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Gaffers who don't care about this would freak the fuck out if it was a conservative.
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Government finds new emails Clinton did not hand over
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Gaffers who don't care about this would freak the fuck out if it was a conservative.
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That's some level of personal hatred
If she said she had no other emails to turn in while hiding one, she's lying. And the other question is what the address is used for.
Good thing she never announced that. She handed over what was stored on her server. She used BIS for the first few months (and despite this article's claims, using the clintonemail.com domain does not contradict that)
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
Everyone does remember that Hilary has debated Biden numerous times right - and was clearly the winner in those debates? Back in 2008 when both were running?
Nah, I'd rather focus on actual fuckery. Those ten emails would have to be pretty damning for me to care.
ElectricKaibutsu
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I'll wait for them to find something actually condemning before getting worked up about it.
A leading republican candidate, Bush, accidently released personal and private information via email for thousands of citizens without their consent.
Number of fucks given = 0.
So please don't try and play the 'all sides are equal' thing here. One person did do something demonstrably wrong and zero happened as a result, one person did the same thing many other secretaries have done only this time for some reason it's 'a thing'.
Dude Abides
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Which email has the truth about Vince Foster?
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JHoNNy1OoO
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Unless it can be proven by some type of message from her to her aides to delete this specific email or that specific email so the authorities don't see it, there is still nothing. So Clinton missed giving them 5-10 even a 100 emails from 10's of thousands she handed over. NOBODY is going to give a shit unless there are actual ramifications from them.
Show me something of value. In order for this to matter to me specifically, I'd have to hear that not only did Clinton have Classified info that was Classified at the time but that someone hacked her server AND used the emails to deal some type of damage to the US or its Allies. So far, that hasn't been the case.
We can play the what ifs and she should'ves till the cows come home. So far she has broken no laws and her emails didn't cause harm to anyone.
Have you actually looked at the candidates on the other side? You think Democrats would change their vote to Republican for any of those candidates?
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There were tons of ducks on gaf because some of those emails had people's SS#
PezDispenser
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Jesus Christ at the level of denial in this thread, it's almost certainly a result of the extreme polarization in American politics. God knows gaf loves to tear any republican down for the tiniest thing... If Hillary were one I'm sure this thread would be completely different. Fucking shameful.
Bear Force One
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Like Chris Christie?
http://www.wnyc.org/story/christie-sent-government-emails-private-account/
or Jeb Bush?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7fae16-ca49-11e4-b2a1-bed1aaea2816_story.html
or Sarah Palin?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-mail-account/2011/06/11/AGc3ahQH_story.html
or Perry?
https://www.texastribune.org/2015/03/04/perry-faces-transparency-questions-after-clinton-r/
or Rubio?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary...ivals-used-personal-email-accounts-1426205325
or Walker?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/07/30/scott-walker-emails/30780139/
what about past SoS?
like Powell
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-personal-email-secretary-of-state-115707
so no, we wouldn't care if it was someone else either
Kind of a platitude, really. "Fucking shameful" indeed.
Just to recap:
1. Hillary started using private email server, just like her predecessor, before a recommendation came out for people to use official email account.
2. There were emails in the said server clearly saying they can't send documents to email account because the documents were classified.
3. The said classified documents found on her email server were done retroactively.
Sorry, I simply do not feel there is a big issue here.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...10/hillary-clintons-emails-classified-or-not/
If there is an issue, it's how documents being classified are handled, not Hillary using an email server.
1. Hillary started using private email server, just like her predecessor, before a recommendation came out for people to use official email account.
2. There were emails in the said server clearly saying they can't send documents to email account because the documents were classified.
3. The said classified documents found on her email server were done retroactively.
Sorry, I simply do not feel there is a big issue here.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...10/hillary-clintons-emails-classified-or-not/
If there is an issue, it's how documents being classified are handled, not Hillary using an email server.
Colin Powell did the exact same thing, these servers are vetted by the FBI (NSA? Can't remember which) first, and the emails weren't even considered classified until after the fact.
Miles Quaritch
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Rebel, I mean Liberal scum.
Don't bring facts in here. We on the right exist on believing everyone hates us and blows everything we do out of proportion.
Racist comments, homophobic comments, restricting women's rights to sexual health services and suggesting they aren't in control of their bodies? Wouldn't be a big deal on if someone on the left said those things, but someone on the right says? Lawd, the world is ablaze with righteous indignation,
Get out of your liberal bubble and see the world for what it is. It's PC culture gone mad.
Do you even know what Watergate was about?
Bear Force One
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No probably not. Hilariously bad example though.
Yes because forgetting 10 emails out of a string of tens of thousands in a meaningless scandal where she did the same thing her predecessor did is the same as Watergate.
Oh, you got us. How will we live with this shame.
Can someone please please please explain this to me:
Why in the world did they think it would be a good idea to use this email-system?
*This is clearly wrongful and they knew this!
*They knew she would be a president candidate so why risk that by doing this? She even quit the job to prepare for the 2016 election!!!
*What was the pros of doing it this way? Being marginally better at being secretary of state? If thats the only reason, was that really worth risking loosing the presidency or at-least risking it? If there was other things on that email account? Why not just have several email accounts?
*Why in the world one anyone believe exactly all the emails was handed out? Does this whole thing not scream "Lets pick out all the sensitive emails before handing them over"?
*If you have nothing to hide, dont act like you have something to hide! Politics 101...geez
*This is so stupid i cannot fathom
Why in the world did they think it would be a good idea to use this email-system?
*This is clearly wrongful and they knew this!
*They knew she would be a president candidate so why risk that by doing this? She even quit the job to prepare for the 2016 election!!!
*What was the pros of doing it this way? Being marginally better at being secretary of state? If thats the only reason, was that really worth risking loosing the presidency or at-least risking it? If there was other things on that email account? Why not just have several email accounts?
*Why in the world one anyone believe exactly all the emails was handed out? Does this whole thing not scream "Lets pick out all the sensitive emails before handing them over"?
*If you have nothing to hide, dont act like you have something to hide! Politics 101...geez
*This is so stupid i cannot fathom
Because misusing a private email address is the same as a break in to an opposition parties headquarters...
I don't get why she didn't hand these over, I don't think it's a big deal but her opponents are going to blow this up in her face.
I'd imagine the vast vast majority of conversations between government officials is done off the record.
Lol. Yep, exactly the same thing.
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dehydratedbabies
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Fetch is not going to happen.
Because this was standard practice at the time, and had been done by numerous previous secretaries?
This wasn't a weird, peculiar risk or mistake by Clinton. Its what lots of people did, and it's *only* a thing becusse it's Clinton.
I think the real question is to what is contained in the emails. Do they contain information regarding genetically modified humans being tested at Area 51 or just some old bill propositions that can't be made public because they weren't final yet? Or maybe even some "hey, want to lunch at 1 pm? see you there, xxx hillary"?
I'm mostly thinking it's of the latter types, just because of the sheer numbers of emails involved. I don't think this 'email scandal' give us any information on how she take stances on topics that are important to American citizens or how she will deal when being a president. I do not think it will impact her position as a presidential candidate at all. It's her political views that matter to us, not which server she uses to send her emails.
I'm mostly thinking it's of the latter types, just because of the sheer numbers of emails involved. I don't think this 'email scandal' give us any information on how she take stances on topics that are important to American citizens or how she will deal when being a president. I do not think it will impact her position as a presidential candidate at all. It's her political views that matter to us, not which server she uses to send her emails.
Wtf really? Then i truly dont see a problem with it...Seems like a storm in a bottle then...
entremet
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Don't forget what happened to her husband. Nothing new here.
Bear Force One
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Not going to be a ripple in the pond.
While were at it. What is the purpose of the Clinton Foundation?
Why would the Clintons go about risking their political career by having a shady charity foundation?
I mean, they are not making money out of it right?
It seems just like a platform for politicians and business leaders around the world to meet?
So why would they go on creating that?
What are they exactly getting out of it?
Why would the Clintons go about risking their political career by having a shady charity foundation?
I mean, they are not making money out of it right?
It seems just like a platform for politicians and business leaders around the world to meet?
So why would they go on creating that?
What are they exactly getting out of it?
And yet the guy who took America to war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, based on lies and propaganda, which cost trillions of dollars of tax payer money, led to the loss of thousands of innocent American and Iraqi lives, and destabilised an entire region, somehow goes on unflinched? I mean, is mass murder perpetuated through an illegal war really less of a scandal than adultery?
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