There is actually an entire cassette dedicated to explaining how the parasites would discern between different dialects and overlapping words/phrases.
You probably fell asleep listening to it because it was Code Talker and he can be boring as fuck.
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You probably fell asleep listening to it because it was Code Talker and he can be boring as fuck.
Yeah, briefly. Shaboni was so full of hate (understandably so) that Mantis puzzled over him for a bit, until he died. This actually saved Venom's life, since the Man on Fire was inches away from strangling him with his flaming hot oven mitts, and he can't move when Mantis is "shifting gears."
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yeah, was half expecting for her to explain herself. Especially since she had started to prove herself as an ally.
LOL
"...Stay still! I'm trying to save your life by cutting out your tongue, which could possibly kill you, but since we are on the medical base you will live."
That's an interesting theory. The general consensus is she was trying to pry open his mouth to check for parasites, but since they're down in the throat you might be right that she was going for the tongue.
...which again, is so fucking disturbing. WTF Quiet!
wasn't that part because of the parasites and another part because he was harassing her like the rest of DD's crew? I always thought that was the case, may be she didn't tell because she wanted him dead.
I also think that she took a pact of silence, that makes her not talk or communicate in any sense by words, because eventually one thing could lead to another and she just don't want to
exactly my thought... there has been a huge loop in this thread about multiple things that people don't accept that are in a fictional videogame at all
I did actually listen to the cassette your referring to but honestly it was still a bit to much for me to roll with. I don't know why that was the thing I refused to even entertain, but that was a bridge too far. The rapid uranium enrichment thing was fun in a old school Moonraker way though.
Yeah. But more to the point, they -are- explained. Like I said, there's a cassette tape on how the parasites are bred across multiple generations to discern between different dialects and phrases.
Man formerly on Fire wasn't catchy enough.
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Yeah, this was most likely it.
At the end of the day she really didn't give a shit about DD aside from respecting Venom.
That is also why she continued to carry the English strain in silence because she still had revenge at the back of her mind due to what happened at the hospital.
akidnamededdy
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Makes more sense than the Gray Fox theory. And the shitty thing is it was sort of true minus the Gray Fox part. Kojima is a great game designer but a fucking hack writer.
Blame Kojima.
When you get into the excessive explanation game you don't get to just stop, and Kojima has been answering questions that didn't need answers since MGS4.
The contrivances that aren't explained just stand out all the more.
akidnamededdy
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The Quiet mouth knife scene and the last scene with Paz
pulling her own guts out
An explanation isn't good enough if I find the explanation lacking.
Oh boy, where to begin:
- Quiet garroting the doctor and nurse, complete with deep bloody flesh wound around the throat as he gurgles to death
- The XOF troop dragging away the patient who grabbed your legs as he screams "I don't want to die"
- Quiet driving the knife through the guy's teeth, which we've already discussed
- The invalids in the Devil's House with their throats cut open and lungs festering with bugs, which we've also already discussed
- Having to shoot your own men as they either beg for mercy or offer up their lives, in between clawing at their throats and ripping each other apart
- Paz clawing through her own intestines to retrieve the bomb. (Speaking of which, I still struggle to watch the surgery scene in GZ.)
- The attempted rape of Quiet and her subsequent rage mode: neck snap, ear bite, nut crush, dick stab, etc.
- Did I mention the dick stabbing? I mean, I get where she was at emotionally, and the guy had it coming to him, but damn...
Why was quiet working for Skullface in the first place? I'm talking before she was reincarnated with parasite therapy. Was there a clear reason she joined him to go after big boss in the hospital?
Inferno313
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Well, not even that, but just the fact that this is a game where a psychic flying boy teams up with a burning zombie man and controls a gundam, a device that rivals the iPhone existed in 1984, human cloning existed in the 70s, and the thing that we apparently can't accept is that a fictional parasite can discern between languages.
akidnamededdy
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Pretty sure she was just the one who got picked for the job. A grunt among grunts.
We don't know why she was an asshole assassin working for XOF.
It's a bit of backstory I would've appreciated, since I find it hard to sympathize with her horrible deeds.
I love how you wrote this, haha
Well, not even that, but just the fact that this is a game where a psychic flying boy teams up with a burning zombie man and controls a gundam, a device that rivals the iPhone existed in 1984, human cloning existed in the 70s, and the thing that we apparently can't accept is that a fictional parasite can discern between languages.
Nah, it has rules.
You'd scream bullshit at time-travel just like people did at superpower nanomachines.
It isn't anything goes. Questions about whether the plot devices pulled straight from Kojima's ass are explained in the game are valid.
most don't listen to the tapes, this same thing happened with peace walker, except that in that game, the theme was more known and people didn't get confused as much (the AI system)
I won't blame a man who don't want to just give us a simple game of shoot to the head and go on with your life, this man and his devs (Kojima Productions) wanted to make a game with more depth than a simple shooter, these people want to push further what other make, and that is exactly what I appreciate the most from them.
MGS was made famous by these kind of things, if Kojima wanted to just make a game, he could have ignored these whole themes and go on with a game that would be easily forgotten.
this same discussion was back in post MGS2 era
That scene's played much more for comedy/fanservice than any attempt to unsettle. Compared to the Ground Zeroes surgery scenes and hallucinatory Paz's breakdown; it's well into the realm of stylised, humorously exaggerated violence.
How was that scene played for comedy? They strangled her and were about to rape what they thought was her dead body
Of course it is.
Doesn't change the fact I felt like covering my crotch a bit watching that.
She cartoon kicks her rapist in the dick.
It's the serious issue of sexual assault through the eyes of a child.
You know you love it. Can we get some "I spit on your grave" gifs in here.
How in the world is that scene comedy.
akidnamededdy
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Hahah yeah remember when they were about to rape her strangled corpse but she woke up and smashed that one guy's testicles
and bit off that dude's ear
and stabbed a guy in the dick like a hundred times
laff and a haff right there.
With a horribly realistic crunch and blood spraying everywhere. It's a bit more visceral than the usual nut shot you'd see on America's Funniest Home Videos.
blame the man who asked ha ha ha
there are plenty of disturbing scenes in the game, my goodness, the Paz's last scene is pretty horrible
Well, not even that, but just the fact that this is a game where a psychic flying boy teams up with a burning zombie man and controls a gundam, a device that rivals the iPhone existed in 1984, human cloning existed in the 70s, and the thing that we apparently can't accept is that a fictional parasite can discern between languages.
perfection in your writing, some mod should tag this to you
It was probably intended as serious, but the scene is so silly I started chuckling.
Oh god yeah.
Wife was by my side during Quiet knife incident and she was visibly shocked too.
I laughed. Nervously. While clutching my balls in displeasure. And slowly dying inside.
It's like Kojima thought, "You know, this rape and necrophilia isn't bad enough, let's also explode testicles and stab dicks."
Horribly uncomfortable to watch.
Really well-choreographed, tho.
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Inferno313
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Sure, but as Neiteio pointed out, it is explained. I don't see how "The parasites can discern between languages and dialects because of selective breeding" is a bigger case of psuedo-science than nearly anything having to do with genetics in MGS1.
The attempted rape scene is garbage.
It's a character being depowered because reasons and defending herself against being raped by conveniently getting her super powers back and super kicking and stabbing her would be rapists, then a shot of her boobs.
Like every other theme in this game it is handled with the nuance and consideration of a 9 year old.
It's a character being depowered because reasons and defending herself against being raped by conveniently getting her super powers back and super kicking and stabbing her would be rapists, then a shot of her boobs.
Like every other theme in this game it is handled with the nuance and consideration of a 9 year old.
Jeez, we've already been through this. Please don't start again.
I don't think Alienous is taking issue with that particular explanation, so much as saying that Kojima put himself in a difficult situation by creating a series that feels the need to explain everything, no matter how outlandish.
If the conclusion wasn't "We all agree it was garbage" then it is a talk with having. I wasn't there for the last one.
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