Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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You forget Rashid.
 
People calling Alpha a spinoff are being delusional as hell now.

Prequels are NOT Spinoffs people.

It's a spin-off/sub-series. It's not a mainline game. It's the Prometheus to SF2,3 and 4's Alien(s)

Edt: If it goes by when first playable yhen the green is still the main series with Ryu and Ken for SF1 and the rest from 2. It's similar to how the characters are arranged on the Super SF4 screen.

So why is it that this "spin off" has been given much more importance than SF 3 , A supposed "Mainline" game.

Also why is it Capcom invested a lot more time and money on a "spinoff" franchise.

And Why is it that multiple plot lines of this "spinoff" is considered canon.
 
People calling Alpha a spinoff are being delusional as hell now.

Prequels are NOT Spinoffs people.



So why is it that this "spin off" has been given much more importance than SF 3 , A supposed "Mainline" game.

Also why is it Capcom invested a lot more time and money on a "spinoff" franchise.

And Why is it that multiple plot lines of this "spinoff" is considered canon.
Because I really want Alex
 
So what exactly goes wrong if Alex and Urien pop up in the top row over there. Near Ryu and Ken.

SSF4 also had a similar layout. Notice how the SF 3 characters are just bunched up.

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It doesnt HAVE to be a perfect rectangle or something.
They already drew out the boxes for us tho
 
People calling Alpha a spinoff are being delusional as hell now.

Prequels are NOT Spinoffs people.
Of course they can be spin-offs. Better call Saul is a spin-off and prequel to Breaking bad as one example.


So why is it that this "spin off" has been given much more importance than SF 3 , A supposed "Mainline" game.

Also why is it Capcom invested a lot more time and money on a "spinoff" franchise.

And Why is it that multiple plot lines of this "spinoff" is considered canon.

Because the spin-off franchise became just as popular as the main games. It happens a lot in entertainment. It's a sub-series in the SF games, that's not a negative or a positive, but it is a series that is a spin-off of the main games


Because I really want Alex

Nah, Alex sorta sucks.
 
Of course they can be spin-offs. Better call Saul is a spin-off and prequel to Breaking bad as one example.
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That does not address how the core story/plot from Alpha has carried over to 4 and 5.

In Alpha 2 , Charlie was betrayed by his own men and fell off a waterfall.
This was Referenced in SF 4 and going to be a part of SF 5

Ryu,Ken,Akuma,Goukens the CORE "Satsui no hado" story was made in Alpha. Which follows unto SF 4 ,5.

Cammy losing her brainwashing? Explained in Alpha.

Almost 70% of SF story was in Alpha , dont you think thats waay too much for a spinoff?

This is not a spiritual prequel or anything that takes place in a far off timeline , it is very much a mainline prequel. If anything SF 3 is the one that can be considered a spinoff since its story is set like years after SF. And theres hardly anything linking them. Up until now in SF V.
 
Yeah, no. Oro is probably the worst, then Chun (or vice-versa, depending on who you ask). Yun and Yang are much worse than Ken, too, as is Makoto/Makneto. I would even say Hugo is harder than Ken because his command grabs and normals are just flat out better than Alex's.

As for Ken, outside of his million ways to land Shippu, there isn't a whole lot he does that is a major threat.
So you don't know what you're talking about. Ok gonna stop replying now.
 
That does not address how the story/plot from Alpha has carried over to 4 and 5.

In Alpha 2 , Charlie was betrayed by his own men and fell off a waterfall.
This was Referenced in SF 4 and going to be a part of SF 5

Ryu,Ken,Akuma,Goukens the CORE "Satsui no hado" story was made in Alpha. Which follows unto SF 4.

Cammy losing her brainwashing? Explained in Alpha.


Almost 70% of SF story was in Alpha , dont you think thats waay too much for a spinoff?
No, like the example I gave of Better Call Saul, it's on track to reveal details for like 50% of the main cast that weren't explained or examined in the main series. A story can be a spin-off/side project an massively influence the main title.
 
No, like the example I gave of Better Call Saul, it's on track to reveal details for like 50% of the main cast that weren't explained or examined in the main series. A story can be a spin-off/side project an massively influence the main title.

I havent seen Better Call Saul so I cant comment. But the example you gave doesnt even share the same name.

If SF Alpha was called something like just Warriors Dreams or something , then you have a point.

In fact SF 3 was originally going to be called just SF : A new generation.
 
No, like the example I gave of Better Call Saul, it's on track to reveal details for like 50% of the main cast that weren't explained or examined in the main series. A story can be a spin-off/side project an massively influence the main title.

Better call Saul isn't going to change breaking bad. Alpha story has changed canon in Street Fighter.
 
I'm not sure why alpha being labeled a spinoff or not matters. Besides a lot of the cannon lore that affects the story today came from the alpha series like Cammy being a clone of Bison vs his girlfriend, Charlie dying at Bison hands, Ryu and the Sadou no Hado, refreshes of SF1 characters like Gen, Cody, Guy, and the existence of Rose and how she connects to Bison psycho power.

Anyway, now that I typed on a smartphone, I'm going to say none of that shit matters. None of the story matters when choosing characters for the roster. This is Capcom we are talking about. You are thinking they are actually trying to limit themselves to so and so number for each sub series vs. This character can come back with a new moveset that really works with what we are trying to do.

TL:DR everyone is thinking too hard, enjoy the ride for what it is.
 
So what exactly goes wrong if Alex and Urien pop up in the top row over there. Near Ryu and Ken.

SSF4 also had a similar layout. Notice how the SF 3 characters are just bunched up.

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It doesnt HAVE to be a perfect rectangle or something.

its weird seeing an image you made like 7 years ago pop up somewhere lol
 
I havent seen Better Call Saul so I cant comment. But the example you gave doesnt even share the same name.
Then use Prometheus to the Alien universe or Angel for the Buffy universe then. They're spin-offs that are important to the canon of the universe.





Better call Saul isn't going to change breaking bad. Alpha story has changed canon in Street Fighter.
it won't chance Breaking Bad. In the same way Alpha didn't change SF2. The canon for the Breaking Bad universe is being expanded. It outs certain details in a different context and will inteoduce elements that weren't there in the previous entry but explains a lot for those interested.
 
it won't chance Breaking Bad. In the same way Alpha didn't change SF2. The canon for the Breaking Bad universe is being expanded. It outs certain details in a different context and will inteoduce elements that weren't there in the previous entry but explains a lot for those interested.
So are you saying that Bison made a clone of himself to fuck later on?
 
it won't chance Breaking Bad. In the same way Alpha didn't change SF2. The canon for the Breaking Bad universe is being expanded. It outs certain details in a different context and will inteoduce elements that weren't there in the previous entry but explains a lot for those interested.

Except it did , Alpha most definitely changed SF 2 story. And SF canon. SFs story is basically Alpha,SF 3 and SF 4. 1 and 2 dont have anything remotely coherent. Capcom never really planned anything for 2 anyway.

Alpha was the first title they started trying to make SOME coherent plot. If anything SF 1 and 2 would be considered spinoffs storywise because they barely add anything.


A spinoff is something that exists as its own entity while not affecting the main story. Just like prometheus and Angel.
 
This is what happens when we dont get reveals.

I dont think we can last any longer.

I'm more interested in Zen and Laura. I love that Alex and Urien are in, but doubt they'll be a character I'll main. *Maybe* Alex because honestly he might actually work a lot better in SFV than he did III. Anyways as of now I don't have a main, so Zen and Laura are my last hopes.

edit: It just hit me, is Alex anyhow connected to Guile through Tom? They both have a "flash" move, that sorta has the same graphical effect. Tom was also former military.
 
it won't chance Breaking Bad. In the same way Alpha didn't change SF2. The canon for the Breaking Bad universe is being expanded. It outs certain details in a different context and will inteoduce elements that weren't there in the previous entry but explains a lot for those interested.

It has changed it, though.
 
I'm more interested in Zen and Laura. I love that Alex and Urien are in, but doubt they'll be a character I'll main. *Maybe* Alex because honestly he might actually work a lot better in SFV than he did III. Anyways as of now I don't have a main, so Zen and Laura are my last hopes.

edit: It just hit me, is Alex anyhow connected to Guile? They both have a "flash" move, that sorta has the same graphical effect.
God, please no. Guile has enough supporting characters in his dumb soap opera
 
Those two spots are reserved for Zangief and Dhalsim. Urien can show up as DLC, but Alex has to go.
Not with a reliable leak explicitly saying Alex & Urien are coming (& the two being the first to be leaked). If they were DLC, Siliconera would have said so.
 
Zangief and Dhalsim would just be too lame as final reveals, like if they are in the game I'd expect them to be revealed already and hold off Karin and Mika, or at least Ken since his reveal was pretty hype.
 
Zangief and Dhalsim would just be too lame as final reveals, like if they are in the game I'd expect them to be revealed already and hold off Karin and Mika, or at least Ken since his reveal was pretty hype.
Agreed. I can understand revealing Karin at TGS regardless, but I'm pretty sure that they would have saved Rainbow Mika for near the end if we had Zangief & Dhalsim in the base roster (& had either of those two in Mika's place at PAX).
 
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