Yeah. Tried fixing it by moving the files from the Download to the MGS_TPP directory, but that only caused all files to be deleted when I tried to start the installation again.
I sucked it up and redownloaded from scratch :/
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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain PC performance thread
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I sucked it up and redownloaded from scratch :/
Garrett Hawke
Member
Is it just me or does HBAO+ have a much larger performance impact in this game than in, say, The Witcher 3? I feel like there performance impact was negligible but here I lose a good few frames when it's enabled.
Game has been puzzling me the past day or so since I unlocked the FPS. I have a 5960x @ 4Ghz and SLI Titan X. Playing at 1440p I'm getting a constant 75-80ish fps at Motherbase. Similar performance in busy areas in Afghanistan (Helicopters, D-Walkers, lots of enemies, etc). Honestly I expected a lot better after hearing how optimized it is, etc.
I am wondering if I have a bottleneck and something is wrong with my CPU but I'm really not sure. Both GPUs are only hitting about 76% usage. I have not noticed any problems with other CPU intensive games like Witcher 3 and GTAV. I played 150+ hours of W3 and my framerate was always above 60, usually between 70-80 fps in the wilderness. Witcher 3 is by far the superior game graphically. Of course it had some stuttering which MGS barely has any.
I don't really know what the deal is here but I'm just gonna forget about it for now and play the game.
I got a Nexus Mods site created for MGSV:TPP.
My mod link
You two might want to submit your mods to NexusMods as well now, since there is a site for it.
It varies depending on which settings you decide to turn up. If all are at high, then In general I sit right around 60fps with an occasional drop using a GTX970 + i5 2400k. I actually think CPU may be a limiting factor for me because when framerate drops my GPU is often not even fully taxed.
Disable camera shake. I had the exact same thing at locked 60. Its not even framedrops, just the camera shake looking weird.
My mod link
I've made a quick mod here to play as Quiet. It replaces the Solid Snake costume from MGS1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3x_yY0gnj5sS2xaRkZaLUUyTEU
Just be sure to follow the instructions properly. You'll need to work a little as I didn't feel like uploading a 1.5Gb file so instead I'm explaining how to extract, replace a file in and repack the archive.
You two might want to submit your mods to NexusMods as well now, since there is a site for it.
Thanks for "Easy to Install" package, will definitely check this out. What kind FPS hit you are seeing on your setup [what it's?] when using Extended Extra High settings? I assume Extreme is done with "1 FPS is 1 screenshot per second" mentality
It varies depending on which settings you decide to turn up. If all are at high, then In general I sit right around 60fps with an occasional drop using a GTX970 + i5 2400k. I actually think CPU may be a limiting factor for me because when framerate drops my GPU is often not even fully taxed.
Disable camera shake. I had the exact same thing at locked 60. Its not even framedrops, just the camera shake looking weird.
Dictator93
Member
I have had a similar situation as well.
Unlocking the game's FPS and turning down the resolution while trying to get 120fps just does not work on my rig for example. My CPU utilization does not go up really and my GPU is starved of utilization (same is happening for you but just on a different scale). I mentioned to you before that I thought you were CPU bottlenecked, then someoen mentioned the SLI profile could be less than advantageous (which would be weird, because MGS GZ scaled near perfectly for me when I had Tri-SLI... and scaled incredibly well IMO when I unlocked the framerate in that game).
I am starting to think the game may be... API limited :0
Anyone else's GPU just getting totally bumfucked by this game?
I constantly see 95+ GPU usage followed by high temps followed by throttling unless I crank my fan curve something fierce--had to set it to 80% earlier to keep up with the game...
On Win8.1, 980ti + i7960 OC'd to 3.8 ghz, settings to max and DSR'ing to 1440p
I constantly see 95+ GPU usage followed by high temps followed by throttling unless I crank my fan curve something fierce--had to set it to 80% earlier to keep up with the game...
On Win8.1, 980ti + i7960 OC'd to 3.8 ghz, settings to max and DSR'ing to 1440p
dgrdsv
Member
Has anyone else noticed that the AF is weird in this game? This is with Texture Filtering as high as it goes.
AF is enabled by an application on a per texture basis, some textures may not be using AF, it's completely up to designers to decide. Try forcing AF in the driver - that should put the same AF level on all textures.
Maybe it's more expensive when forced via the driver, while The Witcher 3 has native HBAO+ support.
artsi
Member
Yeah it seems to, I don't use it myself for that reason.
Get an AIO cooler or go watercooling
my Titan X sits at a lovely 1540 core non stop when gaming these days where as it would throttle like crazy beforeGet an AIO cooler or go watercooling
Is this something you would recommend?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998105
I have a reference board, but it's the SuperClocked EVGA. I wouldn't think that make any difference (if anything it should help more, lol), but it's worth asking before I pull the trigger on it.
EDIT: Weird that my link looks that way vs how it shows up in the post screen as a standard NE link
?Dictator93
Member
Get an AIO cooler or go watercooling
I am personally considering the the AIO hybrid cooler for the TItan X from EVGA. Just need to make sure it is in stock is all!
Coolbgdog12
Member
Sorry to sound ignorant but what setting exactly is this mod changing?? I assume the lighting?
Level of detail [shadows rendered, quality of lightning, objects rendered etc.] is improved at all distances from and around player. Lightning and shadows looks to get most noticeable boost in quality.
ussjtrunks
Member
After setting effects to high the only drops I get now are at nightime fighting enemies where it can go into the 50s, gtx980 1440p game runs fantastic overall and having a great time with it 
Or you can get the NZXT G10 bracket. That way you can use an off the shelf AIO cooler. This has the benefit that you can probably re-purpose it in the future.
Dictator93
Member
oh, wow. Just hearing about this for the first time. What a fantastic idea....
It certainly has a huge Impact in this game. If I activate it I have the same perfomance at 1440p as I have at 4k without it :/.
Yes, everyone does have that with Effects on Extra High. It can also happen when you throw yourself to the ground (only noticeable if you barely reach 60fps), fultoning stuff or from the smoke of damaged vehicles.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Nice! Thanks for this!!
I used zip ties (crazy, huh?) for my aio cooler. My TX usually sits at 38* while playing TPP on max settings @ 1440p.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Whoops - double post
Especially specifically even for driving in first-person. It's ridiculous.
What about your VRM temps? If you're not taking care of that then that seems a bit risky.
Dictator93
Member
I made a quick and dirty comparison showing the effects setting and how it affects particles and shadowing on particles.
Link to video here by clicking on the image:
!My take on it:
low and high use the same shadow filtering for the particle shadows. High uses a few more sprites.
Very high uses a softfadow filter on the particle shadows and uses a LOT more sprites. It does look quite a bit better though.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Hm, well I'm glad it's not just me. I think I'm going to look at setting my monitor to 50Hz to use it and a few higher settings.
To give a short description, every step is an incremental increase in that settings specific rendering distance, or quality.
For example, from Low to High, shadows will render further out. From High to ExtraHigh, shadows will render even further, and get a resolution bump.
The largest performance impact is lighting on Extra high.
At Low (original vanilla Extra High setting) the game will render 12 shadow casting static objects, 4 shadow casting dynamic objects, and 512 lights total. At Extra High, it will render 32 static shadow casting objects, 24 dynamic shadow casting objects, 1024 lights, render them at 4x the distance, and won't render the majority of the lights below the second LoD level (as opposed to by default being only 1/2 step).
Models should render at 8x the distance at extra high.
Stuff like that. I'm also looking into making the reflections more visible.
I've found that during daytime I can actually hold Extra High for all of the settings on my 970. Its during night time when a lot of lights get rendered that Extra High Lighting will take about 30-40 frames off. With Lighting set to High I can hold mostly 60. I'm actually considering tweaking the config more to make Extra High even more for shadows and model rendering, to better match with the extreme lighting demands.
Dictator93
Member
What is the best way to measure VRM temps? Is there a sensor there even?
I made a super easy to use extreme graphics mod.
Download link: Without FXAA | With FXAA
Install instructions:
Extract this zip to your "MGS_TPP\master" folder.
Run the "Run This - Extra Extra High Settings.bat" file.
Launch the game.
Here is the new settings configuration with the file.
Low settings = Original Extra High
High Settings = Playable extended settings
ExtraHigh Settings = Extreme settings for screenshots
If your PC has everything maxed out and has performance to spare, then you should probably check it out. Keep in mind that ExtraHigh is VERY taxing and you most likely will not hold 60fps with it.
How do I change to which one I want to use?
Some cards don't have sensors on the VRM, but on the ones that do, GPU-Z is a good bet.
The reason I suggested it is because simply zip-tieing an AIO to the GPU, means that the previous heatsink that was there can no longer cool the VRM transistors, (unless the card has a separate heatsink for the VRM).
The G10 bracket is good because it also has a fan on it to cool the VRM and the memory modules.
OH so I just change it in the in-game settings? Sorry but normally I would have to change settings in some .ini or something
OH so I just change it in the in-game settings? Sorry but normally I would have to change settings in some .ini or something
Yea, as I understand it your ingame settings get overwritten with the modded settings.
OH so I just change it in the in-game settings? Sorry but normally I would have to change settings in some .ini or something
Yep, I reassigned all of the Low settings to match the original ExtraHigh, reassigned High to extended settings, and ExtraHigh to extreme settings.
Nice...cheers xD
Had no internet access pretty much since release and my download should be ready by tomorrow. Seems lots of stuff has been discovered but unfortunately the OP hasn't been updated from what I can tell.
I'll make sure to use the following:
- FPS unlock (no side-effects for gamepad players from what I can tell? no more sticky throwables?)
- HBAO+ in Nvidia CP
- Force AF in Nvidia CP (judging from the blurry image several posts above)
- Apparently they still have FXAA coupled to a post processing preset and there's no setting for SMAA, MSAA etc. huh? I wonder if I can still squeeze in some DSR after HBAO+... but I guess I'll find out!
Btw to those with download issues: It's probably the update download bug. If there's an update to the game you're downloading and you pause and resume (or close and reopen Steam etc) after the update is released, you'll have to redownload basically the whole thing; minus dependencies I think. I've been able to circumvent this by disabling auto updates for the game in question. Have paused and resumed TPP multiple times since release and it's still downloading fine so far. *knocks on wood*
I'll make sure to use the following:
- FPS unlock (no side-effects for gamepad players from what I can tell? no more sticky throwables?)
- HBAO+ in Nvidia CP
- Force AF in Nvidia CP (judging from the blurry image several posts above)
- Apparently they still have FXAA coupled to a post processing preset and there's no setting for SMAA, MSAA etc. huh? I wonder if I can still squeeze in some DSR after HBAO+... but I guess I'll find out!
Btw to those with download issues: It's probably the update download bug. If there's an update to the game you're downloading and you pause and resume (or close and reopen Steam etc) after the update is released, you'll have to redownload basically the whole thing; minus dependencies I think. I've been able to circumvent this by disabling auto updates for the game in question. Have paused and resumed TPP multiple times since release and it's still downloading fine so far. *knocks on wood*
Just as a bit of reference, HBAO+ causes some severe sudden frame rate drops in certain instances (In the single digits at times) but there's also a certain cutscene where you'll get a sustained single digit FPS almost the entire time.
So if you have sudden issues, might keep an eye on it. That's on a GTX 970 at 1080p.
Is there any change to the Ambient Occlusion setting?
7DollarHagane
Banned
On a gtx 670 and i7 2700k am I going to see significant difference from the ps4 version in shadows and draw distances?
I went with ps4 because of this but I'm thinking about buying both versions.
I went with ps4 because of this but I'm thinking about buying both versions.
Dictator93
Member
Spazznid
Member
Ah! That's what that was, happened a few times on the intro area, thought it was reflections.
Which one was that?
In other news, I've played through almost all of the game and updated my comments on reflections: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/gu...gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-post-processing
TLDR: Very few uses, lower quality than in Ground Zeroes, barely affected by Post Processing or any other setting, always enabled.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
I have copper ramsinks on front and back of my vram/vrm, with 3x80mm fans pumping cool air over them. So far, so good.
I use an IR gun to check my temps.
I have copper ramsinks on front and back of my vram/vrm, with 3x80mm fans pumping cool air over them. So far, so good.
That's good then. One technically shouldn't need to put heatsinks on RAM, but as long as it is on the VRM then it will be fine.