Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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If Guile isn't revealed at NYCC, all bets are off to who's next.

Is there an Indian event in this end year ? If so, they could reveal Sim there.

My thinking is that they want to reveal all characters ASAP so that they can talk story and other modes. I also expect them to reveal a couple of DLC characters before the game is even out.

It's going to be Dhalsim

The game doesn't have a zoning character right now, and it's kinda obvious we're going to get one.
 
Why are people upset? He looks awesome, and the game needs a heavy grappler. Also, Snake and Itazan get their character, which has me excited.
 
Lol do you really think Urien or Alex or actually any sf3 character would sell more than Zangief?

A lot of people in this thread honestly believe this, it's amazing. Of course how strong the character is would directly affect their sales but on an even ground Gief would slaughter them.
 
I'm sticking with my guns for now. If it's Zangief, then that's that. But at this present time, it all just seems too obvious.

Though there is the glaring fact that Ono has never teased a character who was already in SFIV. On top of that, Zangief is just too obvious for the kind of hint that Ono made. Plus the spacing between the spherical bumps is just too far to be Zangief's belt. A good chunk of this thread had the same logic concerning Cody & Dudley, and look how that turned out.

The fact that Ono doesn't tease characters who were already in SFIV. Ono teased Birdie but not Cammy. Ono teased Necalli but not Ken. Ono teased Rainbow Mika but not Vega. Then Ono went on to tease Rashid & Karin.

Exactly, Ono's playing most of you like a damn fiddle. Don't fall for it.

Yeah, it's Zangief. Just like how the wind attack was Cody & how Ryu pushed to the wall was Dudley.

Ono doesn't tease characters already in SFIV.

Oh boy, what are you saying now?

Actually can I propose something? Can you just stop parroting everything you heard? Also please stop pushing all of your facts and information upon us when we are here to speculating for fun. You really kill some of our hype by politically correcting us with our speculation. Just you did with Zangief and other characters.

It's really hype-killer when you kept telling people that they are wrong and acting like you know everything. I promise you that I'm not only one that are annoyed by your post styles. I'm fine with you speculating with us and share the same passions with us about the game, at long you don't act like Mr. Know-It-All and ruin the fun for some of us.

That's why I dread to share the hype with you for Marvel Vs. Capcom 4 because you are going to correct most of our posts when we are going to talk about X-Men and Fantastic Four characters. It would be like, "Hey Marvel is not going to add those characters because they have issues with Fox, blah blah blah" every time someone brought up Wolverine, Doctor Doom, etc. That would kill some of our hype for MVC4 if you are going to do that. If you don't agree with our characters speculations, please don't push your information into us because we just mentioned them so that don't meant we are clueless about it. We just want to see those characters coming back.

Thank you for being understanding, Neoxon!
 
Why are people upset? He looks awesome, and the game needs a heavy grappler. Also, Snake and Itazan get their character, which has me excited.
Because he's just another SFII character we've seen a gazillion times. Definitely not the show-stopper that you'd expect this late in the reveal game.
 
Hm you might be right. Guile would also fill zoner play style we're still missing and presumed Sim would fill.

Though I'm also thinking it could be Akuma. Because...you know...Akuma.

Akuma is a character you would want out as DLC, he's the type everyone would unlock.... I'm better Urien is boss and the first DLC with Akuma being secret boss and being the second DLC....
 
Oh boy, what are you saying now?

Actually can I propose something? Can you just stop parroting everything you heard? Also please stop pushing all of your facts and information upon us when we are here to speculating for fun. You really kill some of our hype by politically correcting us with our speculation. Just you did with Zangief and other characters.

It's really hype-killer when you kept telling people that they are wrong and acting like you know everything. I promise you that I'm not only one that are annoyed by your post styles. I'm fine with you speculating with us and share the same passions with us about the game, at long you don't act like Mr. Know-It-All and ruin the fun for some of us.

That's why I dread to share the hype with you for Marvel Vs. Capcom 4 because you are going to correct most of our posts when we are going to talk about X-Men and Fantastic Four characters. It would be like, "Hey Marvel is not going to add those characters because they have issues with Fox, blah blah blah" every time someone brought up Wolverine, Doctor Doom, etc. That would kill some of our hype for MVC4 if you are going to do that. If you don't agree with our characters speculations, please don't push your information into us because we just mentioned them so that don't meant we are clueless about it. We just want to see those characters coming back.

Thank you for being understanding, Neoxon!


The second quote was my favourite.
 
I think the last veteran is going to be either Juri or Guile. Guile would make a lot of sense as a NYCC reveal, and Juri was the only SF4 newcomer in the US (and worldwide) Top 10 of that 2013 popularity poll. Out of the two I really hope it's Juri. Though if they overhaul Guile as much as they've changed Zangief in V, maybe his reveal will be cooler than I'm dreading.
 
What???? Projectiles have always been super hard to deal with as Gief. The tools they give him to avoid them are lackluster or cost meter, and thats by design.

In this version as far as I can tell, the tools they give him to avoid them are situational or cost meter, so just what are you getting at?

Everyone else seems to have a much easier time nullifying projectiles in SF5. Have you played the game yet?

His v-skill absorbs 1 hit, I think he still has the lariat (which will likely still be projectile invincible), and he has a headbutt that nullifies projectiles. Seems like quite a few options to me.

Wtf are you talking about. Lol you are so wrong about everything

What am I wrong about?
 
A lot of people in this thread honestly believe this, it's amazing. Of course how strong the character is would directly affect their sales but on an even ground Gief would slaughter them.

The thing is 3S character fans are hardcore Street Fighter fans by default who were going to pick up V anyway. Gief is in to attract casual fans as they would more likely recognize that character. So Alex makes more sense as a character people would pay extra for.
 
Last time we saw Zangief: a Disney movie.

Last time we saw Alex: a remote background ad in SF4 that was barely visible.

Yeah, son, Zangief would outsell Alex. They gotta sell the base game first, cannot fill it with obscure characters from SF3. Gotta put GOOD CHARACTERS in there.

They know there's a hardcore fanbase for SF3 that will buy their DLC eyes closed so it's win win.
 
I'm sorry for everyone that's disappointed, but Gief looks awesome in that trailer. They should have got him out of the way earlier, though.
I was expecting Zangief. I'm just disappointed that Capcom couldn't have been bothered to change a single thing about him.

You mean design-wise ? Because his moves seem interestingly fresh to me..
 
It's going to be Dhalsim

The game doesn't have a zoning character right now, and it's kinda obvious we're going to get one.

I don't think zoning will work very well in this game, but they could also change him to deal with that.

I don't know, I can't believe the Gief/Sim leak that easily. Guile, in my mind, would make more sense especially because of the story. I don't have any idea how they could fit Sim (and Gief, for that matter) in the story.

If it's either Sim or Guile, to me, it's irrelevant. Neither of them are Juri =(

So, Guile at NYCC and Blanka at Brazil conference, right? It isn't Street Fighter without Blanka.

Only 1 returning character left and Brazil reveal is a new character.
 
Why are people upset? He looks awesome, and the game needs a heavy grappler. Also, Snake and Itazan get their character, which has me excited.

I remember Snake Eyes saying he loved Birdie so much at E3 that even if Gief came back, he'd still stick to Birdie. I wonder if that will change.
 
I don't know, I can't believe the Gief/Sim leak that easily.

That's the thing: Gief/Sim was never a leak. The whole pairing concept, much less the pairing of those two specifically, was 100% a fan-made construction.

Just because Gief is in doesn't mean Sim is automatically coming. The two aren't chained together. Not to say Sim couldn't be coming - as people have pointed out, a keepaway character is also a big hole in the game so far, and he's a very well known keepaway character.

But the Gief/Sim speculation has always been just that: Speculation. The pairing is a fan creation.
 
Clutching at straws here, but does anyone think there is going to be more than 16 characters at launch? Even if the secret/final bosses are unplayable?

SF4 did have hidden Gouken and Akuma... so who knows. Also from the intereviews they've pretty much said the first DLC character will be coming very fast after launch.
 
I remember Snake Eyes saying he loved Birdie so much at E3 that even if Gief came back, he'd still stick to Birdie. I wonder if that will change.
I thought I heard James Chen saying that snake eyes wasn't really feeling the character? Could be wrong it is James Chen.
 
So, Guile at NYCC and Blanka at Brazil conference, right? It isn't Street Fighter without Blanka.

I hope you're wrong for the sake of all decent people out there.

Could you pass me the salts since I really need some for my popcorn! ;P

Sure! Here you go:

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Last time we saw Zangief: a Disney movie.

Last time we saw Alex: a remote background ad in SF4 that was barely visible.

Yeah, son, Zangief would outsell Alex. They gotta sell the base game first, cannot fill it with obscure characters from SF3. Gotta put GOOD CHARACTERS in there.
Yet they put in Birdie.
Birdie is more obscure than R. Mika if not as obscure.
 
Because he's just another SFII character we've seen a gazillion times. Definitely not the show-stopper that you'd expect this late in the reveal game.
Just ignore he is Gief for a second, and watch the trailer again from a gameplay perspective, how can you not get hyped? You'll get ur sf3 chars soon, don't fret.
 
The point is that nobody "knows" anything. There isn't a single piece of information post Bogard's leak that has been reliable. The information set we have to work from has been the exact same since that pokemon-coded reveal.

There might be patterns and such, and probabilities and likelihoods - but they're still just GUESSES. People are catching feelings because they don't want to believe the support for their guesses isn't as strong as they'd like them to be.

But they're still just guesses.

Fuck, that's part of the fun. It's not as fun if you start trying to kneecap everyone based on "knowledge" that nobody actually knows.
 
Fuck you Capcom. Keep using your stale as fuck characters over and over. Fucking bullshit.

You will get your boy soon. I have a good feeling about it!

Beelzebufo smiling on like a proud dad knowing his son gief made it /manly tear.

Mwhahahaha. I wish that he didn't get banned because I know he's going to have a field day with this thread today.

I was expecting Zangief. I'm just disappointed that Capcom couldn't have been bothered to change a single thing about him.

EDIT: I mean they didn't change his visual design at all. Yes, I know he has a few new moves.

Yeah, I wonder if it is going to open the path for Haggar to become playable character. *cross his fingers*

Could be DLC. But yeah, half of Siliconera's info was false.

Alex and Urien still have a chance. I think people should wait until New York Comic Con for potential Alex announcement.
 
That's the thing: Gief/Sim was never a leak. The whole pairing concept, much less the pairing of those two specifically, was 100% a fan-made construction.

Just because Gief is in doesn't mean Sim is automatically coming. The two aren't chained together. Not to say Sim couldn't be coming - as people have pointed out, a keepaway character is also a big hole in the game so far, and he's a very well known keepaway character.

But the Gief/Sim speculation has always been just that: Speculation. The pairing is a fan creation.

For some reason, I thought it was a leak similar to Siliconera.

Anyway, even I'm not a fan of Gief I liked his new moveset.

I would really like the last to be Juri, but that will only work if there is no reveal at NYCC =/

I will bet on Guile for now. After all, SF2 + Blond.
 
Yet they put in Birdie.
Birdie is more obscure than R. Mika if not as obscure.

I think they were putting in Alpha peeps that hadn't been in SF4. The Alpha series was way more popular than the SF3 series, at least back then.

Only Alpha person not in newer games is Sodom I think. Well, that and the Cammy clones, and the people the later re-releases games added, like on PSP.
 
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