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[Hours Left]

With Necalli in the game, I don't expect to ever see Hawk in. He even stole his chokeslam!

I'm not actually expecting T. Hawk here, at least not now, but I don't think move similarities are gonna be a reason for exclusion going forward. When the roster starts expanding, it's inevitable. T. Hawk will get his day in the sun again.

This is most likely Urien, if anyone IMO.

 

[CoyoteSpitfire]

T. Hawk Reveal?

He was my main in USF4 and even I would be disappointed.

 

[Shadow_Lord]

You already get V-gauge from loosing HP, so that's be pretty worthless.

Maybe instead of health, it could be super meter for V-Gauge.

 

[histopher]

I'm not actually expecting T. Hawk here, at least not now, but I don't think move similarities are gonna be a reason for exclusion going forward. When the roster starts expanding, it's inevitable. T. Hawk will get his day in the sun again.

This is most likely Urien, if anyone IMO.

I actually enjoyed playing as Hawk in SF4, nearly was my secondary character but unless they have added nearly every other character as DLC first I dont think he is needed.

 

[kirblar]

I'm not actually expecting T. Hawk here, at least not now, but I don't think move similarities are gonna be a reason for exclusion going forward. When the roster starts expanding, it's inevitable. T. Hawk will get his day in the sun again.

This is most likely Urien, if anyone IMO.

It's not, but this is more than just tiny ones- they're both Native Americans from Mexico, they both have a tomahawk and a 360 chokeslam. Necalli's essentially a re-done non-cartoony T.Hawk.

 

[papertoonz]

Think they'll do a lot of newcomer DLCs? I hope they just don't fall back on regulars for the majority of it to sell the DLC.

I'm sure there will be newcomer DLC but don't be surprised if most of it's old characters

 

[Ferrio]

Maybe instead of health, it could be super meter for V-Gauge.

If it has a quick animation I could see that being an interesting mechanic. Balancing between whether you want to use your EX moves or v-trigger more mattering on the matchup etc. The v-trigger would have to be repeatable and powerful ability like aegis reflector.

 

[Hours Left]

I actually enjoyed playing as Hawk in SF4, nearly was my secondary character but unless they have added nearly every other character as DLC first I dont think he is needed.

I wouldn't put him that far down the list. I want the focus to be on characters missing from SFIV initially too, but once we start getting deep into the returning characters, I'm hoping he's one of the first.

I personally don't think Necalli is that similar to Hawk, (especially if we don't take Omega mode into account) so I think his presence would fill a gap. His playstyle is pretty unique and something that deserves to be expanded upon, and he's in desperate need of a makeover, something they've been largely successful with in SFV so far.

It's not, but this is more than just tiny ones- they're both Native Americans from Mexico, they both have a tomahawk and a 360 chokeslam. Necalli's essentially a re-done non-cartoony T.Hawk.

Necalli isn't from Mexico. We don't know where he's from. We don't even know his ethnicity.

And two moves shared doesn't equate the same character.

 

[GorillaJu]

For me, T Hawk feels really far down the list of characters Capcom would be prioritizing right now. But maybe it's because I just don't really like T Hawk.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

I main Tony Hawk and I still don't want him back (for a while, at least). Mika fills the niche of tricky tick throw grappler right now, and as people have mentioned, Necalli (or at least non-charge Necalli)'s main three specials are basically Condor Spire/Tomahawk Buster/a less-good Mexican Typhoon, with his divekick even acting as a sort of Condor Dive-esque move. I enjoy playing Tony, but he's far from deserving of making it into SFV early in its lifespan.

 

[KidA Seven]

Necalli isn't from Mexico. We don't know where he's from. We don't even know his ethnicity.

And two moves shared doesn't equate the same character.

His name is of Aztec origin. Even Matt Dahlgren said he was an Aztec warrior.

https://youtu.be/A2v-8UdSwfQ?t=6m41s

 

[Hours Left]

His name is of Aztec origin. Even Matt Dahlgren said he was an Aztec warrior.

https://youtu.be/A2v-8UdSwfQ?t=6m41s

I get he's Aztec inspired, but he isn't Aztec. He's light skinned, his stage is in New Zealand, his origin is "unknown". He's an amalgamation of different things to be mysterious and cool.

If they want to clarify things more, I'd welcome that.

 

[GorillaJu]

He is definitely pale but his skin isn't light-skinned like a white person, it's got a different hue, like someone who should be darker skinned but is very pale for external reasons. He's definitely Aztec, or at least intended to be.

 

[Hours Left]

He is definitely pale but his skin isn't light-skinned like a white person, it's got a different hue, like someone who should be darker skinned but is very pale for external reasons. He's definitely Aztec, or at least intended to be.

That's all speculation though. If that's supposed to be the case, then why isn't Capcom saying he's from Mexico? (Or Central America even.) If they want a true Aztec warrior, just go for it, don't dance around it.

They've made a point of not saying his origin, so rather he comes from somewhere else, or they're being needlessly obtuse.

 

[Zissou]

would it be horrible if someone had a v-skill that allowed them to sacrifice some HP for some v-gauge? maybe on top of another effect? I'd be happy to do that for a powerful v-trigger like aegis lol

Everyone already access to this ability via blocking with their face, no?

Well she is a fav of Ono and being a grappler Fiend likes her as well.

Also see MvC3 main of Shulkie.

Ono likes Blanka but he was ass-tier in IV for a long time.

 

[KingBroly]

Think they'll do a lot of newcomer DLCs? I hope they just don't fall back on regulars for the majority of it to sell the DLC.

No, not really. DLC isn't really for newcomers. It's for milking those playing the game already, so you want to hit a nostalgia cord with characters not already in the game

 

[GorillaJu]

That's all speculation though. If that's supposed to be the case, then why isn't Capcom saying he's from Mexico? (Or Central America even.) If they want a true Aztec warrior, just go for it,
don't dance around it.

They've made a point of not saying his origin, so rather he comes from somewhere else, or they're being needlessly obtuse.

I dunno, maybe they just feel weird saying a character from an ancient culture that predates Mexico is from Mexico? He's not Mexican, he's Aztec. That'd be my guess. I wouldn't say a Native American was from the USA or Canadian.

Also it could be like he was created in a Shadowloo facility using the soul of an ancient Aztec warrior and the body of someone else. I still don't see why that doesn't make him Aztec, for all intents and purposes.

 

[Hours Left]

I dunno, maybe they just feel weird saying a character from an ancient culture that predates Mexico is from Mexico? He's not Mexican, he's Aztec. That'd be my guess. I wouldn't say a Native American was from the USA or Canadian.

But bringing it back to T. Hawk, he's Native American, and they list his nationality as Mexican. It's most likely a case of just throwing things together they like without having to tie it down to a specific region. They did the exact same thing with M. Bison.

He's supposed to play a big part in the story, so we'll (hopefully) see why there's all the secrecy.

 

[KidA Seven]

I get he's Aztec inspired, but he isn't Aztec. He's light skinned, his stage is in New Zealand, his origin is "unknown". He's an amalgamation of different things to be mysterious and cool.

If they want to clarify things more, I'd welcome that.

Okay, Necalli means Battle in Aztec. Matt says they wanted an Aztec warrior. His clothes relate to the Aztecs. What more do you want? That's like saying Urien and Gill aren't Greek because they have stages in Egypt and in Urien's case, also has Mexico as his stage. The fact is that ancient Greeks, for a brief period, wore thongs when competing in athletics and their fighting style resembles pankration along with Pillar men influences.

BTW, his stage isn't New Zealand. They never said so. New Zealand is associated with Illuminati, but we don't know if Necalli is associated with the Illuminati. We won't know until they tell us. In the blog, they never said that place was New Zealand, just that it was inspired by New Zealand. Two can play that game breh.

 

[I-hate-u]

I figure it's the same with Bison. We all know he is Thai but Capcom never tried to him to a real region.

 

[MoxManiac]

Wasn't THawk originally from the US then Bison stole his land?

 

[GorillaJu]

But bringing it back to T. Hawk, he's Native American, and they list his nationality as Mexican. It's most likely a case of just throwing things together they like without having to tie it down to a specific region. They did the exact same thing with M. Bison.

He's supposed to play a big part in the story, so we'll (hopefully) see why there's all the secrecy.

Yeah but T Hawk is a descendent of Native Americans who is actually from Mexico, isn't he? That's different from someone who is actually from a different time period and was reawakened through supernatural means.

But whatever I'm just talking for the sake of talking, I'm sure we'll find out later.

 

[Elixist]

No, not really. DLC isn't really for newcomers. It's for milking those playing the game already, so you want to hit a nostalgia cord with characters not already in the game

not always true. leagues does an original character everytime and its numbers are doing ok

 

[Lulubop]

Dude Matt flat out says he's Aztec, not Aztec inspired. Aztec

 

[zedreamcast]

So far all the characters have had 2-4 pips to get V trigger what if Uriens ia only 1 pip? Thatd be cool. Though isnt rashids V trigger similar to Aegis Reflector in terms of use...well so is yoga chatastrophe and decapres ultra 1 i guess its not a super weird move but having two characters with the same v trigger is weird.

 

[Hours Left]

Okay, Necalli means Battle in Aztec. Matt says they wanted an Aztec warrior. His clothes relate to the Aztecs. What more do you want? That's like saying Urien and Gill aren't Greek because they have stages in Egypt and in Urien's case, also has Mexico as his stage. The fact is that ancient Greeks, for a brief period, wore thongs when competing in athletics and their fighting style resembles pankration along with Pillar men influences.

BTW, his stage isn't New Zealand. They never said so. New Zealand is associated with Illuminati, but we don't know if Necalli is associated with the Illuminati. We won't know until they tell us. In the blog, they never said that place was New Zealand, just that it was inspired by New Zealand. Two can play that game breh.

I already said above that it's obvious he is Aztec inspired. Capcom loves to be obfuscate the origins of their mysterious deity characters, and this is another example of that.

I'm saying, if he's supposed to be Aztec, then they should make a direct reference to this in the game. As it stands now, his origin per the game is "unknown". What would be the point of saying this unless there's some other aspect to it?

 

[OmegaSmash]

Necalli shares the chokeslam, Condor Spire and Tomahawk Buster with T.Hawk.

 

[pizzacat]

Wasn't THawk originally from the US then Bison stole his land?

lol every lore thing I hear of bison make me like him more as a 1920s villain

 

[Clawww]

Awww yeah.



Everyone already access to this ability via blocking with their face, no?

eh, it's not really the same thing. wouldn't be an exciting v-skill, but I like tactics like that personally

 

[Skilletor]

I only know of Eventhubs who tried to check out the health. Would be neat if you could link to the vesper arcade vid.

You're probably right, I must be remembering wrong.

 

[zedreamcast]

lol every lore thing I hear of bison make me like him more as a 1920s villain

Bison is the beat SF villian and hes great. Still wanna know why his good side is a sexy woman.

 

[Mizerman]

Wasn't THawk originally from the US then Bison stole his land?

After killing T Hawk's father as well.

...Bison sure loves to kill fathers, doesn't he?

 

[zedreamcast]

After killing T Hawk's father as well.

...Bison sure loves to kill fathers, doesn't he?

always with the fathers.

 

[histopher]

Bison is the beat SF villian and hes great. Still wanna know why his good side is a sexy woman.

Rose wilĺ hopefully return. Her SFIV model was trash so it will be good to see her looking like she should.

 

[Mr Touchdown]

Urien and Gill are Aztec because they are the Pillar Men from Jojo.

Or Greek because they got that whole Adonis look going on.

But, "Crazy Chilli Dog" and the fact his 3rd strike stage seems to be set in Mexico... these guys are confusing.

 

[zedreamcast]

Urien and Gill are Aztec because they are the Pillar Men from Jojo.

Or Greek because they got that whole Adonis look going on.

But, "Crazy Chilli Dog" and the fact his 3rd strike stage seems to be set in Mexico... these guys are confusing.

His 2nd impact stage is Egypt. Theyre both illuminati bases.

 

[Clawww]

The takeaway is that if they say urien is Mexican or associate him with Mexico, it wouldn't be dumb or implausible. I doubt they would do three reveals so soon, but we don't really know their reveal plans or what other stuff they have to show off after the roster is known. They might also weigh the idea of global reveals more heavily than spacing out the reveals. It'd be a hell of a week though that's for sure. That said I'm sure non character stuff will be just as if not more exciting, since solid features will shape the game and its sales quite a bit.

 

[Shackzam]

I was trying to figure out where urien's third strike stage was located and the closes thing I got was somewhere in Mexico, but nothing really concrete confirming it was located there.

 

[Clawww]

Has ono teased for a stage event/panel without a reveal yet? This last pic wasn't even an obfuscated gameplay, though. Idk

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

I was trying to figure out where urien's third strike stage was located and the closes thing I got was somewhere in Mexico, but nothing really concrete confirming it was located there.

Stage select says its Mexico

 

[Shackzam]

Stage select says its Mexico

Cool, glad someone could confirm this.

 

[Kain]

Necalli is Gill brahs

 

[Clawww]

Even if he isn't revealed or in the game at all, there's value in assigning him to Mexico and making up for Fuerte... Hawk shouldn't have been from there in the first place

 

[Yaqoub]

Man, Urien with that suit alternate costume would be cool.

Imagine doing the reverse 3rd Strike intro where he actually dresses up XD

I really hope they bring back his Aegis Reflector if they bring Urien back. Do the right thing, Capcom. RX would be fun to watch again.

 

[I-hate-u]

Necalli is Gill brahs

Necalli represents Gill's red right side, and obviously Zen, will represent his left blue side. Both will do the fusion dance and form Super Gill, the final boss of SFV.

 

[Mr Touchdown]

Necalli represents Gill's red right side, and obviously Zen, will represent his left blue side. Both will do the fusion dance and form Super Gill, the final boss of SFV.

This would be really dumb, but goddamn I love dumb.

 

[ShogunDarius]

So we have a Character Reveal in Mexico coming next and Urien's stage is Mexico, plus the Siliconera leak saying Urien is coming.
Laura is at Brazil and Alex to be at NYCC as we gathered before.
At this rate I expect Zen at PGW.

 

[Producer]

At most there will be a stage reveal for mexico, imo

 

[Lulubop]

at most there will be a stage reveal for mexico, imo

Agreed. Necalli's stage if anything. Maybe a temple.

 

[Captainbob]

Urien and Gill are Aztec because they are the Pillar Men from Jojo.

Or Greek because they got that whole Adonis look going on.

But, "Crazy Chilli Dog" and the fact his 3rd strike stage seems to be set in Mexico... these guys are confusing.

By the way it's pointless searching for Urien and Gill origin, since in SF3 they are purposely given none. The point being they are part of the Illuminati, which is a worldwide thousand-year-old organization renowned for its influence on ancient civilizations. In SF3 they are basically a fictionalized version of our already fictionalized 'real world' vision of The Illuminati.
That's why they are tied to those ancient civilizations, Mesopotamian, Greek, Egyptian, Aztec etc. And that's why they have stages related to those civilizations, it has nothing to do with their birthplace.
That said, Capcom could reveal Urien in Mexico for the above reasons.

However Ono actually didnt tease any reveal, I may be wrong but I think that for every previous one he teased an announcement, whether it be with a picture or simply text. For now he only teased an autograph session, which could simply be part of his South America trip, which will bring him to Brazil Game show character reveal.