BlackGhost
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Shit forgot about Walter white
Billy Zabka was a true little shit, but Kreese was the best villain in the Karate Kid.
Nah - he's probably the most iconic, but as a villain he's nothing special. Personally for me the GOAT villain is Griffith from Berserk:
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I don't think people actually care that much about Vader as a character, only as an icon of the franchise and sci fi.
As an icon, I would put him up there... but his source material, the 3 films, he's laughably behind someone (critically) like the Joker. But as far as most loved villain, yeah he's probably it. I wonder how close Joker is especially with how much Batman is on the map and how recently we saw a genre defining performance in the Joker.
lol at people posting anime characters. Maybe Vegeta but still.
Darth Vader
T800
Predator
The joker
Michael Mayers
Does this count? People HATE Femto. They love Griffith, but Griffith wasn't really a villain. He was the "Hero" of the "Story" until he got rekt by you know who and did you know what and ended up in you know where for a year before doing you know what to you know who after becoming you know what thanks to you know who.
lol at people posting anime characters. Maybe Vegeta but still.
Darth Vader
T800
Predator
The joker
Michael Mayers
Cackled like a madmanNo that's probably Ronald Reagan.
Does this count? People HATE Femto. They love Griffith, but Griffith wasn't really a villain. He was the "Hero" of the "Story" until he got rekt by you know who and did you know what and ended up in you know where for a year before doing you know what to you know who after becoming you know what thanks to you know who.
Shit forgot about Walter white
Griffith is still a scumbag. Have you seen what happens afterVolume 22 spoiler:the eclipse?I just read volume 22 with him reuniting with Guts, Casca and Rickert and he's not sorry for what he did to them.
You clearly haven't read Berserk. Griffith is a far better villain than anyone you just listed.
He is not iconic. not beloved by the mainstream. The villains I listed are basically cultural icons.
He is not iconic. not beloved by the mainstream. The villains I listed are basically cultural icons.
Nah, until the the prequels his look and persona made him the ultimate badass. The armor, the voice, the force powers, the lightsaber. Classic stuff. And his character had hints of real complexity until George Lucas bashed us over the head with Anakin's lame arc.What's beloved about Darth Vader? He was a whiny child and a mass murderer.
Like most of the Star Wars characters, he had a striking look at that's it.
Despite Lucas's best efforts at character assassination, Vader is still iconic.
Some other great villains that come to mind:
Hannibal Lecter
The Joker
Severus Snape
Nah, until the the prequels his look and persona made him the ultimate badass. The armor, the voice, the force powers, the lightsaber. Classic stuff. And his character had hints of real complexity until George Lucas bashed us over the head with Anakin's lame arc.
I always thought his whole presence screamed menace. Which made the Emperor that much more intimidating when you found out Vader was just his lapdog.Vader looked cool, but wasn't menacing except for when he choked a few helpless individuals.
He's like Boba Fett only slightly more competent.
Vader looked cool, but wasn't menacing except for when he choked a few helpless individuals.
He's like Boba Fett only slightly more competent.
You know it's true
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Clearly no one in the rebel alliance had an answer for that guy. He was a better strategist AND better combatant than anyone on the opposing side by a mile.
It's probably the Joker. Everybody likes the Joker.
Darth Vader was retroactively ruined by the shitheel prequels.
Vader's not even that evil. He's mostly a villain by association with Tarkin and the Emperor. What's he even do? Kill Ben I guess but Ben was into it. Plus he kills that knucklehead Imperial officer so his kill count is even Stevens good guys and bad. I suppose he shoots down some Rebels around the Deathstar but the Rebels were actively trying to murder like a billion people so that's fair self defense. Vader puts Han on ice but Han was a deadbeat trying to cheat a gangster so he deserved it.
He looks imposing and he's got good menace and all but you can tell his heart isn't really in it.
You clearly haven't read Berserk. Griffith is a far better villain than anyone you just listed.
See, I have no idea who that is, and I frequent a gaming forum. That means most of society doesn't know who he is, thus making him irrelevant to this thread.
See, I have no idea who that is, and I frequent a gaming forum
Never played a final fantasy game. And regardless, that still doesn't mean he's a pop culture icon on the level of most of the characters already posted in this thread.You don't know who sephiroth is?
FFVII was most definitely a mass success.
Never played a final fantasy game.
And regardless, that still doesn't mean he's a pop culture icon on the level of most of the characters already posted in this thread.
Give me a break man, star wars is a pop culture juggernaut worldwide. Not just "people who watch space ship movies" don't be ridiculous. They're on totally different levels, to say otherwise is ignorance bordering on stubborn stupidity.There are people who have never seen star wars who couldn't name darth vader, either.
Except FFVII was most certainly a major pop cultural event world-wide, and most people who play video games would recognize him, just as most people who watch space ship movies would recognize darth vader.
Give me a break man, star wars is a pop culture juggernaut worldwide.
Not just "people who watch space ship movies" don't be ridiculous. They're on totally different levels, to say otherwise is ignorance bordering on stubborn stupidity.