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Shitty feeling is back full force. She spent the last evening with the dude she went to the cinema with. Of course she said that nothing happened, but I'm not buying it. Very close to write "fuck you" and block her. It destroys me how quickly the new guy is there and how irrelevant I already am.


Shit is a terrible feeling :(.

I've tried moving on, this past weekend met a girl we hooked up and when I woke up, everything came back like a storm. I don't wanna be with anyone else, but at the same time I know my ex is doing all the things we loved and going to all the places we loved and sending someone else the messages she shows she cares to someone else. I just wish I was more heartless and could move on easier.
 
Shit is a terrible feeling :(.

I've tried moving on, this past weekend met a girl we hooked up and when I woke up, everything came back like a storm. I don't wanna be with anyone else, but at the same time I know my ex is doing all the things we loved and going to all the places we loved and sending someone else the messages she shows she cares to someone else. I just wish I was more heartless and could move on easier.

How long were you two together and when did she break up?

I'm going to party with a girl I've known for more than 6 years this friday. She was attracted to me back then and we write a lot with each other this week. Wouldn't be surprised if something would happen between us, but I also dread the feeling I will have the day after.

But still, deleting the number of my ex was the best thing I did all week.

I think you made a good decision, DKQ. A difficult decision but a good decision.
It helps me to set checkpoints. "go one week without calling her." Then get to the end and set another checkpoint.

I think you made the right choice. Let us know how things go.
It definitely is! It's a good feeling to not constantly check on her Whatsapp profile and overthink things (or write her).
 
After writing last night I woke up surprisingly clear headed. I pushed some reoccuring negative thoughts away as I tried those small meditation exercises a bit. Went to work for a bit at the university. I don't really need to be there as I am mostly done. I just enjoy the company of others bcause then I can fill my head with others instead of my own thoughts that might make me down.

Another thing I want to talk about is the way my head works and how I express myself in words or in text form. Often my friends need to explain my words/story to others because I either skip some relevant parts or just sound confusing. I don't realise I do this myself but I know it happens because many either misunderstand what I say or do not understand at all. As a result I take a long time to write emails or conference papers because I constantly re-edit the text to make sense. Any tips on that? This is not really depression related but it affects how people perceive me and I do not want to give the wrong impression.

I notice people here write about ex-girl/boyfriends and the anxiety they have after a break-up. Better to cut away the ties totally. I have good relationship now with my ex-wife but it was better for a time just not to interract. Healing takes some personal time that requires no activities, facebook, emails or anything. Worked for me but it took a hell of a long time. I tend to cling on strongly. However, I do think about my ex-girlfriend daily. It's been a year of that. But, i never contact because it's a waste of time no matter how much I still love her. If I did, I would break my heart again and would feel more depressed.
 
Welp, I've a accidentally poured some water on my laptop and now it's potato. I really need it because I have to write an important paper till the 14th and finish a commission. The only library with free access to the PCs and the internet is closed for a 2 weeks.
Fixing it costs money, buying new one costs money, everything costs money which I don't have. I feel so shitty about myself. Why am I so clumsy and useless. Why do I always depend so much on others. I probably have to call my mother and tell her about the thing, but she will start screaming at me. Or act dissapointed/passive-agressive. God, I just feel so bad. I'm on verge of crying and my usual anxiety chestaches has returned.
 
I went to a baseball game last night, and my team's been on fire. Of course, the night I went, they lost a close one and it wasn't as exciting as it could've been. They've been doing great and scoring tons of runs.

I was really anxious about them losing, and even though it's just a game it really got me down. It was the only game I'll likely get to this year, and my first in a while, so I was really hoping for the win. But the loss fucked with me, as did the anxiety before/during the game.

I think the friend I went with noticed it, but she's not a huge fan like myself.

My depression has been back the last couple of days, too. I'm fighting a cold and starting to feel like things are a slog again.

I'm also worried, because I started my application for disability this spring, got the medical forms in late June or early July, and gave them to my psychiatrist on the 28th of July. I'd filled out my part, the self-report, and then she said she'd do hers and send it in quickly.

My teeth are shitty and need fillings, and I've been wanting the benefits for that.

But I just got a letter from the disability organization, saying that they've yet to receive my papers and haven't been able to examine my claim as a result. I have until the 21st to get them in, but it's worrying. I was looking forward to hopefully getting on it by September, after the representative who interviewed me told me it was possible, but now that's definitely not looking likely.

I called the mental health clinic, left a message on Saturday and haven't heard back. They'd better not have lost my private info.

I hope everything ends up turning out okay for you, Chewie. It's awful feeling like everything is spiraling out of control all at once.

Songs like this put me in such a reflective state of consciousness. It gets me way more emotional than it should.

Thanks for posting this. I'm really, really enjoying this.
 
I've been thinking about what you guys told me and, certainly, I've given my exGF so much power over my life and my self-worth, to the point my self-perceived value is dependent of if I'm with her, what she thinks of me and what my future is (with her).

Before knowing her, I was in my peak: I really enjoyed life and that was part of why I decided to make a move on her. I was so happy and in such a good position that felt my life was good and I wanted to share that with her.

Through the time we were together, my happiness and my position began degrading with time, but since I was with the person I love, I was happy. No matter how bleak the situation was, because I was with her I managed to rebuild what was broken, recover from mistakes and always look at the bright side of the things.

At my worst time, it was when she changed me for someone else. Without her and in such a situation, I found myself with no "strength" to fight and I was toppled with everything that came at the same time. I can say that was the beginning of my depression.

My self-worth and value were dependent on her, as was my strength and confidence to fight and solve any problem that was in my way. Without her, I got depressed and powerless. Which is why her "promise" of returning with me once I get better gave me a boost.

Reflecting upon my life, I realize I rarely have done anything for my own gain, but for as many people as I can and that's because I want (or rather need) to look good in people's eyes.
I was bullied when I was young up to Middle School, and I know that affected me in the worst way. I tend to always try to gain people's favour, because I, probably unconsciously, don't want to be seen with bad eyes (something that always ended up in a beating when I was young) to the point I don't like bothering people, and that can be gone to the extremes of not saying anything about my discomfort or needs.

Which, of course, it's something I want to change and, to begin with it, I want to become confident on myself. I want to be "brave" enough to tell people about my discomfort and my needs and to find this value and motivation in myself and I want to find my value on myself and what I'm worth, not by the worth other people give me.

I'm kind of lost of where to begin, though...
 
I've been thinking about what you guys told me and, certainly, I've given my exGF so much power over my life and my self-worth, to the point my self-perceived value is dependent of if I'm with her, what she thinks of me and what my future is (with her).

Before knowing her, I was in my peak: I really enjoyed life and that was part of why I decided to make a move on her. I was so happy and in such a good position that felt my life was good and I wanted to share that with her.

Through the time we were together, my happiness and my position began degrading with time, but since I was with the person I love, I was happy. No matter how bleak the situation was, because I was with her I managed to rebuild what was broken, recover from mistakes and always look at the bright side of the things.

At my worst time, it was when she changed me for someone else. Without her and in such a situation, I found myself with no "strength" to fight and I was toppled with everything that came at the same time. I can say that was the beginning of my depression.

My self-worth and value were dependent on her, as was my strength and confidence to fight and solve any problem that was in my way. Without her, I got depressed and powerless. Which is why her "promise" of returning with me once I get better gave me a boost.

Reflecting upon my life, I realize I rarely have done anything for my own gain, but for as many people as I can and that's because I want (or rather need) to look good in people's eyes.
I was bullied when I was young up to Middle School, and I know that affected me in the worst way. I tend to always try to gain people's favour, because I, probably unconsciously, don't want to be seen with bad eyes (something that always ended up in a beating when I was young) to the point I don't like bothering people, and that can be gone to the extremes of not saying anything about my discomfort or needs.

Which, of course, it's something I want to change and, to begin with it, I want to become confident on myself. I want to be "brave" enough to tell people about my discomfort and my needs and to find this value and motivation in myself and I want to find my value on myself and what I'm worth, not by the worth other people give me.

I'm kind of lost of where to begin, though...

I don't have any answers for you but I think being aware of all of this is a good start. We can't begin to make changes in ourselves until we recognize there's a problem.
 
I just got a message from my best friend because of my ex girlfriend. She posted a new picture on instagram where she is in a car with another guy and they hold hands. The text: "I can’t tell you what it really is, I can only tell you what it feels like."

I have never had so much hate towards one person in my life. How can one person fuck me up so bad? How can she immediately jump to the next guy and forget about me? How can a sane person think that I would be totally fine with that? I feel like all the progress I made this week is just gone.
 
I just got a message from my best friend because of my ex girlfriend. She posted a new picture on instagram where she is in a car with another guy and they hold hands. The text: "I can’t tell you what it really is, I can only tell you what it feels like."

I have never had so much hate towards one person in my life. How can one person fuck me up so bad? How can she immediately jump to the next guy and forget about me? How can a sane person think that I would be totally fine with that? I feel like all the progress I made this week is just gone.
This might sound callous but if she's your ex, she doesn't owe you anything at this point. Cut ties for now, tell friends not to give you updates if it hurts this much.
 
I just got a message from my best friend because of my ex girlfriend. She posted a new picture on instagram where she is in a car with another guy and they hold hands. The text: "I can’t tell you what it really is, I can only tell you what it feels like."

I have never had so much hate towards one person in my life. How can one person fuck me up so bad? How can she immediately jump to the next guy and forget about me? How can a sane person think that I would be totally fine with that? I feel like all the progress I made this week is just gone.

Under no circumstances should you be getting updates about your ex. Tell your friends that the information just hurts you and impedes your recovery.
 
There is nothing in life that brings me any sort of sustained joy or happiness. I have no passion or inspiration, nor any dreams that I even want to pursue. All decisions I make are based entirely on economics and through carefully calculating the path of least resistance. I have manufactured a fake personality over the years, but it's not me, only a fake shell that I project when interacting with others, because there's nothing on the inside.

This is not a recent occurrence either. I have felt this way for as long as I can remember. It's possible that I may have been happy during my childhood, and while I can remember certain events clearly and vividly, I have no recollection of how I actually felt during those years. As far as I can remember emotionally, I have only ever known misery. I truly do believe that some people are simply defective and there's no helping them.

I've felt like this (and still kind of do) before I started therapy and meds. I would recommend it if that is an option. Do you read philosophy? I always thought it was about old men sharing mind-blowing thoughts but it's just a conversation, a long one. You say that nothing brings you but why then kill yourself? If nothing brings you joy, I don't see why would that make you prefer being dead over just living doing whatever you want. Why not just go and forage food or eat from the garbage or whatever you can find and sleep on the street? For me I knew that even if I did that the feeling of despair and hopelessness would still be there. What is bothering you?
 
Welp, I've a accidentally poured some water on my laptop and now it's potato. I really need it because I have to write an important paper till the 14th and finish a commission. The only library with free access to the PCs and the internet is closed for a 2 weeks.
Fixing it costs money, buying new one costs money, everything costs money which I don't have. I feel so shitty about myself. Why am I so clumsy and useless. Why do I always depend so much on others. I probably have to call my mother and tell her about the thing, but she will start screaming at me. Or act dissapointed/passive-agressive. God, I just feel so bad. I'm on verge of crying and my usual anxiety chestaches has returned.

One time my dog ran into my desk and spilled a cup of water all over my laptop's keyboard. The laptop's screen went crazy and I pulled the plug. I knew one should wait before it's dry to turn it on again but I had given up on it so I tried to turn it on and it didn't even turn on. I was mad at myself for even trying, maybe it was ok and I finally broke it. But I'm a cheap bastard and I didn't want to buy a new one. I opened the door thingy in the bottom part and put a fan blowing on it for 2 days. After I thought it was dry, I tried turning it on and it didn't, it was lifeless. Not even a single beep. It had become garbage.



Just kidding. It worked again (by miracle). I've been using since 2008 and I'm typing this on it right now.
 
Songs like this put me in such a reflective state of consciousness. It gets me way more emotional than it should.
Instrumental songs really get to me when I'm manic. I was listening to Elegia by New Order a lot over the weekend in anticipation of MGSV and it really hit me hard. It brought everything up, and to top it all off that same day I had learned that my ex who I thought I was over had finally moved onto someone new, and it just hurt so very much to see everyone else's world move forward instead of my own. As of the moment I'm posting and typing this, I'm all right in the mind, no mania or anything, but when I posted over the weekend I was in a really bad place.
I've noticed I'll usually only post in this thread when things are absolutely the worst and I have nowhere else to go.
 
... why in god's name are you a junior? WAS IT OUR HUG?
Haaaa......don't get drunk with gaffers by Times Square with a dying battery. That's all I gotta say.
Thanks for posting this. I'm really, really enjoying this.
I've loved most of the music I've heard by him. It's one of my favorite genres. Boards of Canada, Loscil, Aphex Twin, The Field, Orbital etc etc. Ambient electronic & trance is just so good.

Here's another I rediscovered today.
Instrumental songs really get to me when I'm manic. I was listening to Elegia by New Order a lot over the weekend in anticipation of MGSV and it really hit me hard. It brought everything up, and to top it all off that same day I had learned that my ex who I thought I was over had finally moved onto someone new, and it just hurt so very much to see everyone else's world move forward instead of my own.
I love Elegia. I first heard it when I saw "More", an incredible claymation short by Mark Osborne.

Sorry to hear that the ex brought up those feelings. I'm currently working on finding full-time work after overhauling my resume last month. It's a balance of optimism and feeling hopeless haha.
 
I hope everything ends up turning out okay for you, Chewie. It's awful feeling like everything is spiraling out of control all at once.



Thanks for posting this. I'm really, really enjoying this.

Thanks

My depression comes and goes in waves. I was okay for parts of the summer, but now it's back and bothering me again.
 
I'm feeling extremely lonely right now, and it's not only making me anxious, but it's also making me lose my concentration. In addition to being jobless and having my family pressuring me to do family activities that I don't want to participate in, I just want to crawl into a ball and die.
 
I'm feeling extremely lonely right now, and it's not only making me anxious, but it's also making me lose my concentration. In addition to being jobless and having my family pressuring me to do family activities that I don't want to participate in, I just want to crawl into a ball and die.

i feel you =(
 
I feel like a horrible person.

My Grandmother -- who's starting to lose it and has trouble breathing, but is on oxygen -- lives with us. She has for over a decade, and because we have similar personalities, we've regularly butted heads. Not in "I hate you!" and "I wish you were dead!" kind of ways, or physical altercations, just arguments over things.

She argues, I argue, and we argue with each other.

I hate myself afterwards, and want to try to stop, especially since I find that I get frustrated over her forgetfulness sometimes. And because she isn't able or willing to help me with things she used to. I'm not saying I ask her for help with lots of things, because I do not, but our job has been the dishes for several years now. These days, she says she feels dizzy (due to meds and a weak heart) or nauseated around supper time a lot, and then I have to do dishes alone.

The dishes add up here, so it can be a pretty long job, and I've got a lot of review work so I hate doing it alone. I shouldn't get mad at her over this, but it bugs me. I wish it didn't and I don't want it to.

I guess it's normal to feel frustrated when someone you love/have known all your life starts dealing with Alzheimer's and gets argumentative, but still...I feel bad.

I do a lot for her. I used to take her to appointments, but she'd argue with me and my Dad took over most, but I still do take her to some. I also get her water, fix her oxygen tubing, turn lights on and off for her and do other things. But sometimes she takes it too far.

I fell asleep at about 10 to 5 in the morning yesterday, and she'd decided to sleep on the couch in the other room because it was too hot upstairs. I'd gotten her her water, and had just passed out, when she called me and said she couldn't sleep and wanted her glasses for puzzles. Now, this is something she could've done herself, and I told her to/that I was sleeping, but she kept nagging me about it until I got up and went upstairs to get them.

That really frustrated me.

Then, she woke me up later saying she wasn't feeling well (she says this a lot, and it's too bad, but there's nothing I can do. I was in the house, so if anything bad happened, I could've assisted). She then wanted me to phone others to see if they'd come sit with her, and made me get up to do so when she could've just done it herself.

It's getting to the point where she's forgetting to take pills, arguing with us over things and generally becoming forgetful. She's also not moving much, and doesn't like to be left alone, so if my father is out I'm not able to leave or go visit my Mom. It's not fair to me given my age, but I babysit her a lot. Our extended family doesn't help much, and they sit on a high horse and complain about things we do wrong. They also seem to talk about me behind my back, and got up in arms when I said it's becoming too much/we need help.

We're likely going to have to put her in a home, but she'll complain about it and hate it, especially since most of them don't have AC.
 
oh well.

Im struggling with this, sometimes i just want to end it all, there is no much point in (my)life but then i remember things are not that bad and i still could climb out of the hellhole i been for almost 9 years, there are a few purposes i want to meet, someday to say i beat my depression, even if temporaly, get out of my house wich at this point i despise to live on a big city, get money for charity and help certain causes. and be myself, enjoy life again, not be that nervous, wrecked shell of a human being i became years ago.

but then im here struggling with even making simple decisions, living on the past, afraid of the future, failure,anxiety, loneliness, stress, etc, getting much better these last 4 months but recently lost all motivation to continue therapy, i dont trust my psychiatrist, but im afraid to go to a new one :/

And one of my methods to get money is with life insurance, what if i die "incorrectly"? what if they dont give the money? or if my sister grabs it for herself? or hell, if i dont have enough money to pay it someday? its even a good solution or im just foolish?
i know its weird, just trying to stay focused to not lose all progress.
 
One time my dog ran into my desk and spilled a cup of water all over my laptop's keyboard. The laptop's screen went crazy and I pulled the plug. I knew one should wait before it's dry to turn it on again but I had given up on it so I tried to turn it on and it didn't even turn on. I was mad at myself for even trying, maybe it was ok and I finally broke it. But I'm a cheap bastard and I didn't want to buy a new one. I opened the door thingy in the bottom part and put a fan blowing on it for 2 days. After I thought it was dry, I tried turning it on and it didn't, it was lifeless. Not even a single beep. It had become garbage.



Just kidding. It worked again (by miracle). I've been using since 2008 and I'm typing this on it right now.

Great to hear everything came out fine for you!
I took mine to the repair shop today. I'm really nervous, I was an impatient moron yesterday and tried to turn it on a few times after drying it with a fan :/ I hope I didn't broke anything important in the process, as the repairs in this case may cost my monthly budget. What a shitty two days, blah. It's as if I attract all the misfortunes around.
 
Under no circumstances should you be getting updates about your ex. Tell your friends that the information just hurts you and impedes your recovery.

This might sound callous but if she's your ex, she doesn't owe you anything at this point. Cut ties for now, tell friends not to give you updates if it hurts this much.

I told them that before, but they feel obligated to inform me about anything that happens in her life. We have a lot of mutual friends and I think they still want us two back together.

I know that she doesn't owe me anything at this point, but is it too much to ask to take things a little bit slower? She knows excactly how much I'm currently struggling with the situation. Uploading a picture on instagram after 3 dates is a little bit exaggerated in my opinion and is just there to hurt me even more.
 
Today is my birthday shouldn't I feel somewhat happy? I don't feel sad or down but just kind of indifferent. Have a doctors appointment to look forward to tomorrow. Hopefully brings more good news of more weight dropped that would be a good pick me up.

Still no progress on the job thing but I got my drivers permit so there is that. Overall I have been feeling better and better as time goes on.
 
I told them that before, but they feel obligated to inform me about anything that happens in her life. We have a lot of mutual friends and I think they still want us two back together.

I know that she doesn't owe me anything at this point, but is it too much to ask to take things a little bit slower? She knows excactly how much I'm currently struggling with the situation. Uploading a picture on instagram after 3 dates is a little bit exaggerated in my opinion and is just there to hurt me even more.
I think it is too much to ask. She doesn't really have to consider you anymore and reading her actions as being primarily about you is not good for you and it's probably not accurate.

You need to make it clearer to your friends that you really don't need to know about her life and that what they are doing is hurting you, not helping.
 
Feeling pretty lonely today, and my friend has gone quiet which is making me anxious. Think I might get to sleep or watch some twitch/YouTube to distract me.
 
Today is my birthday shouldn't I feel somewhat happy? I don't feel sad or down but just kind of indifferent. Have a doctors appointment to look forward to tomorrow. Hopefully brings more good news of more weight dropped that would be a good pick me up.

Still no progress on the job thing but I got my drivers permit so there is that. Overall I have been feeling better and better as time goes on.
Happy birthday, dude! Enjoy and do something with it!

I think it is too much to ask. She doesn't really have to consider you anymore and reading her actions as being primarily about you is not good for you and it's probably not accurate.

You need to make it clearer to your friends that you really don't need to know about her life and that what they are doing is hurting you, not helping.

All I'm asking for is a tiny bit of understanding from her. It's not the fact that she is dating someone, it's more how she shows the world how quickly she got over me. For a person that last week said that she doesn't want me to vanish out of her life because she cares about me and that still wants to visit my brother (who is in prison) really soon, it shouldn't be too much to ask.

I told my friends again that they shouldn't text me about anything related to her. They promised me (again) that they would stop. They all hate her guts now after the picture anyway.
 
I told my Dad that my usually anxiety-induced IBS was bad yesterday, and he replied with, "I don't understand how you can go to a specialist and be seen about it, yet not be able to manage it and go to work everyday like [insert family's PSW's name] does."

I reminded him it's not my biggest problem, which is the crippling depression.

Some days, I wish I lived a normal life because I'm bored. But I'm too fucked up to do that.
 
So I went to a physical therapist today for a consultation about an injury, and whilst I was there I had a wave of depression come over me. I'm just trying to figure out where it came from. I can think of three factors:

1. I was already feeling down when I arrived; my day at work has been poor. I have not been very energetic or productive over the past week, have asked lots of questions about new processes and made mistakes. I really had the strong feeling come over me today that I am about to be let go from my job (it's temp-to-perm, and my 3 months comes up soon). I really need a productive day tomorrow to get over this feeling and convince myself that I am a decent worker,

2. When I lifted my shirt up for the therapist to examine me I saw how out of shape and fat I was in the mirror.

3. The therapist looks like the kind of person who I wouldn't have gotten on with at school, so at an ambient level I kind of re-lived those feelings of rejection and alienation.

I think 1 was the main driver. In a way I can't wait until tomorrow comes so I can get through my backlog.
 
Man, this is literally - and by far - the sickest I've ever been. Three days bedridden and then today still feeling pretty horrible.
Regardless, I do feel much better today. Was actually able to get a bit of work done for the first time since Sunday, which felt good. Also made me wonder how much of my feeling terrible was mental after just laying in bed for three days straight since I do feel quite a bit better now that I've been out and about.

It also occurred to me today that I haven't really been happy in like a month or two... Meh

I've loved most of the music I've heard by him. It's one of my favorite genres. Boards of Canada, Loscil, Aphex Twin, The Field, Orbital etc etc. Ambient electronic & trance is just so good.

Here's another I rediscovered today.

Thanks! I'll check those out!

Thanks

My depression comes and goes in waves. I was okay for parts of the summer, but now it's back and bothering me again.

Ah yeah, I know how that goes. Hang in there.
 
Lol, I had this typed up and ready to post in the "Top 5 Gaffers" thread:

It's kind of a blow to the fragile ego when you've been a member for over four years and you realize you haven't really made much of an impression on anybody. I get why though, I find that I pretty much change my persona with every post I make because I don't have a real, consistent personality. Wow, this got depressing fast.

Glad I stopped myself.
 
I have to wait on September 9 to see if they have a tutor for that class.

I'm hoping for the best.

Linking it to progress relative to my own path in life instead of connecting it to someone else's. I'd always see my friends talk about how well they're doing in their majors without ever taking into account the different path that goes along with their major. It may be easier, or it may be harder, so it doesn't make sense to compare it to my own. I don't have the same advantages/disadvantages as other people, so I can't play this game in the same way. Can't get discouraged because things aren't going exactly the same.

What I'd really like to solve is being more social without seeming desperate for company. People can smell desperation a mile away. I'm able to be happy on my own, but I'd still like to be able to social, and I think I can be social.

It sounds as though you've made some real progress, zeemumu, learning the sorts of things we can only learn for ourselves.

As far as being social, I've found it to be a snowball effect. As you've said, being desperate gives people a weird vibe. When I was stuck in a rut of loneliness it really felt like I had "forgotten" how to be social. I was less comfortable around people and didn't know what to say or how to socialize. For me, it helped to start small. First, I got myself around people a lot more often (a natural byproduct of going back to school). Then I tried to start taking advantage of the obvious opportunities to exchange a bit of conversation with those around me in my classes (instead of trying to avoid conversation, which is what I HAD been doing) and then once I finally made one friend he introduced me to another friend, and I guess the social confidence that gave me projects outwards because I've found it much easier to be social as time has gone on. The whole process took maybe a year.

There were definitely some real misses in that time, too - people who said they'd hang out with me and then ignored me, awkward conversations, et cetera. It comes with the territory.

Hope that's somewhat helpful.

You're right, of course. I re-assessed my relationship with her, and while I do value her, I think it's correct that relying upon her as any sort of emotional crutch is counterproductive. Friendship, sure. But I'm going to continue to cultivate friendships here, with people I can actually grab a drink or coffee with, instead. My ex is an important part of my life, and some part of me thinks that we might reconcile when we're both 50, and it's hard to extinguish that thought. And yet it's not something I strive for; I don't pine for her in any respect, and I've severed everything logistically between us save a joint puppy expense account, our "family" cell phone plan, and our shared Netflix/Hulu passwords. Still, critically thinking about it was worth it.

In any case, the job thing's just going to frustrate me and there's nothing I can do about it other than try to mitigate things as best I can. I can't eradicate that feeling; I can, however, constrain it. I tried volunteering for a deployment to Afghanistan yesterday (it's $$$$), but there's none available -- that would've taken my mind off of things! Eight months is a long time, but I need to take solace in the fact that I'm doing nearly everything I can. Take pride in the process, even if you're frustrated with the results, right?

Right, that sounds like a good perspective. I don't know what it's like to have an ex wife, AD, so I can't say "DO THIS" or "DO THAT" but I would imagine there's a good, balanced middle-ground to be found in that sort of situation and it sounds like you're doing your best to find it.

Shit is a terrible feeling :(.

I've tried moving on, this past weekend met a girl we hooked up and when I woke up, everything came back like a storm. I don't wanna be with anyone else, but at the same time I know my ex is doing all the things we loved and going to all the places we loved and sending someone else the messages she shows she cares to someone else. I just wish I was more heartless and could move on easier.

Was this the first girl you hooked up with since the breakup? If so, it makes sense that you had a resurgence of feelings - it's the first time you've gone to that vulnerable place since your breakup. After I broke up with my ex the first time I hooked up with a girl - about 2 months later - I felt awful, like I had betrayed her and driven the final nail into the coffin or something. It was weird, but it got better with time.

Another thing I want to talk about is the way my head works and how I express myself in words or in text form. Often my friends need to explain my words/story to others because I either skip some relevant parts or just sound confusing. I don't realise I do this myself but I know it happens because many either misunderstand what I say or do not understand at all. As a result I take a long time to write emails or conference papers because I constantly re-edit the text to make sense. Any tips on that? This is not really depression related but it affects how people perceive me and I do not want to give the wrong impression.

Well, I can't tell you specifically what to do since I can't peek into your head, but it sounds as though you just need to work on organizing your thoughts and pacing your expression of them. The biggest tip that applies to 94% of people is SLOW DOWN! We have a tendency when speaking (or even typing) to go so fast that we can't think of what comes next, and then we end up saying "like" or "um" a lot or losing our train of thought. Slowing down and going at a more even, walking tempo can help give you time to sort things out and figure out what comes next.

Which, of course, it's something I want to change and, to begin with it, I want to become confident on myself. I want to be "brave" enough to tell people about my discomfort and my needs and to find this value and motivation in myself and I want to find my value on myself and what I'm worth, not by the worth other people give me.

I'm kind of lost of where to begin, though...

Unfortunately it's the sort of thing that none of us can describe in specifics. Generally, what you need to do is a lot of self-exploration and reflection on yourself, your relationships, your sense of self-worth, how to build purpose and meaning, et cetera. What that means, specifically, though, is different for each and every single person. My answers to those questions simply aren't the same as yours or anyone else's.

There is one upshot, though, which is that as long as you're not ignoring your feelings pretty much everything you do in response to them and every thought you have about them is some sort of progress. When I was very lonely, sometimes I would write. Sometimes I would draw. Sometimes I'd run around my neighborhood and cry. Sometimes I'd go somewhere private and talk to myself about what was going through my head. Sometimes I'd listen to music. All of these things were helpful in different ways; all of them gave me some sense of release from and understanding of my emotions. Different things were more or less helpful at different times, and it just took trying them all out to see what was most helpful.

So I encourage you to just stay open to your experience, to your emotions, however unpleasant they may be. For as long as you're letting them flow through you they will naturally motivate you to certain actions and outlets - maybe some of the ones I listed above - and if you keep yourself open to it all you'll learn a lot.

Instrumental songs really get to me when I'm manic. I was listening to Elegia by New Order a lot over the weekend in anticipation of MGSV and it really hit me hard. It brought everything up, and to top it all off that same day I had learned that my ex who I thought I was over had finally moved onto someone new, and it just hurt so very much to see everyone else's world move forward instead of my own. As of the moment I'm posting and typing this, I'm all right in the mind, no mania or anything, but when I posted over the weekend I was in a really bad place.
I've noticed I'll usually only post in this thread when things are absolutely the worst and I have nowhere else to go.

Well, that's what the thread is here for, is it not? Hopefully it's able to offer you some sense of relief when you need it.

I'm feeling extremely lonely right now, and it's not only making me anxious, but it's also making me lose my concentration. In addition to being jobless and having my family pressuring me to do family activities that I don't want to participate in, I just want to crawl into a ball and die.

Would doing family activities, however undesirable they may seem, help with your loneliness at all?

but then im here struggling with even making simple decisions, living on the past, afraid of the future, failure,anxiety, loneliness, stress, etc, getting much better these last 4 months but recently lost all motivation to continue therapy, i dont trust my psychiatrist, but im afraid to go to a new one :/

Why don't you trust your psychiatrist? Why are you afraid to go to a new one?

Today is my birthday shouldn't I feel somewhat happy? I don't feel sad or down but just kind of indifferent. Have a doctors appointment to look forward to tomorrow. Hopefully brings more good news of more weight dropped that would be a good pick me up.

Still no progress on the job thing but I got my drivers permit so there is that. Overall I have been feeling better and better as time goes on.

For what it's worth, redlegs, birthdays get me down. I hope you have as good a birthday as reasonably possible, though.
I'm glad you're feeling better! Any idea what's behind the upswing?

Feeling pretty lonely today, and my friend has gone quiet which is making me anxious. Think I might get to sleep or watch some twitch/YouTube to distract me.

I hope your friend surfaces again, Nevasleep. And I hope you were able to, well, sleep.

So I went to a physical therapist today for a consultation about an injury, and whilst I was there I had a wave of depression come over me. I'm just trying to figure out where it came from. I can think of three factors:

1. I was already feeling down when I arrived; my day at work has been poor. I have not been very energetic or productive over the past week, have asked lots of questions about new processes and made mistakes. I really had the strong feeling come over me today that I am about to be let go from my job (it's temp-to-perm, and my 3 months comes up soon). I really need a productive day tomorrow to get over this feeling and convince myself that I am a decent worker,

2. When I lifted my shirt up for the therapist to examine me I saw how out of shape and fat I was in the mirror.

3. The therapist looks like the kind of person who I wouldn't have gotten on with at school, so at an ambient level I kind of re-lived those feelings of rejection and alienation.

I think 1 was the main driver. In a way I can't wait until tomorrow comes so I can get through my backlog.

It's great to hear that you're thinking through your feelings, ceramic, and trying to make sense of where they came from. The longer you shine a light in that direction the more you will learn, and all of it is progress. I hope you're able to get some good work done tomorrow so that you feel a greater sense of momentum at your job!

In the mean time, it's interesting that two of your three reasons are a sort of projection onto the future or onto others. Ideas about how others feel or what will happen. It's a real trap, thinking that way.

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Yes, your post totally makes sense.
If your counselor gave up, Rox598, then it sounds to me like it's time to move onto a different counselor. Your problems and suffering are not untreatable, period.

In the mean time, perhaps you can start recognizing the times when you're buying things out of anxiety or unhappiness, write them down and pledge to decide whether or not to buy them only once you feel better? This has helped me. Instead, you can sit with the feelings of unhappiness or suffering and feel them rather than try to avoid them. I've saved TONS of money doing this...seriously.

Also, happy-preemptive birthday. I'm 25 now (woohoo!) and I can tell you you've got plenty of time to figure out where to point your life next. The real metric isn't where we are but whether we feel we've made progress - so the sooner you can feel that you have, the sooner you will feel more confident in your life.

I don't actually know how to get a counselor here...I got one the last time from a place that helps you find work (company I worked for back then went into administration so we lost our jobs) but I feel like it won't help anyway :(

Idk I feel like i'm my own worst enemy, I hate myself so I make really bad choices that make everything worse and i'm not even conscious i'm doing it.

Gah I feel like i should have had a few relationships by now too looking at every single one of my friends settling down makes it worse... I understand why they don't do things with me as much anymore and I feel like I should be at that stage too but i've never even had a date let alone a kiss :/ I;ve even tried internet dating and get nowhere...Maybe it's my looks or the fact i'm boring...blegh my head is fried!

Also, thank you :)
 
For what it's worth, redlegs, birthdays get me down. I hope you have as good a birthday as reasonably possible, though.
I'm glad you're feeling better! Any idea what's behind the upswing?


I have been outside more just walking to get in shape. Probably a combination of the endorphins from the exercise and getting out of the house more. That and I am just eating better so I don't feel like crap all the time from the stuff I use to stuff my face with.
 
Things have been okay. Not great, not godawful, just okay. I'm still coming to terms with my friend having moved overseas but he pops onto Steam (for work) at 1 AM my time so that gives me a few hours with him before I go to bed. I spent last night with his wife because I worry about her being lonely during this transitional phase (she's out here alone for the next few weeks wrapping things up in America) and we watched Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol. Badass movie.

In the meantime, I've been strengthening contacts both long-distance and local. My buddy was never someone who I overly depended on (and there were periods I didn't see him for a couple of months even though we lived thirty minutes away) but he was such a dependable presence that his absence has made me acutely aware that I need to focus on other friendships, especially the local ones as I don't have much of a social network out here.

This hasn't been easy. My health makes it difficult for me to get out and I'm finding that a lot of local friendships really expect you to actually do stuff. The reason I have a lot of online and long distance friends is because that nature of relationship is fairly easy for me to maintain from home. But at the same time, as wonderful as those people are, there's nothing quite like having another human in the same room as you.

I'm working on it.
 
Refilling prescriptions sucks. I'll run out, then I'll be anxious about refilling the prescription so I'll put it off, but the longer I put it off the more the meds wear off and the more anxious I get.
 
I'm having so many doubts about my work performance...
Like, I got someone to cover my shift tonight since I'm still feeling pretty shitty after being bedridden the past three days, but I probably could've worked my shift, it just would've been kind of miserable. And I've already missed a few days this week, and I'm kind of salaried in a sense - I get paid a certain amount per week - and I'm supposed to hit around 60 hours per pay period (which is every two weeks), and because I was sick I think I'm going to fall way short of that and I'm just all kinds of messed up in the head right now. Anxiety, depression, the whole deal.

The worst part about anxiety is you always idealize about running away from everything that's giving you anxiety. Just taking off and leaving everything behind and starting with a blank slate. But then you remember that it isn't your circumstances, it's your mind, and you can't escape yourself, so you're just trapped and hopeless.

I also just watched Short Term 12 (incredible movie) and was nearly crying the whole time.

I guess that doctor's appointment tomorrow can't come soon enough. I'm just so broken...
 
I'm having so many doubts about my work performance...
Like, I got someone to cover my shift tonight since I'm still feeling pretty shitty after being bedridden the past three days, but I probably could've worked my shift, it just would've been kind of miserable. And I've already missed a few days this week, and I'm kind of salaried in a sense - I get paid a certain amount per week - and I'm supposed to hit around 60 hours per pay period (which is every two weeks), and because I was sick I think I'm going to fall way short of that and I'm just all kinds of messed up in the head right now. Anxiety, depression, the whole deal.

The worst part about anxiety is you always idealize about running away from everything that's giving you anxiety. Just taking off and leaving everything behind and starting with a blank slate. But then you remember that it isn't your circumstances, it's your mind, and you can't escape yourself, so you're just trapped and hopeless.

I also just watched Short Term 12 (incredible movie) and was nearly crying the whole time.

I guess that doctor's appointment tomorrow can't come soon enough. I'm just so broken...

Yeah, I fantasize about going somewhere else, but the act of moving to a totally new place in itself would increase my anxiety tenfold. It sucks. The only way I could actually alleviate my anxiety besides therapy and medication (potentially, they haven't exactly worked yet, at least not to a very meaningful extent) would be to have no responsibilities or obligations to others and a steady flow of money, food, and entertainment so I could hole up in a room by myself 24/7 and waste my time waiting to die. Just have the world forget about me and exist in a void. But then even though I wouldn't be so anxious, I wouldn't be happy either. I was alone in a dorm my freshman year of college and had literally no meaningful interaction with anybody for the whole school year except when I visited my parents on holidays, and that year was probably the closest I ever came to killing myself. I lived alone again in an apartment my senior year but at that point I guess I was used to it because I was more numb than suicidal.

I've been meaning to watch Short Term 12 mostly because I have a crush on Brie Larson. I'll have to move it up on the list.
 
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Why don't you trust your psychiatrist? Why are you afraid to go to a new one?

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trust may have been the wrong word.
its just that he makes me nervous, we are not seeing much progress because im frustrated, cant think clearly so maybe im not expresing my ideas well (or can barely talk), and he gets frustrated as well, says that all was my fault, "sodomy", something
of course i feel guilty, but i kind of wanted someone to talk a little, intead i feel judged.

, i want to see another , im just a little nervous to start all over again. but now be a little more constructive/positive,, reflect on what the psychiatrist said.a few thinks i agree and others really not.
anyways, thanks for responding (to all :)
 
trust may have been the wrong word.
its just that he makes me nervous, we are not seeing much progress because im frustrated, cant think clearly so maybe im not expresing my ideas well (or can barely talk), and he gets frustrated as well, says that all was my fault, "sodomy", something
of course i feel guilty, but i kind of wanted someone to talk a little, intead i feel judged.

, i want to see another , im just a little nervous to start all over again. but now be a little more constructive/positive,, reflect on what the psychiatrist said.a few thinks i agree and others really not.
anyways, thanks for responding (to all :)

Sodomy? Elaborate.
 
Yeah, I fantasize about going somewhere else, but the act of moving to a totally new place in itself would increase my anxiety tenfold. It sucks. The only way I could actually alleviate my anxiety besides therapy and medication (potentially, they haven't exactly worked yet, at least not to a very meaningful extent) would be to have no responsibilities or obligations to others and a steady flow of money, food, and entertainment so I could hole up in a room by myself 24/7 and waste my time waiting to die. Just have the world forget about me and exist in a void. But then even though I wouldn't be so anxious, I wouldn't be happy either. I was alone in a dorm my freshman year of college and had literally no meaningful interaction with anybody for the whole school year except when I visited my parents on holidays, and that year was probably the closest I ever came to killing myself. I lived alone again in an apartment my senior year but at that point I guess I was used to it because I was more numb than suicidal.

I've been meaning to watch Short Term 12 mostly because I have a crush on Brie Larson. I'll have to move it up on the list.

Yes yes yes. I've had those exact same thoughts. If I got rid of all responsibilities I'd solve a large part of the anxiety problem (although I know from experience that even when I don't have responsibilities, I find plenty to be anxious about), but I'm never more depressed as I am when I don't have any responsibilities.
 
Would doing family activities, however undesirable they may seem, help with your loneliness at all?

It wouldn't, because they are the only people that I see on a daily basis. Doesn't help that they are both stressing me out and increasing my anxiety.

It's also one of the reasons why I just try to get away from them, either going to the gym or going for walks for long hours.
 
I'm emotionally unsatisfied.

- I find my career path unrewarding. In order to make it rewarding I would have to give up more time then I would be willing to put in. The pay will never be good enough.
- I lost a shit load of weight yet still feel fat and am constantly worried about gaining it all back. I miss eating for enjoyment.
- My friendships aren't meeting my needs. I feel I give more than I get.
- I hate myself.
 
Back from my mini vacation. It was awesome, being all alone for three days :) Enjoyed in water massages, swimming around in the pools and bathing in so called black water - pristine hot thermal water with some oil residue in it (just imagine the smell). It was really black, you could see maybe 20 cm under the surface. Well, it worked wonders on my aching muscles. And weather was nice and I hiked around the spa each evening after dinner and I even done some sunbathing :)

And nobody bothered me - majority were pensioners and families. Chatted a bit with some girls from Austria and some other older folk at poolside and that was it.
 
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