Lol. Now that you mention this is reminding me of a scene from Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I've haven't watched the film, but I think I saw a snowboarding scene from it, or something.
Halo 5 Opening Cinematic
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Lol. Now that you mention this is reminding me of a scene from Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I've haven't watched the film, but I think I saw a snowboarding scene from it, or something.
Hunters in the dark gives you a taste of their speed and strength and jumping ability.
They said that Uzse could have easily out ran all of the Spartan iv's he was with while carrying a human(vale I think) . Also I think the Cole protocol has a few feats.
NippleViking
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I thought Spartans were far and away faster than Elites, and your average spartan comparable in strength to a high-ranking Elite.
Munki
Member
Frankie did mention that this particular cutscene was not complete... Maybe the Blue Team portion was the part left out??? Seems that most if not all the pre release content has focused on Team Osiris for some reason. And I said this in other threads, but Im worried that Blue Team will not get the attention they deserve in this game. It has been a long time coming for a lot of people to finally see them in a game, so it would suck major balls if they were to be treated as secondary characters. For anybody who has read any of the fiction they know how badass Blue Team is, I hope this game finally portrays what true Halo fans have been waiting for.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Man, so many action games and movies has done the HALO aerial drop so many times, that it's become a cliche.
Also, what they've shown in this cutscene isn't indicative of the game at all. I hate scenes like this in games. It should be the player doing that stuff in the opening, not some non-interactive sequence.
Also, what they've shown in this cutscene isn't indicative of the game at all. I hate scenes like this in games. It should be the player doing that stuff in the opening, not some non-interactive sequence.
But it's been known for a while now, Locke and Osiris Team get the majority of the game time. Even the ratings description made it seem that it's primarily about Locke hunting down Chief whilst investigating the strange colony disappearances and Forerunner Guardians appearances. Sure it's always about Chief, but anyone expecting equal time, equal Blue Team time is in for a disappointment. From the shown Blue Team mission it seems as if Osiris Team missions take place long after Blue Team has gone AWOL, so maybe the missions will alternate back and forth every 2-3 Osiris missions with a Blue Team mission etc.
User 73706
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A mod already said in this or the other thread, I don't remember which. This is a thread to discuss Halo 5 no MCC, do not change the topic.
Can't remember exactly where I can quote this but I'm under the impression that sanhelios high gravity environment made them much stronger and their leg structures make it pretty easy to out run humans/ Spartans. Their eyes sight is also better than Spartans aparrently( hunters in the dark) and Uzse fought a Spartan that he previously maimed and kept pace.
AllIsOneIsNone
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I guess it's because I'm not nearly as invested in canon or accuracy as some people here, but I can't believe some people didn't like this shit. This isn't a slight toward any of you in particular and I'm enjoying the discussion, but I always thought gamers were pretty forgiving to a fault when it came to games telling a story. Cutscenes and story in games so rarely capture what I get from films yet people here go gaga for them. And yet, here I am, loving this opener and super pumped to see where this goes, and people just be hatin'.
Barring the Halo 4 intro, no Halo cutscene has captivated me like this one. Yes, I know it's nearly devoid of any depth, it's more or less an intro to the badassery of this new team of Spartans, but it was really riveting shit, just intensity in a bottle.
Barring the Halo 4 intro, no Halo cutscene has captivated me like this one. Yes, I know it's nearly devoid of any depth, it's more or less an intro to the badassery of this new team of Spartans, but it was really riveting shit, just intensity in a bottle.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Good, fuck 'em it's time we had the bullet sponge and weapon damage advantages
Also how about the opening intel comments from Lasky e.g. massive forerunner damage to 4 colonies?
Any thoughts on Didact or Jul continuing their campaign against humans? Another composer? Forerunners return to the galaxy? So many questions.
343 makes these super soliders, super soldiers... Just like they've been described to us since the beginning, and we're supposed to be upset about it...
PerezDeCorcho
Member
Nah, those were superheroes bro.
Nah those were Spartans.
No, those were superbros, solhero.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Hey, Frankie, as long as you're here and the IIs vs IVs thing is still being discussed... how is it that II in armor = IV in armor, even though II out of of armor crushes IV out of armor? Do the IVs just see larger gains from their armor? If so, why?
Could you help clarify my Spartan vs Elite comparison earlier. I feel like I've heard Elites were stronger/ faster than Spartans.
"Maybe sometimes people just like to praise a famous name"...
Of course Spartans are legendary, but expanded lore and canon has shown us it was, in essence, propaganda at times. Spartans, especially Spartan-II's are not invincible. I think 'Lone Wolf' in Reach shows the futility of it in reality. These are not superheroes. Even though Six was a Spartan-III, he fought the good fight as much as he could. But was overwhelmed. But can we really buy that 4 Spartan-IV, new recruits no less, can drop in with flying phantoms, wraiths on the ground, dozens and dozens of deadly enemies like full armored elites, jackals with snipers, even Covenant cruisers above and come out without breaking a sweat?
Don't get me wrong. Not hating the trailer at all. I think it's amazing and has me insanely pumped for the campaign.
I don't know, maybe this is just something bothering me since Halo 4, I liked the underdog narrative of Halo CE, 2, 3 and Reach. I don't like how the Infinity can traverse the galaxy at will blowing away other ships with nary a care, don't like humans being the galactic superpowers doing what they want at will.
Though I'm definitely over thinking it myself. It's just an amazing cinematic meant to introduce the team, their capabilities, show off the new things like thrust and ground pound, and get people ready for the level.
soulassssns
Banned
Lol @ "new recruits". also, we were not reading the books as if they were being told from a propaganda perspective.
Double post, but what is the default Spartan-IV armor now? Recruit? Why isn't MK VI Gen2 as good as whatever armor Spartan-IV get?
There was a conflict going on between two sides and the Spartans had air support. Actually break down what they did in the trailer it's not as insane as you think.
Uh yeah? Whereas Spartan-II were raised from childhood for war and have field service numbering in over a decade at least, Osiris Team, is new/newer recruits. Holly Tanaka was an engineer who enlisted and then signed up to join the Spartan-IV program, Olympia Vale was a diplomat on inter-species relations and has the least amount of active field service and became a Spartan-IV, Jameson Locke was an ONI agent, who, as we saw with Nightfall was more espionage and black ops, and Buck was an ODST.
So how are they not new recruits? Almost all only became Spartan within the past couple years. It's only been like 5-6 years since the war ended. Nightfall took place after the war and Locke wasn't a Spartan by then etc. Plus I think they haven't even been a team as long. I'm talking about their 'newness' in relation to others like Blue Team, Noble Team. I mean in reality, Spartan Thorne probably has longer field service no?
Vale was an ONI agent, Lock was an Elite tracker for ONI obviously trained to take on dangerous adversaries. You think ONI agents are just scrubs who don't know what their doing?
And you don't just get into the Spartan IV program if Tanaka wasn't ready she would not have made it. They are the best soldiers that the Marines have to offer.
soulassssns
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The_Decryptor
Neo Member
Unless he got a sneak critical.
That's ironically the problem with treating the game as the canonical story, the game play gets in the way of it.
Where did I say they didn't know what they're doing or that they're scrubs? Soul Assassins cherry picked two words out of my post with this own shitpost of 'LOL'. I implied new recruits meaning they're new at being Spartans which they are, and they're new at being a team. You're telling me they have enough active field service enough they can pull off those feats of smashing through wraiths, jumping aboard Pelicans and manhandling elites etc. I even said Locke and Buck have the most service later.
Seriously, I never even said half the stuff you're implying.
Super Stardust
Member
Aaaaaahhh too many games to play this year
soulassssns
Banned
How is my post a "shit post"? I disagree with what you posted. Sorry if I offended you somehow but you need to calm down. These characters are far from new recruits and you know very little about what they all have been thru leading up to the point in this video. So yes I got a good laughout of your new recruits remark.
Smh
Your calling them new recruits but they are all combat trained elite soliders. Buck has been on a team of Spartans before and they were extremely effective. We don't know how many missions they've been on or how many years they've been spartans. Locke had Nightfall armor training. Tanaka survived on a glassed planet. Calling them new recruits makes it seems like your calling them scrubs.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Most of what was shown in the cutscene is doable in the game.
Air ground and pound? Check
Changing direction mid air using thrusters? Check
Using thrusters to dodge or get a boost of speed? Check
Smashing through obstacles? Check
Performing a power slide? Check
Performing a clamber to get up onto and over objects? Check
I wonder sometimes if people are even paying attention.
You didn't offend me, but how is LOL @ 'new recruits' not a shitpost. Call me out, say why I'm wrong, otherwise it does nothing more than the smh you ended this post with. Do you always cherry pick words out of their context. I mean in my whole post is that all you got from it?
Okay they're far from new recruits. They are career military veterans. Now do you have anything to respond to my initial post about? We've known they're a new team that hasn't worked together long. And by the time of Nightfall that happened after the war Locke wasn't a Spartan yet. So at best I'm assuming they have only been Spartans for a short amount of time. I mean why even discuss anything. Let's just hardwave it away with 'you don't know what's going on yet'. It's not like I'm basing my views on the superman feats of the cinematic with my own past game play right.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
They aren't as heavily, or as controversially, enhanced as the Spartan IIs were to my understanding. Another thing is that Spartan IIs underwent a harsh style of indoctrination type training at a very young age to prepare them for war in ways that very few normal soldiers, even those that would go on to become Spartan IVs, ever were.
soulassssns
Banned
Out of context? You called them new recruits and meant exactly that. I laughed because that is what I thought your entire post deserved as a reply. Simple as that.
Oh and Nothing else to add that has not already been beaten to death already soooo...
Thanks for the entertaining chat.
Man here is a part of my entire quote. Now where does it seem like I called them scrubs? Okay you took offense with the new recruits line but in my mind they are new Spartans and they are a new team. I simply questioned the almost superman like aspect of the cinematic.
I mean even Starry Night had Chief sprint into the action but he just jumped into a fray with Brutes. This was a whole nother level. But I guess it's just artistic liberty to try and get people pumped (works) and to show off the new abilities and team (works).
The post went beyond just Osiris Team and I even talked about how I felt past Halo 4 about the overpowered nature of humanity. If that's all you think the post deserved, okay, tells me you're not a guy I'd want to discuss anything with going forward, especially if that's all you can focus on. You're welcome for entertaining you.
soulassssns
Banned
Have you read any of the extended fiction? Spartans have done mych more than what we see in this cinematic.
AgentOtaku
Member
You know, I've only read Fall of Reach and that was waaaay back in 2003
Maybe about time I fix that and start reading some more? Was thinking of starting with Halo: Cryptum. Good idea?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
That book is amazing it's a lot of lore on the Forerunners.
All i'm saying is that new recruits thing you said was stupid. And i took offense? lol. What do i care what you think. It isn't artistic liberty it's what they can actually can do. I explained their actions in another post and the strongest feat they had was flipping the Wraith. Break down each action and explain to me your problem with it so we can have a conversation over what you don't understand or don't know about.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Nah, go for Ghosts of Onyx if you like Fall of Reach. First Strike is also good. Cryptum is a slow read and lore heavy, the other two in the Cryptum triology pick up the pace and read better; primordium and silentium. I would only go Cryptum if you have the reading chops to go through that whole trilogy.
Poodlestrike
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Right, yes, that's why IIs beat IVs outside of the suits; what I'm curious about is, why do the IVs seem to get a larger proportional boost inside of them. Is there just an upper ceiling on performance, and the suit just does more lifting so as to bring the IVs up to it?
FunkyPajamas
Member
As others have said, go for the Nylund (Fall of Reach, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx in chronological order) if you want to read Spartan-focused military sci-fi stuff.
If you want a bit more lore-oriented "soft" sci-fi then go for the Forerunner trilogy. I recommend it for people that want to know more about the universe but I didn't really enjoy it as much as I did the Nylund books. That's not to say the trilogy is bad though, it's entertaining at least.
I've also enjoyed Halo: Evolutions; a collection of short stories in the Halo universe.
SmartWaffles
Member
My guess is the advancement of neural link technology means the armor does not need Spartan II level of neural and muscle system enhancements to operate, thus allowing a wider range of operators to wear them without injuring or killing themselves. You can clearly see the difference between the body shape of Osiris and Blue Team, the former is noticeably more slim and acrobatic due to less augmentation. I'd go further and say Osiris (and Spartan IVs) only received a baseline level of augmentation to meet the GEN2 armor's low physical requirement, out of the armor they are just a bunch of slightly beefed up normal humans, Chief probably can beat them with one hand tied to his back lol.
AgentOtaku
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Poodlestrike
Banned
Right, yes, but that doesn't explain the larger gains. Wouldn't any enhancements to the armor model translate over to the IIs armor?
SmartWaffles
Member
My guess is GEN2 and Mark VI have similar if not the same level of potential performance, it is just that GEN2 do not need highly specialized personnel to utilize them, thus explains why S4s despite being less augmented than S2s, can still perform similarly in combat, plus their manufacturing has been contracted to various military contractors, which means they are economically more viable and is mass produce-able.
justgames7604
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Spartans have always been like an army, we played it that way the entire time. Every halo game we kill thousands of covanent. Beaten invading armies nearly single handedly, solo destroyed battle crusiers and dropped from space with no injuries.
These Spartans have thrusters to slow their fall as we can see, and they drop onto softer snow along a mountain side on a slope which would cushion the fal even more. Spartans have indestructible bones.
I dont get how this isnt plausible.
These Spartans have thrusters to slow their fall as we can see, and they drop onto softer snow along a mountain side on a slope which would cushion the fal even more. Spartans have indestructible bones.
I dont get how this isnt plausible.