Although I love 60fps and this might sound terrible, I would love to see what the FM team would be capable of on XBO if they dropped to 30fps.
Forza Motorsport 6 has "wet weather, 3D puddles and night races" + more
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I think all xbox/forza fans have wondered what can be done at 30fps as driveclub has jumped to the head of the pack in terms of visuals. It seems people forget the difference it makes to developers having to get games to run smoothly at twice the fps.
Im sure a game by turn 10 or playground games would look pretty close to drive club if it was to make a track/point to point racing game at 30fps.
There is deginitely more grip than in Forza 5. I only played on Lime Rock but I love it so far. Slick presentation.
Graphicaly it's close to Forza 5 but now with 24 cars, more trackside detail, more and better particles and some other improvements here and there which is good for me as I think that Forza 5 is good looking game. I haven't seen rain and night yet though.
Graphicaly it's close to Forza 5 but now with 24 cars, more trackside detail, more and better particles and some other improvements here and there which is good for me as I think that Forza 5 is good looking game. I haven't seen rain and night yet though.
We are live streaming our impressions of the game's preview event where we played the beginning of the game (which we can show) and did a lot of free play (which we can't show sadly):
http://www.gamersyde.com/livestream_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/livestream_en.html
What are some dashed expectations?
MS should just release a new PGR, use the Forza engine, lock it at 30 and give all us all the graphical bells and whistles. Then go on a 3yr cycle with FM, FH, and PGR...
a guy can dream can't he...
Jamesways
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It's the FM.net forums, fans are never happy there. Every few weeks around the new release of a FM game I'm reminded why I never post there anymore.
BluePigGanon
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My thought - not a novel one - is that you have to sacrifice some visual detail and effects if you're going for a locked 60 fps and no tearing..
Ahh ok thanks
Really digging the driving so far. Feels really great. Need to jump in the Ferrari next to feel corners in performance vehicle
Also need to jump in pcars and compare how it feels but already in general I like this feeling better even if not as fully race immersed
Really impressed with the demo so far, and can definitely confirm that it's a Forza game. (What else do you expect 
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One major gripe though and I'm not sure whether it's an issue in the game too or just the demo: I'm racing with unbeatable drivatars and almost all of them seem to drive in the middle of the track constantly. They even miss apexes because of this, and it's especially noticeable at the Indy showcase event.
)One major gripe though and I'm not sure whether it's an issue in the game too or just the demo: I'm racing with unbeatable drivatars and almost all of them seem to drive in the middle of the track constantly. They even miss apexes because of this, and it's especially noticeable at the Indy showcase event.
Rain looks great - the spray adds a nice layer of realism. The cars do look a little 'stuck on' in the wet a Forza horizon 2 was the same in the wet or at night.
The Indy event seemed too fast. By the end of the seven laps I'd lapped half the field, and you just overtake too fast to get any feel of drafting and pushing for a pass. I did have drivatars only average though.
The demo was fun but it isn't grabbing me particularly over and above F5 which I still haven't completed, so I think I may skip this one. Rain isn't something I find particularly fun to race in (although it looks great), so as a feature it isn't a reason to buy for me. Also the 'mods' feel a bit odd. Hopefully they'll only ever be buy able with in-game credits, not real money..
The Indy event seemed too fast. By the end of the seven laps I'd lapped half the field, and you just overtake too fast to get any feel of drafting and pushing for a pass. I did have drivatars only average though.
The demo was fun but it isn't grabbing me particularly over and above F5 which I still haven't completed, so I think I may skip this one. Rain isn't something I find particularly fun to race in (although it looks great), so as a feature it isn't a reason to buy for me. Also the 'mods' feel a bit odd. Hopefully they'll only ever be buy able with in-game credits, not real money..
Fox Mulder
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I havent posted there much since forza 2. It was pretty neat interacting with artists and getting designs with the auction house at the time.
I've liked rain in other games as a fun change from the normal conditions. Just having the spray and loss of grip was neat, and games like F1 and pcars have pit strategy involved as well. The puddles are an amazing addition to the forza formula though and real hazard.
JackAubrey
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So I finished the career bits of the demo. I didn't realise there were hot lap options afterwards - a nice surprise. Especially as we get to drive the Ferrari 430 on the full version of Yas Marina.
The Ferrari shows very well how the handling is different over the last game. There's a little bit more grip - but what feels even better is the progressive way one loses grip and then regains it - it's like you can feel there are tires under there, not just numbers in a computer.
The Ferrari shows very well how the handling is different over the last game. There's a little bit more grip - but what feels even better is the progressive way one loses grip and then regains it - it's like you can feel there are tires under there, not just numbers in a computer.
tearsintherain
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Anyone else unable to start Forza 5 or FH2 since the demo release? It just sits there forever (15 mins at least) spinning on the login screen after title splash, for both games. I assume its the server load from F6 demo, sucks I just wanna get in my daily login to try and move to tier 6 
can't get past title screen of F6 demo either, same problem.
can't get past title screen of F6 demo either, same problem.
Jesus, that place is fucking toxic. Most of the moderators there are complete bell-ends. It used to be a good place for FM info and chat, but it's just a holding pen for grizzle-faced thundercunts now.
Anyone else unable to start Forza 5 or FH2 since the demo release? It just sits there forever (15 mins at least) spinning on the login screen after title splash, for both games. I assume its the server load from F6 demo, sucks I just wanna get in my daily login to try and move to tier 6
can't get past title screen of F6 demo either, same problem.
Did you try restarting?
Koutsoubas
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Can we adjust the Force-Feedback? I have the TX 458 with T3PA Pedals and the Clutch. Whats the overall feeling?
NullPointer
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The only thing that would dash my expectations would be if the AA is no better than Forza 5.
Outside of night and rain I'm expecting the same basic game, just reorganized and with a lot more stuff (cars, tracks) across the board.
Foutrologue
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Super annoying that the rain on the windshield is apparently running at 60fps during time attack (just like the mirrors) but not during races... 😞
If by power-ups you mean mods then yes I have. They seem to be another way to make more credits. I had one that gave 30% more credits for doing the race in chase cam. It's totally optional and you buy more packs with in game credits.
paragonpro
Banned
The rain is kicking my ass, but like any new adjustment in forza, I'll learn. Presentation is top notch and the sound is incredible, the music is also ten thousand steps above forza 5, especially the track that played during the Indy race, it got me pumped.
Yep, sorry - mods. Couldn't think of the name. It's late..!
So do you think they'll help with replay value, trying different views, control types etc? A bit like Achievements can help with replay value? I'm interested to hear how people think they'll use them, and if they 'fit' with the ethos of a sim racing experience (whatever that is).
Excellent force feedback once I dropped the level to 70 as 100 was too much in my opinion with 540 rotation. It feels brilliant when you go over the rumble strips or the puddles.
Terbinator
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That fucking troll channel of water across the Sebring start/finish straight.
paragonpro
Banned
It can!
Microsoft/Turn 10 took a bad direction by messing with the forums. Half of the community from the previous FM games have left due to the restructuring of it. It was once a good place for discussion, but now, everything feels empty.
CrudeDiatribe
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This Demo was very generous, and really showcases the improvements T10 have made from FM5.
The handling is the big one for me. In FM5, It felt like you were driving on ice at times with anything RWD and little bit of power. FM6 - A lot more responsive and more grip (but not too much)
The rain racing is great and the puddles add another layer to the experience. Its freaking awesome!
I'm hoping we see more tracks get the night/rain treatment. I both think they're done so well that it would be a shame to see some tracks miss out. Apart from that, and the AA still being a bit shoddy - the rest is amazing. FM6 is going to be miles better than FM5 and I can't wait!
The handling is the big one for me. In FM5, It felt like you were driving on ice at times with anything RWD and little bit of power. FM6 - A lot more responsive and more grip (but not too much)
The rain racing is great and the puddles add another layer to the experience. Its freaking awesome!
I'm hoping we see more tracks get the night/rain treatment. I both think they're done so well that it would be a shame to see some tracks miss out. Apart from that, and the AA still being a bit shoddy - the rest is amazing. FM6 is going to be miles better than FM5 and I can't wait!
Wow, I enjoyed that way more than I thought I would. Did they improve the handling over F5? It feels way better to me. I can't explain it since I'm no car expert. Really liked what I just played though.
Btw, I drive with all assists turned off (behind the wheel view). Automatic transmission though, because fuck manual.
Btw, I drive with all assists turned off (behind the wheel view). Automatic transmission though, because fuck manual.
Shortt Sirket
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There are no F2P stuff. Everything can be bought with actual in game credits.
Or real money, right? The mod stuff feels straight out of a F2P game. So it's not pay to win, but it certainly feels ripped straight out of any popular F2P game.
Shortt Sirket
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Nope, just in game credits. And why would it? You can't use them in MP and they dirty your laps, why would they be bought with real money?
They explain all this in the demo btw. Which you played.
Isn't the mod stuff just like the upgrades you could get in Horizon 2 (that you know..didn't require you to pay anything)?
I think he means the underlying progression system, though. It seems with F2P mechanics being a widespread thing in F2P games, progression in regular, full-price games uses less and less imagination as time goes on.
Obviously I have no idea how progression works in FM6, but it would suck if the only form of levelling up is by form of "XP" or something. It frustrates me with Driveclub, but there's not all that much locked behind player levels. Hopefully there's not too much gated behind player levels in FM6 either... otherwise there'll be some serious grinding
And? There are no microtransactions, plus they're optional so if you don't like them, don't use them!