overall. It has a better keyboard than the Macbook but the Macbook's touchpad is still better.
If I had to pick between these three for personal use, I'd pick the Yoga.
At home my wife has a Lenovo Yoga. The Yoga build quality is just as good as the Macbook, it's a pretty great machine overall. It has a better keyboard than the Macbook but the Macbook's touchpad is still better.
If I had to pick between these three for personal use, I'd pick the Yoga.
Vigilant Walrus
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I would love a 15-inch Yoga with 6+ hours of battery that had 960m level graphics so you could game on it, and use it for heavy productivity.
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If someone wants to buy the best windows laptop under a grand, what do they buy?
blame space
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never buy anything that says dell on it
Sure if you like the lack of options, storage, hardware grunt and yet still high price tag it's awesome.
At least the highest end pros have some hardware grunt and decent capabilities despite the ridiculous price tag
Nastrodamous
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T450s with upgraded screen
Cereal KiIIer
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You were acting like the other posters opinion was one that was ridiculous to have when in reality a lot of people rate the MBA as an extremely good laptop and it is often one that is recommended by websites or people who review these things.
It is obviously not for you but you discounted the other posters opinions as if he was a Biology teacher trying to tell us that evolution was a bunch of bullshit.
The MBA has a lot of things going for it. It is extremely fast at things that most people do, extremely portable and has incredible battery life. Is it the best laptop for everyone? Obviously not, no one is going to recommend the Air if you want to do serious video editing. But for a great number of people it is a fantastic laptop.
Vipershark
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ThinkPad.
The Air is a fantastic laptop. Got one for my gf on her bday. I prefer it over my Pro and the POS XPS/Envy I've had before. The Apple hate is real.
In my experience you can't really get good laptops for < 1000. They'll always crap out within a few years. It could still be a valid decision to go this route, if you need one quick and don't have a lot of money, or like to update to the newest models quicker. Get the one that seems best specs for money and has a good trackpad. MSI is pretty good in this segment though they can run very hot. Lenovo is all around decent.
Vigilant Walrus
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The Alienware 13 starts at 999 - Has 5-6 hours battery, 960m level graphics, possible upgrades include a nice IPS touch screen 1440p. you can unscrew the bottom and use your own SSD and ram (cheaper than buying high priced ones from the manufacturers), and you get all the cool lighting effects and stuff. ( http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-13-r2/pd )
Lenovo laptops are great, but their support is absolutely abysmal. Like seriously fucking atrocious.
KurtSloane
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Have noticed a decline in quality in general, they are deployed within local government institutions and as IT support within that sector they have a very poor reputation.
Their business class laptops are still pretty damn good. We still push out the T, X, and W series.
At one point someone bought a bunch of SL series for our remote sales force. Absolute nightmare lol. It might not have been so bad for corporate employees who have it at their desk most of the day but these people carry it in a bag all over.
We were getting so much damage and screen replacements that they were abandoned after a year or so. I'm gonna guess they were cheaper but someone made a huge mistake. You get what you pay for sometimes. Probably didn't have the rollcage or any of the other protection in the good lines
At one point someone bought a bunch of SL series for our remote sales force. Absolute nightmare lol. It might not have been so bad for corporate employees who have it at their desk most of the day but these people carry it in a bag all over.
We were getting so much damage and screen replacements that they were abandoned after a year or so. I'm gonna guess they were cheaper but someone made a huge mistake. You get what you pay for sometimes. Probably didn't have the rollcage or any of the other protection in the good lines
flintstryker
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I have been using a y580 since 2012 and it's the best oc I have own
YuriLowell
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With lenovo baking root kits into the bios, no.
We exclusively use thinkpads at work for everything, and some of them are really great. I've got a W530 here and as a hater of laptops I'd buy something like this for myself. Only touchpad I've ever used and liked and it's a very solidly built system.
The T540 touchpad on the other hand is garbage and I've had some hardware issues with them so I dunno about those.
The T540 touchpad on the other hand is garbage and I've had some hardware issues with them so I dunno about those.
All I have is anecdotal evidence but I went from an Acer laptop to a Lenovo G710 and other than the size of the thing and the lack of graphics card (both my fault for a not researching how big the damn thing is and also being a tightwad and not wanting to pay an extra 70 quid) I have to say that it is a perfectly decent laptop and certainly better than my Acer thing.
gamechanger87
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Just look for a refurbished Thinkpad. Solid machines with a great keyboard. They are resilient yet pricey. Its why Lenovo maintains a stranglehold on corporations.
~Typed from by Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd Generation)
~Typed from by Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd Generation)
Butts-a-plenty
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Haha, what is this crap? Apple laptops are the absolute best, from build quality, to the track pad, to resale value, to service and reliability. That's probably why they're the only laptop brand not cratering its sales.
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