Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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Shadoken said:
He was in shadoloo alright , he joined there to get revenge on Ryu. He was blinded by vengeance.

Sagat has been show in the SF 2 Anime as part of Shadoloo as well. There are countless artworks where Sagat is alongside Vega/Rog/Bison as the core Shadoloo team.
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I honestly wish Juri would have just been another addition to the Shadoloo team.
 
Westlo said:
Oro? He would make Capcom fuck all money unless he was Yun tier. He wasn't even that popular in the official street fighter poll... I mean FFS Remy got more votes than him.

No way he makes SFV before Akuma, Sak, Juri, Guile, Ibuki, Sagat, Dudley, Cody, Makoto etc
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http://web.archive.org/web/20051219091936/www2.geestore.com/sf15th2/sf15rank/ninkichara.html

Weirdly enough I found this poll on the Guy wiki page lmao :D .... Apparently it was a poll Capcom did for the 15th Anniversary of Street Fighter.
Remy is weirdly popular. And Karin and Mika were still holding up , It sort of puts things in perspective to how things were Pre-SF4.

Though this is Japan only I think.
 
I will play the whole cast
very poorly mind you
and see who sticks.

That is generally what I do for every fighting game. Very rarely do I pick my main before playing in any game.
 
Septimus Prime said:
Was he ever Shadaloo? I always figured he got slotted in right before Bison in SF2 because he was the big boss of SF1. So you work through the roster, and then you fight Bison's lieutenants, and then you fight Sagat because he's stronger than Balrog and Vega, and then you finally get to the new big boss.
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Bruh, they're the Four (Heavenly) Kings. He's always been in Shadoloo.
 
Mik317 said:
I will play the whole cast
very poorly mind you
and see who sticks.

That is generally what I do for every fighting game. Very rarely do I pick my main before playing in any game.
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I sometimes don't even touch certain characters for months outside of randoming them, but there's usually a fair amount that I rotate between and really try to feel out/explore. SFV's got me covered. there's plenty of characters I want to give a fair shake.
 
Gunslinger said:
Nash play very different from traditional guile gameplay. Believe it or not Nash is a very offensive character. I would argue he is one of the more rushdown heavy character in the game right now. They can put guile on the other side of the spectrum by keeping it traditional.Nash is also very different than generic military man now. He is half human and half something else.
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I agree with your points , but don't you feel the other characters are a bit more diverse? We already have people complaining about blondes. We already have 2 characters from the US.

Sonic boom and Flash kick do have some visual similarities to Nash. a character like Sim,Gief,Blanka or Sagat though are waay more different.

I wouldnt be all that shocked if Guile did make it in , but I just feel the others have a slightly better chance.
 
DryEyeRelief said:
fuck old characters

whens laura and zen
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Laura oct 8th.

Shadoken said:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051219091936/www2.geestore.com/sf15th2/sf15rank/ninkichara.html

Weirdly enough I found this poll on the Guy wiki page lmao :D .... Apparently it was a poll Capcom did for the 15th Anniversary of Street Fighter.
Remy is weirdly popular. And Karin and Mika were still holding up , It sort of puts things in perspective to how things were Pre-SF4.

Though this is Japan only I think.
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Profound sadness @ Zero Chun Li being way below II and 3S.
 
shit guys this thread's going to hit a million views sooner or later.

haunts, feel free to send some of us a a stipend/early access code/etc.
 
Shadoken said:
I agree with your points , but don't you feel the other characters are a bit more diverse? We already have people complaining about blondes. We already have 2 characters from the US.

Sonic boom and Flash kick do have some visual similarities to Nash. a character like Sim,Gief,Blanka or Sagat though are waay more different.
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Sure but I really hope alex is not in this game initially. We need something different. Imo bring Guile in story wise it makes sense. For the last few games all he is doing is looking for charlie and now that he is finally here. Makes sense for him to show up. Would like a nice rival battle with him in the story. This is ofcourse IF there is one which I doubt at the moment the character selection seems to random so far. Other than that we can have sim he is always been unique, or bring in Q (reminds me of faust from GG), EX has so many cool characters that capcom can't use unfortunately :(

EDIT: I see your second point bro but at this time we are almost certain of the final roster. Alex and Urien is the 2 old characters. Guile's chance of being in the game almost 0 to none at least at the initial roster.
 
Gunslinger said:
EX has so many cool characters that capcom can't use unfortunately :(
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People said the same for Karin btw.

DONT LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS.... #TeamSkullomaniaForDay1DLC

Capcom is like a million times bigger than Arika.
Skullomania DLC will easily make back whatever licensing fee was associated with it.
 
Shadoken said:
People said the same for Karin btw.

DONT LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS.... #TeamSkullomaniaForDay1DLC

Capcom is like a million times bigger than Arika.
Skullomania DLC will easily make back whatever licensing fee was associated with it.
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Oh yeah bro no doubt. Now that sony is backing them I am sure capcom's roof is limitless. They can get so many characters in. I expect quite a few guest characters actually. I wouldn't be surprised if Nathan drake or kratos shows up on SF :( which will make me mad. SF should have SF characters and maybe some EX or rival school characters. As those series are related somewhat.
 
I hope it doesnt happen , I wasnt a big fan of Cole in SFxT.

None of Sony's characters fit in SFs visual style. Kratos kind of suited MKs violent style though.


Rival schools also needs to happen , Kyosuke was in CvS2. I could see Sakura bringing a Rival school friend with her as DLC.
 
I hope sony can cut a deal with SNK for CvS3. SNK is still trying to make games. KOF 14 although looks like trash gives me hope that they might be willing to work with Sony and Capcom for a CvS3. Developed by Capcom ofcourse with the SFV engine.
 
With the state SNK is right now , they will take whatever deal you hand out.

CvS needs a revival , MvC got its chance last time. Now its time for CvS to shine.
 
Shadoken said:
People said the same for Karin btw.
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Capcom probably owns Karin and she hasn't returned till now for the same reason that many haven't. There hasn't been way to confirm either way who owns her and since they never talk about it like strider , it must be in their favor somehow.

Has the manga creator ever actual been listed on a game in the credits before?
 
Shadoken said:
I wouldnt go as far as to say "waaay" more popular. But I see your point , especially with the comeback theme being a meme now.

I just feel there is some design clashes with nash , both are White Military men from the US. Whereas the others either offer country diversity like Sagat/Gief or offer diversity by being freaks Dhalsim/Blanka.

Dont forget Blanka is notorious with casuals for being able to Mash electricity , hes a favorite among casual mashers. Guile on the other hand actually requires you to do something to win with him.
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Who cares what they look like. They play differently now, which I guess is the point of changing Charlie's moves. He'll be back for plot, which is something Capcom wants to emphasize to get more people interested in buying the game.
Shadoken said:
People said the same for Karin btw.
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If Capcom didn't own her Alpha 3 MAX and PSOne classics Alpha 3 wouldn't include her or wouldn't be for sale at all, which isn't the case.
 
Well folks, it looks like that Silconera leak is becoming factual. I will happily eat crow over Karin, more than once towards this epoch of a threads' meager beginnings(back when many were convinced there was no way they'd put Ken in the game) I maintained my personal belief that Karin wouldn't make it in the game without Sakura BUT my meager defense is that I hadn't really looked into the R.Mika - Karin connection until more recently. As I said before though- I was hoping to wrong with some of my bets and in a way I'm glad I was because it just makes that leaked roster more plausible.

Our cast so far -
Ryu +
Chun Li Hong Kong Stage/ Playstation Xperience 2014
Nash Capcom Cup
Bison Random unveiling (someone correct me on this if I'm wrong)
--Brazil stage prototype and game expo october appearance teased--
Birdie +
Cammy Kings cross-London stage/ Capcom private invite thing/E3
Ken New Zealand waterfall / SDCC
Nicalli EVO 2015
Vega Random Unveiling (again, someone correct me if I'm wrong)
R.Mika PAX prime 2015
Rashid Dubai Gamefest 2015
Karin TGS 2015 / Japan stage- Kanzaki mountain retreat?

4 remaining reveals -
October - Brazil gaming expo thing - Laura + Brazillian street
October - NYCC - Alex + America level
-- beta 2 maybe ? (testing out that new worldwide whatever that was announced today)--
November- Urien/Xen reveal ?
December - PSX/Capcom cup - Urien/Xen reveal + another new stage ?
-- Beta 3 maybe ? (testing PC VS PS4 play worldwide perhaps?)

January - Final systems/gametype/story mode trailer : some characters may show up in story mode that can be fought but not used (ala MKX)
February - Hopefully game launches ?

We've got a pretty decent selection of characters going on now (based on my personal views /experience obviously) -
Ryu - Balanced with tons of small options , easy to learn , moderately hard to master
Chun Li- Flashy rush down , harder to learn , harder still to master
Nash - Flashy zoning , harder still to learn, difficult to master
Bison- power above all else , at least as hard to learn as nash, harder to master
Birdie- flashy mid range grappler, moderate to learn, hard to master
Cammy- super fast but weaker, easy to learn, hard to master
Ken- Ryu but faster, harder to use then Ryu, about the same to master
Nicalli - rushdown grappler(possibly also charge now?), moderate to learn, moderate to master
Vega- Aerial zoner , hard to learn, hard to master
R.mika- straight up grappler , moderate to learn, moderate to master
Rashid - speedy mix up master, easier to learn, hard to master
Karin - power focused rushdown , hard to learn, difficult to master

and if rumors are true -
Laura - ??? perhaps a new copiera fighter to replace Elena and DJ ? I have this image in my mind of a brazillian raver chick decked out in carnival garb wearing headphones , maybe she will be easier to use too ?
Alex - American Wrestler / grappler , more power focused than R.Mika but faster than birdie- about as hard to use as he was in SF3 perhaps ?
Urien - insanely technical zoning character - hard to use and even harder to master (just like SF3)
Xen - for some reason I'm picturing a younger version of Dhalsim - perhaps he's got yoga fireballs and teleports but no stretchy limbs and compensates by not be so dang slow ?
 
Ferrio said:
"The game (final fight) began development as a sequel to the original Street Fighter released in 1987"

He's pretty much a SF character.
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He's a Street Fighter universe character and has been since inception. I think they would count him as new as he's technically never been playable in a SF game.

Skilletor said:
I'm really hoping story mode is like Alpha 2 with everybody having a personal boss.
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Same.

Shadoken said:
Console Vanilla had 4 yes , but you gotta see in comparison to the TOTAL number of characters.

Console vanilla had about 10% Alpha. SF 5 seems to have roughly 1/4th the cast as Alpha.
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A lot of those are series mainstays, you're also counting Alpha 3 which had basically the entire series roster at that point sans SF1 and movie rejects.
 
Beelzebufo said:
This makes no sense though

1. Lots of people love Gief and Sim, and they particularly are great for people who are becoming disinterested in the roster now because they have no idea who Mika and Karin are and are wondering where the wrestler from Wreck it Ralph and the stretchy guy are. Now you could make the argument that they'd still get hyped for Mika and Karin because they look awesome, but that applies to Gief and Sim as well 😁
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When exactly did Zangief and Dhalsim become popular characters? They are iconic series mainstays no doubt buy I've never been under the impression either were ever fan favorites.
 
Dremark said:
When exactly did Zangief and Dhalsim become popular characters? They are iconic series mainstays no doubt buy I've never been under the impression either were ever fan favorites.
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Zangeif i can believe is popular for his personality and being the protector of russias skys.
But Sim isnt popular,hes just not
 
Dremark said:
When exactly did Zangief and Dhalsim become popular characters? They are iconic series mainstays no doubt buy I've never been under the impression either were ever fan favorites.
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He ranked 16th in the official Capcom streetfighter poll... I mean people wanna act like Alex and Urien are fan favs yet Gief beat them easy....

#16 Zangief 6,523
#23 Alex 5,608
#28 Urien 4,519

If Gief had been out of action as long as Urien and Alex he would've been top 10....
 
Dremark said:
When exactly did Zangief and Dhalsim become popular characters? They are iconic series mainstays no doubt buy I've never been under the impression either were ever fan favorites.
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I mean Zangief did better than Alex and Urien in that poll, and a lot of people here need to like them. Take that and add in that they're iconic and I don't see what you're trying to argue.

If you really want to, you can replace "love" with "recognize/give a shit about" if it makes you feel better.
 
Beelzebufo said:
I mean Zangief did better than Alex and Urien in that poll, and a lot of people here need to like them. Take that and add in that they're iconic and I don't see what you're trying to argue.
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I dont need to like anyone, ill gladly hate on the boring world warriors till the cows come home.
 
Westlo said:
He ranked 16th in the official Capcom streetfighter poll... I mean people wanna act like Alex and Urien are fan favs yet Gief beat them easy....

#16 Zangief 6,523
#23 Alex 5,608
#28 Urien 4,519

If Gief had been out of action as long as Urien and Alex he would've been top 10....
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That dont explain Dhalshim tho, hes ranked 32
 
Septimus Prime said:
Was he ever Shadaloo? I always figured he got slotted in right before Bison in SF2 because he was the big boss of SF1. So you work through the roster, and then you fight Bison's lieutenants, and then you fight Sagat because he's stronger than Balrog and Vega, and then you finally get to the new big boss.

Shadaloo guys are actually evil, whereas Sagat isn't, really (as evidenced by him going to help Ryu up after he won their initial fight--before Ryu busted his chest up with Satsui no Hadou and all that). He, like Gill, just happens to be really strong, so he gets to be a boss.
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Sagat was Shadaloo in SF2 as he was butthurt over losing to Ryu. Iirc he got over this in the Alpha games and ditched Shadaloo (Despite them taking place before 2 and retconning it) and at this point him and Ryu are rivals with no hate between them.
 
zedreamcast said:
That dont explain Dhalshim tho, hes ranked 32
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So he's only four spots behind Urien despite appearing in the last game, is iconic, and adds in a novel play style. This is also considering everyone hates keep away characters. He's a well known an beloved character lol, and if nothing else people actually know who he is.
 
Beelzebufo said:
So he's only four spots behind Urien despite appearing in the last game, is iconic, and adds in a novel play style. This is also considering everyone hates keep away characters. He's a well known an beloved character lol, and if nothing else people actually know who he is.
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But if you want a more recognizable zoning character Sagat would be a better choice for 1. Being more iconic 2. Being more involved with shadowloo and bison and the story in general and 3. More popular. Choosing dhalsim over any other zoner is kinda dumb.
 
zedreamcast said:
But if you want a more recognizable zoning character Sagat would be a better choice for 1. Being more iconic 2. Being more involved with shadowloo and bison and the story in general and 3. More popular. Choosing dhalsim over any other zoner is kinda dumb.
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I mean, fine haha. Sagat could be in too I guess, but I think they'd choose Sim for the gameplay variety, both visually and functionally.

It could be any of those SF2 characters. Gief and Sim, Rog and Sagat, Blanka and Honda (😨). Gief and a Sim just make the most sense to me.
 
zedreamcast said:
But if you want a more recognizable zoning character Sagat would be a better choice for 1. Being more iconic 2. Being more involved with shadowloo and bison and the story in general and 3. More popular. Choosing dhalsim over any other zoner is kinda dumb.
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Sagat would also sell and be unlocked more as DLC.... that's also clearly something Capcom are looking @ since Akuma (#3), Sakura (#6), Juri (#8), Sagat (#9) and Q (#10) on their poll aren't in this game.
 
Beelzebufo said:
I mean, fine haha. Sagat could be in too I guess, but I think they'd choose Sim for the gameplay variety, both visually and functionally.

It could be any of those SF2 characters. Gief and Sim, Rog and Sagat, Blanka and Honda (😨). Gief and a Sim just make the most sense to me.
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I can get gief but Sim is one of those characters that no one really cared about? Like hes iconic yes but people would choose any of the other world warriors over sim. Hes always been weird yoga man with weird stretchy powers. I know dhalsim always creeped me out with the weird stretching. Necros a way better version of him and blanka anyways.
Ryu and chun li would pull in 80% of all casual and ken, geif, bison, and guy el would pull in the other 18% with 2% being the rest of the WW
 
zedreamcast said:
I can get gief but Sim is one of those characters that no one really cared about? Like hes iconic yes but people would choose any of the other world warriors over sim. Hes always been weird yoga man with weird stretchy powers. I know dhalsim always creeped me out with the weird stretching. Necros a way better version of him and blanka anyways.
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That sounds like a personal problem you need to work out haha
 
MegamanPoweredUP said:
I was thinking about the roster size. 16 characters seems a little low to me.
I think there will be 2 or 4 more in the main roster
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I'll rather get 16 in March than 20 in June......

Besides I'm sure they'll have 1-2 DLC characters ready to go within a few weeks of launch anyway, they'll want to keep SFV in the news, keep the momentum going etc... not to mention it will be outside the Steam refund period.... "this game sucks.. I'm gonna ref... OMG AKUMA IN 3 WEEKS, I WON'T BE SHIT WITH HIM!!"
 
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