NipplesAndToes23
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You think it will be Street Fighter IV all over again?
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Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER
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You think it will be Street Fighter IV all over again?
Of course.
SolarPowered
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It will be worse than usual since everyone and their mother will want to try Ken after the redesign. This will still be a fresh game if Urien and Alex are coming in, though. Between those two, Karin, Mika, Birdie and Nash the roster looks more diverse than ever for a mainline SF.
It's going to be Ken Fighter 5.
In Rashid build, Mika was ridiculously good..
Drop kick with massive range that is + (if charged a few frames), goes over lows and low mids, crush counter
Step kick (think guiles jump kick just faster), that is airborn, crushes lows and might be + on block
3 frame jabs (Pretty sure)
5 frame command throws
Easy confirms in to big damage
Massive range on ex command throw (bacdashed away and got grabbed after dash)
Ex rekka that has armor and is safe or close to safe after second hit
Splash that can alter her jump arc (safe is meaty)
Sick anti air air throw (ex is crazy good)
Only her vskill was a little bad, but even that is useful in some matchups
Her vtrigger is nice, but noy as good as some others (at least before setups are found)
zedreamcast
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It's not more diverse than SF IV or SF2. It's about on par with 3rd strike so far if we're talking about fighting styles representation.
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Someone is getting the vanilla SG Cerebella treatment. Just give her an alt with the hair down and nickname her "The Goddess".
Dayum
I was never all that impressed by SFIV's initial roster and SF2 is an older (very susceptible to rose tinted glasses) that includes Blanka, Deejay and T.Hawk. I am really going to like SFV's roster if it does include Urien and Alex even if the blondes are out of control. There is a decent amount of alpha representation, 3S representation, SF2 representation and the new characters are looking better than SFIV's offerings.
Oh I forgot to say that the air throw is a huge flip that crosses over the opponent, so think hugo's heavy back breaker to escape corner, just faster and with less recovery...
Oh and her 3/4 frame far reaching chainable c. Lk is so low profiling that she is laying on the damn floor.. I do think she will be normalized haha
Oh and her 3/4 frame far reaching chainable c. Lk is so low profiling that she is laying on the damn floor.. I do think she will be normalized haha
I thought you were talking about playstyles. Since you aren't you're completely right.
zedreamcast
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Well so far we got 2 americans like sf2, one japanese man a 2 japanese women, a chinese woman, a spanish man, BISOOOOOON, an islander (i say islander since i dunno where necallis from) an arabic man, and 2 British people.
2 had 3 americans, 2 japanese men, a spanish man, a native american/ mexican, a tibeten man, a chinese woman a brazillian? Is blanka brazilian or was he just raised in brazil? An indian man, a jamacian man, one british woman, and BISOOOOOOOOON
Id say rheyre both pretty diverse
Really looking forward to playing Mika. I don't expect her to be close to top tier by the time the game releases, but I like playing grapplers and she looks like a ton of fun. She's probably gonna end up as my secondary.
If the game ends up moddable like 4 I want to see Birdie swapped in for Nadeshiko as Mika's assist. His redesign was made for flying peaches.
Exit: wait... is it "shooting peach?" Could've sworn it was "flying peach" in Alpha. Well, fuck me.
ShogunDarius
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In the future I hope guile gets added, for 2 reasons firstly a new updated version of his theme and secondly story mode and when he meets Nash
Necalli is Aztec.
ftfy.
sounds fantastic, really can't wait to play her
Stone Ocean
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EX Shooting Peach is safe? Holy moly that can't stay
Armor and safe is way too good.
THIS. I was like, wait, that's a LIGHT attack? With that range and speed? Plus it low profiles?!
The Metal Face
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There's no doubt in my mind that Mika is going to get nerfed, especially her safe armored ex move. Also there's a misconception about her dropkick. Whether its charged or not its never plus. Its safe in that she can always block after it but if she tries to press another button after it she'll just counter hit.
NipplesAndToes23
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Do characters have different amounts of health in this game?
Yes. I think in the beta Chun Li had lowest health.
I haven't seen any actual numbers, but if the character cards posted on the SF Twitter are anything to go by then yes.
Stone Ocean
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Chun had around 700 health from what I recall
Damage numbers were still somewhat in line with SF4, the high damage comes from everyone being Akuma/Seth now
It's really hard to say what's good in this game with stuff like Ryu's parry, Ken's run, the different V-Trigger power ups and who knows what's to come. I do want to see how far you can take the parries, though.
If this past year's EVO is any indication, Infiltration might wind up with like 7 pocket troll picks...
NoctisVsStar
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Ryu and Ken are like 1a and 1b among popularity. I've been playing Ken since the sega genesis days I remember being worried he wasn't going to make the roster ;_; but based Ono delivered. So yeah the ken army will be there making Verendus go nuts.
Off topic I want a evil dlc package Akuma and Juri.
I think Charlie had the lowest health, iirc. Vesper arcade did an analysis.
Too early to predict, IMO. In the early going though I could see there predominately being a lot of Ryu, Ken, and Cammy because they're familiar and always strong.
NoctisVsStar
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Kinda early but I wouldn't be surprised if justin goes for birdie or one of the new characters. He got a habit of choosing odd characters. He doesn't go for the top tier outside of 3s chun.
I only know of Eventhubs who tried to check out the health. Would be neat if you could link to the vesper arcade vid.
If the game really is as "basic" or whatever some players called it, then this could be an option for many top players.
Whenever I mashed throw after blocking the drop kick, I would get thrown by R mika. I won't rule out the possibility that I messed up, but I played like 100 games against R mika and always lost after blocking the drop kick, either when trying to mash jab or throw.
Re: basic, that reminds me of a post I forgot to respond to a few days ago. Someone described Birdie as "gimmicky." I get what they meant, but really I perceive all characters as individually more gimmicky than in 3 and 4. What I mean is that the former had a strong universal mechanic in parrying while the latter had one in focus attacks. These were used similarly regardless of character selection and their mastery was essential for high level play.
In V, the inputs for mechanics are similar between characters but their uses are very different. V-reversals, skills, and trigger are all situationally variable from one another. To me, that makes for a much more interesting game.
And that isn't to knock III because parries are pretty fucking awesome.
Not a big fan of focus attacks, though.
I want to see Justin Wong say that whoever Gamerbee picks is like one of the worst characters in the game.
And then GB would master the character and destroy Justin when he settles for the inevitable divekick char.
Alex, total grappler
V-Skill: Some kind of move with huge stun (Headbutt?)
V-Trigger: An improved version of Spiral D.D.T. (very fast jump+grab in the ground, should work on crouching opponents)
C-A: Hyper Bomb
Urien
V-Skill: I really don't know, but something to charge his V meter fast to gain access to
V-Trigger: Aegis Reflector
C-A: Tyrant Punish
ScraftyDevil
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Alex:
V-Skill: Air Stampede (gotta give him some way to deal with projectiles; you could control the range by holding back or forward)
V-Trigger: Stungun Headbutt ("move" V-Trigger similar to Vega's. A grab that causes a massive amount of stun)
Critical Art: Hyper Bomb (We've yet to have a true grab CA yet and Hyper Bomb's hella iconic)
Urien:
V-Skill: His ground pound taunt from 3S; creates a pillar of fire that works as a makeshift DP and powers up his next special on hit
V-Trigger: Aegis Reflector (no reasoning necessary)
Critical Art: Temporal Thunder (a projectile CA would make his moveset more versatile overall)
zedreamcast
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Mikas CA is a grab if i remember correctly.
ScraftyDevil
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Bobby Roberts
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It's not really being nerfed if the game is still in beta. I mean, it won't be officially released for another few months. It's technically not even a completed game yet. It's hard to call balancing the characters pre-release "nerfing," really.
touche..good point.
The game isn't even released!
SolidSnakex
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Yeah, they've said that ideally the only time they'll nerf a character is if something about them is broken. Otherwise they'll focus more on making other characters better rather than pulling one specific character backwards.
Some games allow you to combo into grabs.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Brah, I was joking around.
Before Oct 10th? I know that we suppose to hear something about Laura on October 8th. That would be very interesting if Capcom representative is right about it. If your source is correct, then we might hear something on Oct 2nd.
Oct 2nd > Oct 8th > Oct 10th. That really sound like a LOT of information in two weeks. We will see about that.
Hmmm. I'm going with my zero expectation for now.
Thank you so much for those informations! I hope that they wouldn't nerf Rainbow Mika that much in final product!
It would be nice to have a viable grappler that I would like to use.- Status