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SPOILER: Metal Gear Solid V Spoiler Thread | Such a lust for conclusion, T-WHHOOOO

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Neiteio said:
Here's my temporary take until we figure this out:

Kaz knows that Skull Face works for Zero. So even though Zero said in the tape that Skull Face went rogue (albeit he didn't identify him by name), Kaz might still blame Zero for what happened. Like they say: The shit falls from the top of the tree.


Yeah, that would've been awesome, especially if they worked it into gameplay, i.e. you open the shower stall and Skull Face is inside.
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fuck man imagine going to hand shit in to paz and skullface walks out from behind the door

also:

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I feel like MGSV is the ultimate 'what could have been' game for me in a long time, which is bizarre because the only game I've put more time into in the past two or three years has probably been splatoon and maybe bayonetta 1
 
People have claimed that every thing done in this game is Kojima doing it intentionally.

Game's incomplete? it's a phantom pain!

Most of the game's story is in the tapes? Kojima was trying to involve you more in the story.

Quiet is fucking the rain? Kojima is such a genius that he's trolling people who don't like Quiet because of their prudish puritan values. God bless you, Kojima-sama.
 
I want to play Metal Gear Solid : Skull Eater. Spending hours in the jungle with a mop and bucket, bagging the tiny dismembered pieces of flesh of each Cobra Unit member. What a thrill! Someday you step in entrails. And someday you feed on Snake's leftover tree frog.


ZERO: Skull Face! Do you read me? I have wonderful news. It's Snake!
SKULL FACE: Is he dead yet? Can I take over the mission?
ZERO: No, of course not, but he's only gone and bloody caught a Tsuchinko. The man's a legend. He's left it in a cage 2 miles north of here. I need you to pick it up and bring it home.
SKULL FACE: I'm literally covered in The Fear. That's right, the dude just launched himself into the sky and exploded all over me. I've spent the last few hours cleaning all his shit up, fucking magazines just randomly left all over the jungle, and now you want me to pick up a fucking snake? WHY AM I EVEN HERE? I HAVE THE FEAR'S BALLS DRIPPING DOWN MY FACE!
ZERO: You're a real man now, soldier. We need you to assist Snake. This is a clean-up operation and no-one must know that you or Snake where ever here. Now, tell me, where are we up to with those Kerotan Frogs?
SKULL FACE: I hate you, Major.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
People have claimed that every thing done in this game is Kojima doing it intentionally.

Game's incomplete? it's a phantom pain!

Most of the game's story is in the tapes? Kojima was trying to involve you more in the story.

Quiet is fucking the rain? Kojima is such a genius that he's trolling people who don't like Quiet because of their prudish puritan values. God bless you, Kojima-sama.
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if only all game developers were half the auteurs kojima is, this industry would be better
 
honestly if this game had been 'big boss collects the foxhound babies' game i think i would have enjoyed it storywise a bit more
 
I think the following Japanese developers actually do sometimes fuck with their games to make points:

- Hideki Kamiya
- Hideo Kojima
- Hidetaka Miyazaki
- Fumito Ueda

I think the following Japanese developers also make mistakes and run into resource problems where things in their games are just bad:


- Hideki Kamiya
- Hideo Kojima
- Hidetaka Miyazaki
- Fumito Ueda
- EVERY DEVELOPER REGARDLESS OF RACE OR EXPERIENCE
 
Jintor said:
honestly if this game had been 'big boss collects the foxhound babies' game i think i would have enjoyed it storywise a bit more
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I want a recreation of that scene from the start of Heavy Rain where Ethan swings his son by the arms, only this time it's BB and Solid and he lets go and Solid crashes into the tree and BB says "tough love you lil' shit"
 
PedroPanache said:
I want to play Metal Gear Solid : Skull Eater. Spending hours in the jungle with a mop and bucket, bagging the tiny dismembered pieces of flesh of each Cobra Unit member. What a thrill! Someday you step in entrails. And someday you feed on Snake's leftover tree frog.


ZERO: Skull Face! Do you read me? I have wonderful news. It's Snake!
SKULL FACE: Is he dead yet? Can I take over the mission?
ZERO: No, of course not, but he's only gone and bloody caught a Tsuchinko. The man's a legend. He's left it in a cage 2 miles north of here. I need you to pick it up and bring it home.
SKULL FACE: I'm literally covered in The Fear. That's right, the dude just launched himself into the sky and exploded all over me. I've spent the last few hours cleaning all his shit up, fucking magazines just randomly left all over the jungle, and now you want me to pick up a fucking snake? WHY AM I EVEN HERE? I HAVE THE FEAR'S BALLS DRIPPING DOWN MY FACE!
ZERO: You're a real man now, soldier. We need you to assist Snake. This is a clean-up operation and no-one must know that you or Snake where ever here. Now, tell me, where are we up to with those Kerotan Frogs?
SKULL FACE: I hate you, Major.
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I love this. You had me at the Fear's balls dripping down his face.
 
what i don't get is why zero got a dude with a very visibly scarred face to the point where he obviously looks like a skull to be his fucking super secret agent team

like, secret even from his regular secret agent team!

"Did you see the guy with the skull face?"
"Yeah I think he's like the janitor or something"
"Oh i guess that makes sense. He's way too visible to be a secret agent."

Double bluff!
 
Jintor said:
what i don't get is why zero got a dude with a very visibly scarred face to the point where he obviously looks like a skull to be his fucking super secret agent team
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He's a huge James Bond fanboy and it probably struck him

There's no evidence whatsoever that Zero is any good at his job
 
Jintor said:
at ultimate demon you just get paz's head sticking out of yours
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Ito would've been perfect. I know he was only on Silent Hills, but man. He could've made MGSV great.

PedroPanache said:
I want to play Metal Gear Solid : Skull Eater. Spending hours in the jungle with a mop and bucket, bagging the tiny dismembered pieces of flesh of each Cobra Unit member. What a thrill! Someday you step in entrails. And someday you feed on Snake's leftover tree frog.


ZERO: Skull Face! Do you read me? I have wonderful news. It's Snake!
SKULL FACE: Is he dead yet? Can I take over the mission?
ZERO: No, of course not, but he's only gone and bloody caught a Tsuchinko. The man's a legend. He's left it in a cage 2 miles north of here. I need you to pick it up and bring it home.
SKULL FACE: I'm literally covered in The Fear. That's right, the dude just launched himself into the sky and exploded all over me. I've spent the last few hours cleaning all his shit up, fucking magazines just randomly left all over the jungle, and now you want me to pick up a fucking snake? WHY AM I EVEN HERE? I HAVE THE FEAR'S BALLS DRIPPING DOWN MY FACE!
ZERO: You're a real man now, soldier. We need you to assist Snake. This is a clean-up operation and no-one must know that you or Snake where ever here. Now, tell me, where are we up to with those Kerotan Frogs?
SKULL FACE: I hate you, Major.
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This is now canon.
 
PedroPanache said:
I want to play Metal Gear Solid : Skull Eater. Spending hours in the jungle with a mop and bucket, bagging the tiny dismembered pieces of flesh of each Cobra Unit member. What a thrill! Someday you step in entrails. And someday you feed on Snake's leftover tree frog.


ZERO: Skull Face! Do you read me? I have wonderful news. It's Snake!
SKULL FACE: Is he dead yet? Can I take over the mission?
ZERO: No, of course not, but he's only gone and bloody caught a Tsuchinko. The man's a legend. He's left it in a cage 2 miles north of here. I need you to pick it up and bring it home.
SKULL FACE: I'm literally covered in The Fear. That's right, the dude just launched himself into the sky and exploded all over me. I've spent the last few hours cleaning all his shit up, fucking magazines just randomly left all over the jungle, and now you want me to pick up a fucking snake? WHY AM I EVEN HERE? I HAVE THE FEAR'S BALLS DRIPPING DOWN MY FACE!
ZERO: You're a real man now, soldier. We need you to assist Snake. This is a clean-up operation and no-one must know that you or Snake where ever here. Now, tell me, where are we up to with those Kerotan Frogs?
SKULL FACE: I hate you, Major.
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lol

SKULL FACE: Major, Raikov just headed towards the Shagohod bay. This doesn't make sense, my calculations had him taking a shit this hour, and I've lost track of Snake.

ZERO: Raikov? Hmm yes that is strange... wait a second, Snake was using a Raikov disguise to make contact with Sokolov.

SKULL FACE: ... Oh no.



ZERO: Oh toss, my biscuit's gotten all soggy. Did you say something?
 
Jintor said:
honestly if this game had been 'big boss collects the foxhound babies' game i think i would have enjoyed it storywise a bit more
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Baby Sniper Wolf would have probably better served the narrative than what the game did with Ocelot, Volgin, Liquid, Strangelove and Mantis; at least. Though I'm not sure I'd want to see Kojima's incredibly artistic and tasteful depiction of the torture and attempted rape of an eight-year-old.
 
Golnei said:
Baby Sniper Wolf would have probably better served the narrative than what the game did with Ocelot, Volgin, Liquid, Strangelove and Mantis; at least. Though I'm not sure I'd want to see Kojima's incredibly artistic and tasteful depiction of the torture and attempted rape of an eight-year-old.
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Expert trolling.
 
Jintor said:
what i don't get is why zero got a dude with a very visibly scarred face to the point where he obviously looks like a skull to be his fucking super secret agent team

like, secret even from his regular secret agent team!

"Did you see the guy with the skull face?"
"Yeah I think he's like the janitor or something"
"Oh i guess that makes sense. He's way too visible to be a secret agent."

Double bluff!
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What did you think his mask was for?

Edit: Dammit, Zomba.
 
Watching that stream by Quiet's actress is interesting. She's really good at the game -- tranq'd some guys with perfect headshots, and seems to be interrogating, subduing and fulton-ing everyone. She keeps crashing through windows, though.

ShockingAlberto said:
That's the side I've come down on eventually, but it is kind of strange how different (and, well, worse) her face looks in the game.
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I actually think her in-game face is really attractive. Of course, so is her real face. Apples and oranges. But I feel shallow now having this discussion, lol.
 
Huey's face animates really well.

Maybe because Randolph was hamming it up, so the expressions were more exaggerated and came through more clearly, but you can really see a lot from his face l.
 
Ocelot, as much as we like to not like him in this game, has a certain softness to his expressions that is appealing.

Kaz is always scowling but he comes off convincingly pissed and frustrated.

Venom has the best "thinking face" I've seen in games. This is the look he has in the ACC.

Eli's face looks wooden, but in general I think they did an amazing job with the faces.
 
BreezyLimbo said:
Ok what the fuck is up with Pequod. He clearly dies in the Metal Archaea mission, but then he's back 5 minutes later?
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It's just the game not giving a fuck.

Seriously, how much work is it to get someone with a new callsign, for continuity's sake. Losing Pequod there could've been a cool moment, dude is a bro and always there for you and then he fucking dies. Would add some, o I don't know, emotion and character development.


When the fight with the skulls was over and I randomly heard "This is Pequod, arriving at LZ" I was so confused.

This fucking game..
 
Neiteio said:
Ocelot, as much as we like to not like him in this game, has a certain softness to his expressions that is appealing.

Kaz is always scowling but he comes off convincingly pissed and frustrated.

Venom has the best "thinking face" I've seen in games. This is the look he has in the ACC.

Eli's face looks wooden, but in general I think they did an amazing job with the faces.
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The cutscene right after shooting Sahelanthropus with the minigun in mission 12 starts with perhaps the best facial expression I've ever seen on a video game character, on Snake.

It's "What the fuck?" and "I should have expected this" rolled into one.
 
I am still mourning faceless helicopter pilot bro, Mike, from RE4.

I can accept Pequod jumped off the helicopter at the last minute, and then Miller sent a second helicopter to rescue him and then he survived.
 
I do wonder what Stefanie thinks about her character. I mean, outwardly she seems to love Quiet, but she streams the game and posts on Twitter and is regularly exposed to everyone's thoughts on Quiet. Surely she has heard the controversy. I wonder if she ever thinks, "Maybe my character is part of a larger problem in games."

ElFly said:
You could say she boned him.
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Perfect.

ShockingAlberto said:
This is true of Big Boss, actually.

Well, I guess depending on how you interpret the box dialogue.
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"Date with Paz?" Not canon, I thought.
 
SJRB said:
It's just the game not giving a fuck.

Seriously, how much work is it to get someone with a new callsign, for continuity's sake. Losing Pequod there could've been a cool moment, dude is a bro and always there for you and then he fucking dies. Would add some, o I don't know, emotion and character development.


When the fight with the skulls was over and I randomly heard "This is Pequod, arriving at LZ" I was so confused.

This fucking game..
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Same here. I remember reading from another person that said Queequeg would be your new pilot. I thought it would be really cool.
 
Pequod didn't die. That was his phantom, Morphos, given plastic surgery and a name change. The real Pequod was setting up Helicopterland and came back.
 
Neiteio said:
I do wonder what Stefanie thinks about her character. I mean, outwardly she seems to love Quiet, but she streams the game and posts on Twitter and is regularly exposed to everyone's thoughts on Quiet. Surely she has heard the controversy. I wonder if she ever thinks, "Maybe my character is part of a larger problem in games."
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Apparently she was pressed on that issue in a YouTube Let's Play with another female gamer. Stephanie's defense was "This is common in the series", or something to that effect.

She's a model so she's probably less sensitive to being portrayed primarily for her attractiveness than others might expect her to be. I do wonder if she knows how far Kojima pushed that angle, though; it would be interesting to see her reaction (likely embarrassment).
 
Neiteio said:
Pequod didn't die. That was his phantom, Morphos, given plastic surgery and a name change. The real Pequod was setting up Helicopterland and came back.
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I am not sure why Big Boss' idea of dividing countries according to professions never worked out.

I blame the Patriots.
 
Alienous said:
Apparently she was pressed on that issue in a YouTube Let's Play with another female gamer. Stephanie's defense was "This is common in the series", or something to that effect.

She's a model so she's probably less sensitive to being portrayed primarily for her attractiveness than others might expect her to be. I do wonder if she knows how far Kojima pushed that angle, though; it would be interesting to see her reaction (likely embarrassment).
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Just imagine her meeting with Kojima in his office and all he does is showing her that her figurine's breasts are squeezable.
 
Alienous said:
Apparently she was pressed on that issue in a YouTube Let's Play with another female gamer. Stephanie's defense was "This is common in the series", or something to that effect.

She's a model so she's probably less sensitive to being portrayed primarily for her attractiveness than others might expect her to be. I do wonder if she knows how far Kojima pushed that angle, though; it would be interesting to see her reaction (likely embarrassment).
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Interesting. Yeah, I imagine it's hard to get a read on her on this issue.

I'm looking at her Let's Play, and it's neat seeing her react to herself in the prologue scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoChEq-fad0

She almost acts like she's seeing the final product for the first time.

matrix-cat said:
All of Quiet's scenes can be described as the "_____ boob scene". The torture boob scene, the plane shooty boob scene, the shower boob scene :P
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lol, the "plane shooty boob scene"
 
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