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What strikes me, Rox598, is that most of your post is relating to your perception of social situations ("it's awful if I'm the only one not drinking!") rather than the situations themselves. Anxiety and fear tell us a lot of things, and I've found a lot of those things to be way off the mark.

And there are many reasons one could have a less-than-great outing even with a very close friend. One strike-out does not define the game, if that makes sense. Plus, nobody truly 100% gets every facet of our being, so I've found close friendships to be differentiated by our constant quest for that 100% understanding rather than actually attaining it. If something isn't working about hanging out with your close friends one would hope you can bring it up with them, and through this conversation about your suffering you can all come closer together.

In the mean time, have you talked to your prescribing doctor about your medication not working? There are many, many effective medicines for anxiety out there, and I'm certain many of them would work well for you.

My anxiety and fear does control me quite a bit yeah hell there's even a girl in work i;d like to ask out but the moment the thought gets in my head I start thinking massive self hate thoughts and putting myself down....I even put myself down in a humor way a lot too...people don't seem to like it but I was put down so many times when I was a kid it's like second nature to do it to myself now.

had a really shit day in work today thinking my hyperactivity got too OTT again and I made myself look like a twat and a mentalist in front of everyone even thought they all already thing i;m an idiot because I don't think before I talk.

I haven't been back to see my doc after the last time he upped the dose to 30ml and said if it didn't work to see about counseling...I feel like too much time has passed now for it to be even worth going back and asking him what to do....he's a bit of a ballbag of a doctor tbh he always laughs and smiles about your problem and comes across as condescending.

I do apologize for the late reply...it takes me awhile to build up to talk about this stuff
 
Don't think it's safe for me to go outside anymore. I can't hold on to my thoughts anymore. I forget where I am. I stopped in the middle of the road and tried to take a nap. I've barely been able to get out of the house, and every time I try to go exercise it makes me feel worse. I can't even play video games anymore because I can't concentrate on them. I'm blacking out a lot and sometimes I forget how much time has passed or how I wound up doing what I was doing. This is in addition to my intense anxiety and depression. I'm not really taking care of myself much but I am eating and sleeping mostly ok. I don't feel like I work anymore. I feel like someone took a big scoop out of my brain and I'm stuck operating at 45% capacity. I feel like I'm dying and not in a depressive way, but I feel like I have less and and less control over my consciousness. Everything feels surreal and my life falling apart because all I can do is watch from the outside. I still feel like it's July.

I had been playing FFXIV to remember how to be social and keep my brain functions going but now I just blank out every time I pick up a controller. I go grocery shopping and forget why I'm there. I forget what I'm talking about mid sentence constantly. I feel like everything is on the tip of my tongue but out of reach.

I was hospitalized in early September after I got In a wreck and I just shut down and stopped taking my meds. They're gave me some stuff to last me until my follow up, but at my follow up I had a panic attack and started screaming and ran out of the building. My next follow up is at the end of the month, so I'm witho medicines. The free treatment here is awful and they aren't trained in any of the serious therapies, or just want to attribute everything to anxiety when I'm pretty god damn sure my misophonia is not ptsd and I have some sort of depersonalization going on. Whatever. I don't care anymore, I just wanted to tell some strangers. Everyone on my Facebook is telling me to exercise more and eat more....except I ran out of food and exercising makes it worse. Not like I was asking for advice...

Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well today. ^_^
 
I have spent the last three days with my friends. We hung out till late, danced, drank, went to the beach. However, I felt miserable the whole time. Those things are supposed to be fun. I've done them before and had a great time but now I just felt pain. Nothing feels fun anymore and I don't know what to do. I feel so lost.
 
I have spent the last three days with my friends. We hung out till late, danced, drank, went to the beach. However, I felt miserable the whole time. Those things are supposed to be fun. I've done them before and had a great time but now I just felt pain. Nothing feels fun anymore and I don't know what to do. I feel so lost.
Have you seen a doctor? I used to not enjoy things like that for a while until I saw a dr and my life has changed for the better.
 
Well, let me start by confirming your suspicion that it is not too late to revitalize your passions or even find new ones. There is meaning to be found in hobbies and artistic expression during all phases of life. I have a great uncle who started taking piano and learning new languages in his 90s.

That being said, if those interests, passions, hobbies, or what have you just aren't registering the same way they did, it begs the question of what is going on, psychologically or physiologically, that is invalidating those feelings or worth, purpose, and so on. Medication, like anti-depressants may help; other, therapeutic work on either managing symptoms or exploring causes (or both!) may help as well. It's not as if a random roll of the dice somewhere in the cosmos one day took the passion out of you; there's a reason (or, more likely, many many reasons) out there in the ether somewhere. It might not be obvious or come to you immediately, but it's out there, somewhere, and it could be of great help to try to find and address as many of these reasons as you can.

Hence the recommendation I leave most people with: medication to manage your symptoms if you need it. Therapy to develop skills and reframe your thinking. An attitude of self-reflection and introspection through all of it.

I hope that is of some help to you.

That is what worries me the most, a change in my brain chemistry that can possibly be remedied, but only so much so that I still have a baseline sense of depression that will never go away. (Have there been comprehensive studies on this? It would give me a peace of mind at least.) I am on a vacation and yet, I am still having these bouts of sudden panic and the depression afterwards. It's because I am impatient, since i am states away from my doctor, I cannot get the help I need. Even if i were to cut it short and go back home, I would still need to fight with 1000 different parties to get the care I need. Not only that, but I will also be going back to the stressors that caused this in the first place.

It's like i am at a forked path on a steep hill and i am carrying a heavy pack on my back that represents all of my fears and regrets. I need to make a choice, no I will make a choice.
 
Do you have any sense of what happens, internally or externally, 2/3rds of the way into the day that sends you into dire straights?

Not a clue. It literally just feels like my reservoir dries up.
I think boredom might have something to do with it, but I'm not sure which way that causation goes; my anhedonic mood might make me disinterested in everything and cause boredom or my boredom might cause me to stop being in a good mood. It's hard to say.
 
I only mostly just lurk GAF and this is my first post here, but I really just need to let it all out before I completely go over the edge and at this moment I'm having a trouble bout.

Just been sobbing on and offf the past few hours and feeling extremely depresseed. I have had my states of feeling depressed now and then over the past few years but most of the time I manage to overcome it and it goes away after a few days. I've been feeling extremely down over the past few weeks/ 2 months. I've distanced myself from the only people in my life I'm close to ... I'm just too tired to talk to them and my feelings of worthlessness makes me believe they'd be better off without me.

And I guess they too finally had enough of me. It's my bday today and I didnt get a single wish from them, they'll usually wish me first, but today nothing. I cant blame them but it still kinda hurts you know. The only people who wished me were people at work (they have a reminder for that sort of thing of employee bdays) and people online because I mentioned that it was my bday ... Even my dad didnt wish me, but that too I can understand because I've been angry and just too tired to deal with people or things that I didnt call him up when he was in the hospital.

Anyway, thats not the point ... It's just the fact that I'm an utter waste of life. I'm alive, but I'm not living. I fail at everything I do .. I'm not good at my job, I went to gym and even though I got in good shape, I didnt exactly look like Captain America (more like Hugh Jackman in the original wolverine lol... muscular but still chubby lol) .... Gym was the one thing that always kept me sane and took my mind off all the bullshit and my failures ... But I stopped going to the gym for the past month now and I've gained a fuckton of weight and I stopped caring about eating healthy ..... I just dont have the drive or motivation to go the gym.

I also tendered my resignation and I'll be leaving work next week. I need to get away from it and just have some alone time than be under constant pressure, add to the fact that I wasnt good at my job either, I didnt make too many friends and I always felt isolated at work while everyone seemed to be really good friends with each other. Of course it also doesnt help that I'm naturally shy and have a bit of social anxiety.

I'm literally all alone apart from my mum, dad and a couple relatives whom I count as my friends ... No gf, no sex in a loooong time. I honestly dont think I'm just a likeable person or I'm just boring ... my hobbies are just gym, video game and more recently diving .. Which I've stopped because I couldnt make friends anywhere.

I dont know GAF, I have suicidal thoughts and I'd kill myself if I wasnt a pussy so I just pray that someone puts me out of my misery because I'm no good to anyone. I'm an embarrasment as a son to my parents or a family member to my relatives and even as an employee.

Everyone is moving ahead in life and I feel like I'm just stuck and that I'll be stuck here for the rest of my life. I tried to talk to my parents and my dad just brushed it off saying I'm fine or that the fact that I dont have a social life or friends is because it's my doing .... Which is true I guess given how awkward or closed off I can come. I dont know how to talk about this to my parents either, but I thought they'd see the change in me because both my parents are on meds for anxiety/depression but its like my dad refuses to believe that something is wrong with me .... And I think something is wrong with me or I'm not sure if I'm just being a whiny bitch lol.

i've wasted my youth away, i'm in my mid 20's and I just got this job last year ... the rest of the time I just spent the whole time in my room - Gym.Video games. Feeling sorry for myself and now far behind my peers.

oh and i've also been chain smoking again.

I'm just tired. I feel tired and I wish it would just end. And it sucks because I used to have friends, dating life back in school and all of that just vanished because I finished school and moved away. After school I've just literally become your typical foreveraloner feels meme guy lol.

I'm sorry for the long incoherent rant... But it felt a bit better getting it off my chest.
 
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I'm sorry for the long incoherent rant... But it felt a bit better getting it off my chest.

Fuck man, that's why I quit Facebook. Everyone from my high school is getting ahead in life and I've always been a fuck up...my friends threw me away as soon as they could.

Dropped out of college twice. Got a full time job and moved out then 3 years later they fucking threw me out on the street (my job) so I to hustle to pay the rent which I am still doing barely....pretty sure I'll be homeless in a few years. I also spend money on shit I really shouldn't...but it's an escape...I used to so good at saving too..

My mom got cancer when I was 14 and I am now 26. She died this June and left me feeling even more depressed and lost. I have two big lumps on my neck that I will be getting checked tomorrow, hopefully I don't have something serious? (maybe part of me wants to get sick..ugh...)
I have NO family except a step-dad who is distant and 12 year old brother who...well...let's just say poor kid.

I have no fucking real world skills at all. I'm good at making music and fighting but how can those get me a job? When I get the motivation to send out resumes, NOTHING comes back. I haven't produced a song in two years either...

Even fighting/gym that has left me sort of...used to go to the gym as my meditation (social services let me use the gym for free) and now I can barely get of fucking bed. I smoke a SHIT load of weed to escape reality and also use video games as an escape. I'm cranky all the time and am pretty much a ticking time bomb..I don't know how much I have left.

Some days I have a short (very short) burst of good moods and then it comes crashing down like a fucking bomb...My dog, oh god my dog keeps me SANE. I know once she goes, I probably go.

I don't know if this sounds weird but mumbles365, thank you for your post tbh, you helped me vent as well. Thank you.
 
Fuck man, that's why I quit Facebook. Everyone from my high school is getting ahead in life and I've always been a fuck up...my friends threw me away as soon as they could.

Dropped out of college twice. Got a full time job and moved out then 3 years later they fucking threw me out on the street (my job) so I to hustle to pay the rent which I am still doing....pretty sure I'll be homeless in a few years.

My mom got cancer when I was 14 and I am now 26. She died this June and left me feeling even more depressed and lost. I have two big lumps on my neck that I will be getting checked tomorrow, hopefully I don't have something serious? (maybe part of me wants to get sick..ugh...)

I have no fucking real world skills at all. I'm good at making music and fighting but how can those get me a job?

Even that has left me sort of...used to go to the gym as my meditation (social services let me use the gym for free) and now I can barely get of fucking bed. I smoke a SHIT load of weed to escape reality and also use video games as an escape. I'm cranky all the time and am pretty much a ticking time bomb..I don't know how much I have left.

Some days I have a short burst of good moods and then it comes crashing down like a fucking bomb...My dog, oh god my dog keeps me SANE. I know once she goes, I probably go.

I don't know if this sounds weird but mumbles365, thank you for your post tbh, you helped me vent as well. Thank you.


That's rough man. I know it's not a measuring dick contest but sounds like you had it rougher than me. I'm grateful I'm blessed with a great set of parents who go out of their way to make sure I'm alright.

Also sorry about your mom. My moms admitted in the hospital right now with an urine infection, I dont think it's anything serious but both of them are getting old and sicker so that kinda hits me as well .. I dont know what I'd do if I lost either of them. It'll probably be the one thing that'll actually drive me to go do the unspeakable.

I wish I had a dog man, would help with the lonliness, but I live in a muslim country where you arent allowed dogs .... I'd get a cat, I want to get a cat just so I have some company, but my parents arent fond of animals.

Sometimes I feel like just bringing in a cat and seeing their reaction lol, but I dont know if a small apartment is a good place for a cat.

As for the facebook thing, yeah I deactivated my facebook for years because I was ashamed of myself, and I reactivated it again only recently and only spoke to a few, but it's just not the same when they're all living their lives in other countries .... and my friends never threw me away, I was the one that drifted away from them.

Guess the only thing that I'm really good at is just making me people hate me and destroying relationships lol.
 
The one time I opened up about what goes on in my head (voices that only music and weed suppress) to a professional. She told me "have you tried Yoga."
I feel like I'm 3 different personalities.

....I think I've said enough. I'm out of energy. Much love brother.
 
The one time I opened up about what goes on in my head (voices that only music and weed suppress) to a professional. She told me "have you tried Yoga."

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There are many more professionals out there one that would most likely suit you much better. Mine has suggested I try and be mindful to help keep bad thoughts from overtaking my head. I scoffed at the idea at first but it has worked pretty well. They may suggest things that seem silly or dumb but it never hurts to try them out first.
 
There are many more professionals out there one that would most likely suit you much better. Mine has suggested I try and be mindful to help keep bad thoughts from overtaking my head. I scoffed at the idea at first but it has worked pretty well. They may suggest things that seem silly or dumb but it never hurts to try them out first.

I had told her that I use kickboxing as meditation but she insisted that it was "too chaotic and high energy"

I explained that kickboxing allowed me to connect my mind and body into one and flow them together. It did provide me with a way to slow down but she didn't believe me.

Really put me off from talking to anyone in person. Don't have the motivation.
 
Well, managed to injured my lower back at work. I just made a wrong step when lifting 50 litre barrel of beer and strained my lower back to the extreme. It is so badly strained that physiotherapist declined therapy until 12th, when it should be better already.

So here I am once again on strong painkillers and muscle relaxants that will once more fuck up my mind. But on the plus side, I have a lot of time now to study German, we even received free online 3 month language pack and it is very good.

Ouch, DrM, that sounds painful. I hope your body is able to heal and you feel better soon. In the meantime, do you feel you've been able to make any progress on your German? Sometimes a sense of progress in something, anything that we find meaningful can be very uplifting.

I haven't been back to see my doc after the last time he upped the dose to 30ml and said if it didn't work to see about counseling...I feel like too much time has passed now for it to be even worth going back and asking him what to do....he's a bit of a ballbag of a doctor tbh he always laughs and smiles about your problem and comes across as condescending.

I do apologize for the late reply...it takes me awhile to build up to talk about this stuff
Rox598, if you don't like your doctor you should look into seeing a different one. It is not too late to change medications and there are no shortage of options out there for medications. I know it seems like a lot of work, but trust me, the moment you start to feel better you'll see that it was all worth it. Can you find another doctor to consult with?

Also, counseling could be very helpful. Are you considering it?

I was hospitalized in early September after I got In a wreck and I just shut down and stopped taking my meds. They're gave me some stuff to last me until my follow up, but at my follow up I had a panic attack and started screaming and ran out of the building. My next follow up is at the end of the month, so I'm witho medicines. The free treatment here is awful and they aren't trained in any of the serious therapies, or just want to attribute everything to anxiety when I'm pretty god damn sure my misophonia is not ptsd and I have some sort of depersonalization going on. Whatever. I don't care anymore, I just wanted to tell some strangers. Everyone on my Facebook is telling me to exercise more and eat more....except I ran out of food and exercising makes it worse. Not like I was asking for advice...

Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well today. ^_^

tearsofash, are there any other options around for quicker care? It sounds like you're having some serious struggles and surely there must be an option other than waiting months upon months. It's important for you to get back onto your prescribed medications as soon as possible.

That is what worries me the most, a change in my brain chemistry that can possibly be remedied, but only so much so that I still have a baseline sense of depression that will never go away. (Have there been comprehensive studies on this? It would give me a peace of mind at least.) I am on a vacation and yet, I am still having these bouts of sudden panic and the depression afterwards. It's because I am impatient, since i am states away from my doctor, I cannot get the help I need. Even if i were to cut it short and go back home, I would still need to fight with 1000 different parties to get the care I need. Not only that, but I will also be going back to the stressors that caused this in the first place.

It's like i am at a forked path on a steep hill and i am carrying a heavy pack on my back that represents all of my fears and regrets. I need to make a choice, no I will make a choice.

I disagree with your premise, FiTG. You are not your depression. It may feel that way right now, but there is more to you than one emotion or class of emotions or even a certain clouded perception. It's very unlikely that there is a strong baseline of depression that is so deeply rooted within you that it simply cannot ever be touched or improved. Why do you believe that's the case?

That being said, you're right that medication may not remedy it right way, or there may be some aspects of your suffering that medication can't touch. But medication can help tremendously, both through relieving many of the symptoms that are causing suffering and by illuminating what things need to be worked on in other ways. Medication didn't fix all of my problems but it put me on stable enough footing for me to start looking at what aspects of my suffering were due to my behaviors or thought patterns and I was able to start working on those.

I'm sorry you're having a tough vacation. That's no fun. I hope you're able to pursue treatment soon.

For those of you who have stopped believing in yourself before, what did you do to change that?

Start small. Build slowly and steadily. I've been working on rebuilding my internal momentum for almost two years now since really grinding to a halt and it's still a work in progress. And I've found that that sense of internal momentum is a big part of believing in myself.

I'm sorry for the long incoherent rant... But it felt a bit better getting it off my chest.

Hi mumbles365, I'm glad you came and joined us. It sounds like you're in a very, very tough spot, having lost some faith in yourself and in your ability to improve your situation. First of all, I can assure you that as neverending as these feelings may feel at the moment, they, too, are impermanent, though it may take some effort on your part to figure out how to get them moving along. Second of all, you mention that your mother and father are on medications - have you sought any mental health treatment yourself, either counseling or medication?

Also, why did you decide to quit your job? And I know motivation is really, really hard to come by, but any day you can manage to get yourself to the gym is a huge accomplishment. Exercise is one of those things that really, seriously, scientifically makes us feel better.

I had told her that I use kickboxing as meditation but she insisted that it was "too chaotic and high energy"

I explained that kickboxing allowed me to connect my mind and body into one and flow them together. It did provide me with a way to slow down but she didn't believe me.

Really put me off from talking to anyone in person. Don't have the motivation.

Have you considered pursuing treatment with any other mental health professionals? There are many options out there and I hope you can understand that one therapist does not define the entire profession of therapy and counseling.

I see both sides of your frustration with the therapist's suggestion; kickboxing can undoubtedly be meditative. However, there is also value in trying to carry a meditative mindset into different activities of different tempos, and often meditating on a slower activity (such as yoga, or breathing) can be more challenging and bring great results.

Also, I'm deeply sorry for the loss of your mother. My condolences.

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I disagree with your premise, FiTG. You are not your depression. It may feel that way right now, but there is more to you than one emotion or class of emotions or even a certain clouded perception. It's very unlikely that there is a strong baseline of depression that is so deeply rooted within you that it simply cannot ever be touched or improved. Why do you believe that's the case?

That being said, you're right that medication may not remedy it right way, or there may be some aspects of your suffering that medication can't touch. But medication can help tremendously, both through relieving many of the symptoms that are causing suffering and by illuminating what things need to be worked on in other ways. Medication didn't fix all of my problems but it put me on stable enough footing for me to start looking at what aspects of my suffering were due to my behaviors or thought patterns and I was able to start working on those.

I'm sorry you're having a tough vacation. That's no fun. I hope you're able to pursue treatment soon.

I believe it to be that way because ever since I got into my 20s, i was glued to a computer, work or otherwise, and getting up for the day felt like a chore. Very rarely have I felt 'good' getting up and having the energy/motivation to do things like clean up the house or look for work, anything productive. So I bided time watching YouTube videos, playing my Xbox. Just so that I could focus on something that didn't make me feel depressed, bored, and/or irritated. It became a default state for me and it's become stagnant and was one of the many catalysts for my mental break down last week.
 
Oh man my ex sent me a series of really accusatory, ranty, lie and insult filled email today. Don't know if it's her BPD or if she's really just that immature. She doesn't seem to comprehend that to get through the break up I talked to mutual friends about it, she thinks I'm trying to get them to hate her.

Honestly I'm super glad I had my super depressive episode last weekend because right now I can see it for how pathetic it is.
 
Well any emotional progress I've made at all this year seems to have shattered and completely fallen apart. All it takes is one person to come back into my life and I'm in pieces again. Now I'm completely in doubt about moving out of my parents even though I've already committed to another room. so hooray for me I guess
 
That's a really, really tough situation, Yousefb. The sorts of paranoia / delusions that you're describing are tragic and debilitating yet, as you've found, it's tough to convince people in that state of mind that they need help. Unfortunately, a lot of treatment is going to hinge on his consent, which is a holdover from the big de-institutionalization movement in the mid 20th century. The mental health system in this country used to be synonymous with involuntary admission and heinously poor quality of care and the backlash against those abuses has led us in the direction we're currently on. Things have improved somewhat since the 80s and 90s but still nobody has figured out where the line is for involuntary care.

As far as resources, I am not personally familiar with your area but a good place to start would be with the local crisis counseling line. Sometimes if you call the national crisis line (1-800-273-TALK) you'll be directed to the local set-up, otherwise you can google what the local number is. They should be familiar with local resources and may be able to direct you to some treatment options.

A lot of it may still come down to hospitals, though, and there again you're going to run into that line of voluntary vs involuntary that they are not always willing to step over for fear of legal reprecussions. I've got a friend whose best friend is in a similar circumstance right now, getting held for 48 hours at a time and then released and never staying on his medications because he believes he is mentally healthy. Hopefully you're able (and willing) to stay in touch with your friend and continue to be caring and maybe he can slowly be guided in a better direction.

I hope you keep us updated, if you feel comfortable; between you and my friend I hope someone can figure out how to handle these situations.

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Thanks for the response Piano I really appreciate it. I keep checking with his family on his status. At the moment he's staying at the University's behavioral center but his family is trying to find him something more long term. Currently he's cooperative and improving; however, as good as that sounds it's happened before where he's improved but once he got out he didn't stick to the meds and reverted to the delusions. Hopefully he's better able to maintain treatment next time. I will definitely keep you updated. I hope your friend gets better too. Much love.
 
Back to square one I guess. My ex girlfriend responded to my tweets that were all directed to her and rather cryptic. Then we chatted in WhatsApp, then she called me and then we talked for a total of 3 1/2 hours.

It is so weird. We talked about anything that happened during our no contact time, like how she lost her job two weeks ago and how much it is fucking her up. The more I heard about her new boyfriend, the more I realised that he is nothing more than a rebound boyfriend. He was just at the right place at the right time. She just doesn't want to admit it.

She told me how much she misses me, still has feelings for me and doesn't know what to do with them. How she always has the urge to contact me when something happens in her life, how she stalks me on all social media and how she sometimes reads the diary I wrote for her last year during my time in Ireland.

We laughed and cried a lot together on the phone and that special something between us was instantly there again. I told her many times that she should think things through with her "boyfriend", how there is still someone that loves her more than anything in the world and how door will always be open for her.

And now I have no fucking idea what to do.
 
Ouch, DrM, that sounds painful. I hope your body is able to heal and you feel better soon. In the meantime, do you feel you've been able to make any progress on your German? Sometimes a sense of progress in something, anything that we find meaningful can be very uplifting.

It is getting better, but muscles are really badly strained so this will take quite some time to recover. Funny thing is, that I can walk normally, sitting is the main issue right now. And I discovered which pill combo makes me down and which high

German lessons are going fine, main problem is that I can understand majority of German, speaking and writing is the problem
 
Hi mumbles365, I'm glad you came and joined us. It sounds like you're in a very, very tough spot, having lost some faith in yourself and in your ability to improve your situation. First of all, I can assure you that as neverending as these feelings may feel at the moment, they, too, are impermanent, though it may take some effort on your part to figure out how to get them moving along. Second of all, you mention that your mother and father are on medications - have you sought any mental health treatment yourself, either counseling or medication?

Also, why did you decide to quit your job? And I know motivation is really, really hard to come by, but any day you can manage to get yourself to the gym is a huge accomplishment. Exercise is one of those things that really, seriously, scientifically makes us feel better.

I dont know, I havnt looked into therapy/counselling ... I think I should but I dunno why I havnt, I guess it's just the whole stigma of attending therapy and having people know. It's going to feel awkward and embarrasing talking about my feelings and problems with people irl ...It seems easier to do online because of the anonymity involved.

And according to my dad ''there's nothing wrong with me''. So obviously he doesnt seem to care or know anything is wrong with me. He hasnt even asked if there's something wrong with me.

Quit my job because I was always planning on going to go to uni this year/or next year so I was gonna quit my job early so I can prepare myself/go to gym to get better looking for college lol .... But now I just want to quit because I dont want to work anymore, it's just too much for me right now in my current state of mind. I'm drained mentally, physically and emotionally to go to work, or start looking at my study prospects. I legit just want to sleepa nd never wake up. I'm mentally fukked lol
 
tearsofash, are there any other options around for quicker care? It sounds like you're having some serious struggles and surely there must be an option other than waiting months upon months. It's important for you to get back onto your prescribed medications as soon as possible.
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I agree, but I've used up all the resources in town and this is what I've got. It sucks is has to be this way.
 
I'm going to prison for a year and a half on November 3rd. I hope they provide me my meds while I'm in. I'll miss my family. I'll use this time to become a better person and prepare for a life of service work.
 
Hey guys i think it's my first time posting here. I've resisted posting for so long and I'm not even sure I belong in this thread but my SO has explosive anger the most trivial thing will set her off and when she goes off it is pure unctrollable anger and rage yelling profanities their is no reasoning with her when she gets like that then it's followed by crying hysterically. I need to get her help but the mere suggestion enrages her. Help me please
 
I've been feeling increased pain in my forehead, eyes straining and tingle feeling in my cheeks when stressed/depressed.

This started about a year ago after having to work a very stressful job along with depression. My work load is much lighter now but I still seem to have the same negative thinking patterns and such that got me through those hard times, not very very well might I add.

I don't know what to do...
 
Hey guys i think it's my first time posting here. I've resisted posting for so long and I'm not even sure I belong in this thread but my SO has explosive anger the most trivial thing will set her off and when she goes off it is pure unctrollable anger and rage yelling profanities their is no reasoning with her when she gets like that then it's followed by crying hysterically. I need to get her help but the mere suggestion enrages her. Help me please

Sounds like how I used to be. Books are what helped me, she will only change if she wants to. If you can get her to read a book on it, there are tons of them. That's all I can suggest.
 
I'm going to prison for a year and a half on November 3rd. I hope they provide me my meds while I'm in. I'll miss my family. I'll use this time to become a better person and prepare for a life of service work.

You take care of yourself, man. Don't do anything hasty, and make the most of your time to reflect.
 
Hey guys i think it's my first time posting here. I've resisted posting for so long and I'm not even sure I belong in this thread but my SO has explosive anger the most trivial thing will set her off and when she goes off it is pure unctrollable anger and rage yelling profanities their is no reasoning with her when she gets like that then it's followed by crying hysterically. I need to get her help but the mere suggestion enrages her. Help me please

That sounded like one of my previous girlfriends. She went tot the doctor shortly after we split up and she was diagnosed with some kind of anxiety disorder. Since she is taking right medicine, those attacks almost disappeared, but she said that is probably combination of medicine and new job.
 
I'm seeing a councillor/therapist on top of taking my thyroid medication and it's just turning into the same old thing. I know all the crummy things that happened in my past. I have my SO I regularly talk to about my feelings. But all the councillor does is just listen really. This is the third one I've been to in my life, and it just feels pointless. I don't need someone to listen to me until I have some sort of internal break-through, I want more people to talk back to me as well. If that makes any sense.

I had my break-through earlier this year though. My mother finally told me the circumstances of my father's death, which lead me to getting medical checkups. Turns out I have quite a few medical problems, one of which is hypothyroidism. The medication I'm on for that is helping with my depression/anxiety symptoms. I have previously diagnosed depression which has been replaced with an anxiety diagnosis. It's been changing the last few months of my life, but going to a therapist to cry about the same old things for the sake of seeing one because some people think I should is grating at me.

It also sucks that I basically have to explain myself almost to a state of breaking down whenever I talk to someone new who is supposed to "help" because I must appear to seem normal or something.

I'm rambling I'm just happy to see there's an OT on this topic and I dunno ignore me
 
I feel like absolute shit.

We texted a little bit more and in the end I convinced her to come over. We had a good talk about everything and then decided to watch TV together on my bed, which was a horrible mistake.

At 11pm she got really sleepy and decided to sleep at my place. After I turned everything off and we just lay there next to each other, the tension was unbearable. I kissed her and she cried because of her new boyfriend. Then our bodies went crazy and we had the most intense Sex in many months, followed by more tears from both of us. Afterwards we talked about random stuff like we used to, followed by more sex. The goodbye in the morning was as horrible as expected. The magic was gone and all she wanted was to leave my house as soon as possible. Plus she again told me that her feelings are not sufficient for another relationship with me.

I know how her and I don't think she is able to live with the fact that she cheated with me. Her new relationship will most likely end in the next couple of days/weeks and I'm the one to blame. This situation is getting more and more fucked up.
 
I'm going to prison for a year and a half on November 3rd. I hope they provide me my meds while I'm in. I'll miss my family. I'll use this time to become a better person and prepare for a life of service work.
Megatronium, I hope you still have people who support you. When my brother was in prison he wrote us letters on a daily basis and called us as often as possible. The highlight of his week were always the days when we visited him. Family and friends are the most important thing in a hard situation like this. I wish you only the best and hope that it doesn't break you.
 
I feel like absolute shit.

We texted a little bit more and in the end I convinced her to come over. We had a good talk about everything and then decided to watch TV together on my bed, which was a horrible mistake.

At 11pm she got really sleepy and decided to sleep at my place. After I turned everything off and we just lay there next to each other, the tension was unbearable. I kissed her and she cried because of her new boyfriend. Then our bodies went crazy and we had the most intense Sex in many months, followed by more tears from both of us. Afterwards we talked about random stuff like we used to, followed by more sex. The goodbye in the morning was as horrible as expected. The magic was gone and all she wanted was to leave my house as soon as possible. Plus she again told me that her feelings are not sufficient for another relationship with me.

I know how her and I don't think she is able to live with the fact that she cheated with me. Her new relationship will most likely end in the next couple of days/weeks and I'm the one to blame. This situation is getting more and more fucked up.

well, this is why taking ex girlfriends on a drink or to a date is not the best idea. Maybe after some time, like a year or so, if you manage to put it behind you in meanwhile. But even after that time, things can end like your date... been there, done that :\

Been looking for new job today and it made me sour. Found two jobs, but they want '3-5 years experience'. Where on the Earth could I get them?! I really need to get some contacts abroad (i heard that they need surveyors in Canada and Australia) and try there. My doctor said on Thursday that I should really, really think about to switch my job for less physical demanding one. Injuries are pilling up and my medical record is a bit thick for 30 year old male.

I have decided to bring this matte to my dad. Probably will all erupt like WW3, when I will bring this subject on during family lunch :P

EDIT: As expected, dad just started his usual screaming mantra 'you should be glad to have a job' and I went into counter with 'what I have from this job? 580 &#8364; each month and fucked up health, both mentally and physically'. Then he left.
 
well, this is why taking ex girlfriends on a drink or to a date is not the best idea. Maybe after some time, like a year or so, if you manage to put it behind you in meanwhile. But even after that time, things can end like your date... been there, done that :
We both knew where the evening would end. The moment she went on my bed she just sealed the deal. The worst part for me is her new boyfriend. She told me 100 times that I should not tell anyone under any circumstances about the sex. For fucks sake, they are together for 3 weeks and this happens. I feel absolutely sorry for him.

I deleted her number again and give the whole no contact thing another go. It's just pretty hard because we had our first date and got together in October 2 years ago. The 9th and the 27th mean the world to me. She said so too just yesterday.
 
You take care of yourself, man. Don't do anything hasty, and make the most of your time to reflect.

Thanks bruh. Will do.

Megatronium, I hope you still have people who support you. When my brother was in prison he wrote us letters on a daily basis and called us as often as possible. The highlight of his week were always the days when we visited him. Family and friends are the most important thing in a hard situation like this. I wish you only the best and hope that it doesn't break you.

I have a great support system and they still believe in me. I won't let my kids come and see me though. Not like that. Appreciate your comments.
 
I think I posted in here last time this happened. I can't sleep. I don't know if it's the fault of my new Geodon med, the doxepin, or the half-cup of coffee I had in the day. But it's almost 4 am and I'm thinking of playing some video games before I crash. Bleh!
 
I have a great support system and they still believe in me. I won't let my kids come and see me though. Not like that. Appreciate your comments.
That is good to know.
How old are your kids if you don't mind me asking? My brother decided against our cousins (8 and 3 years old) for the same reasons, but I think it's something completely different with your own children. 1 1/2 years without them sounds like an even harder time.
 
That is good to know.
How old are your kids if you don't mind me asking? My brother decided against our cousins (8 and 3 years old) for the same reasons, but I think it's something completely different with your own children. 1 1/2 years without them sounds like an even harder time.

18, 11,10, 9, 4, 8months. Its going to be tough and I'll tell them everything when I feel they're old enough.
 
I had told her that I use kickboxing as meditation but she insisted that it was "too chaotic and high energy"

I explained that kickboxing allowed me to connect my mind and body into one and flow them together. It did provide me with a way to slow down but she didn't believe me.

Really put me off from talking to anyone in person. Don't have the motivation.

I don't know your situation, but I wouldn't be too quick to pass up yoga or more traditional meditation. Most people have moments in their days describing what you're talking about, but what makes practicing meditation, or yoga as well, is that it helps you reach that state without outside stimulus. I feel exactly the same way when I go lift weights, but if I'm depending on my time at the gym to reach that state it just isn't enough.
 
I had told her that I use kickboxing as meditation but she insisted that it was "too chaotic and high energy"

I explained that kickboxing allowed me to connect my mind and body into one and flow them together. It did provide me with a way to slow down but she didn't believe me.

Really put me off from talking to anyone in person. Don't have the motivation.

Different things worth for different folks! Have you tried Jiu-Jitsu? If boxing is a science, then BJJ is quantum physics.

It's incredible how much it gives you. It feels like Judo meets wrestling meets Yoga.
 
18, 11,10, 9, 4, 8months. Its going to be tough and I'll tell them everything when I feel they're old enough.

But what's with your 18 year old? He/she should be mature enough to understand the situation. I do completely it with the smaller ones though. They would probably only get more confused.

You can send me an pm if you need someone to talk to!
 
But what's with your 18 year old? He/she should be mature enough to understand the situation. I do completely it with the smaller ones though. They would probably only get more confused.

You can send me an pm if you need someone to talk to!

My 18 yr old knows everything, why I'm going and what I did.
 
Is cool to see a support group here on gaf for this theme.

I had my problems too, I will try to share them soon, but meanwhile I while leave this post just to save it on my "your posts" tab
 
I've been feeling miserable for the last few days.

I tried a gym class yesterday for the first time in quite a while. Had a difficult time motivating myself to go but went in the end. All the other class members were friendly and were happy to help me set up, seeing as I was new to the class.

I saw someone on the gym floor today who was in my class yesterday. I worked up the courage to say Hi as I walked by. I really feel like my whole approach was off though; I kind of did some half-hearted cardio work until I kind of 'saw an opening'. Next time I will have to be more direct and just go for it. I've come to realize that hesitancy can come across as creepy to others.

I really feel like I need a good cry to release these emotions, but I haven't cried in over 10 years. I can't seem to be able to bring myself to the point of tears no matter what. Part of the problem is that I live in a crowded house where there is very little privacy. I would feel shame and embarrassment if I was caught crying in the presence of them. The other part of the problem is that I've effectively repressed these kinds of emotions since early childhood.
 
I went to my therapist today and now she's suggesting I do volunteer work...

I get the thinking behind that suggestion, but I really feel like she's missing the point of how I feel.
 
I've posted in here a few times but I've never quite felt as hopeless as I do right now. I lost my 5 year relationship on the 20th and it's really the only thing I've ever put all of myself into. It's all I've ever wanted and I truly thought we were going to last. I really don't know what to do with myself, everything seems pointless. I have nothing without her.
 
I believe it to be that way because ever since I got into my 20s, i was glued to a computer, work or otherwise, and getting up for the day felt like a chore. Very rarely have I felt 'good' getting up and having the energy/motivation to do things like clean up the house or look for work, anything productive. So I bided time watching YouTube videos, playing my Xbox. Just so that I could focus on something that didn't make me feel depressed, bored, and/or irritated. It became a default state for me and it's become stagnant and was one of the many catalysts for my mental break down last week.

But just because it's become a default state for you doesn't mean it's the default state or that defaults can't change. My default state when I was 21 was unworkably anxious and sardonic. You can and will change. Change is the one thing that is certain and neverending in our lives. The question is what you can do to influence that change.

I wonder, though - by watching YouTube, or playing Xbox, were you distracting yourself and avoiding your feelings on some level? Avoiding our feelings generally doesn't work well for long, and usually breaks into something else.

Well any emotional progress I've made at all this year seems to have shattered and completely fallen apart. All it takes is one person to come back into my life and I'm in pieces again. Now I'm completely in doubt about moving out of my parents even though I've already committed to another room. so hooray for me I guess

I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble, StaticJam. Is there anything we can do to help?

Thanks for the response Piano I really appreciate it. I keep checking with his family on his status. At the moment he's staying at the University's behavioral center but his family is trying to find him something more long term. Currently he's cooperative and improving; however, as good as that sounds it's happened before where he's improved but once he got out he didn't stick to the meds and reverted to the delusions. Hopefully he's better able to maintain treatment next time. I will definitely keep you updated. I hope your friend gets better too. Much love.

Thanks bud. I hope you're able to work together with his family to find good options for him.

It is getting better, but muscles are really badly strained so this will take quite some time to recover. Funny thing is, that I can walk normally, sitting is the main issue right now. And I discovered which pill combo makes me down and which high

German lessons are going fine, main problem is that I can understand majority of German, speaking and writing is the problem

Speaking and writing have always been the most difficult aspects of language for me, in different ways. Spelling slays me when I try to write and word recall gives me trouble when I try to speak. I can identify a million zillion words when I'm listening, it seems like, but I can't ever remember the one I want when I'm trying to speak.

If you're able to understand the language, though, and keep listening to it, your speaking will stay above a certain threshold.

I dont know, I havnt looked into therapy/counselling ... I think I should but I dunno why I havnt, I guess it's just the whole stigma of attending therapy and having people know. It's going to feel awkward and embarrasing talking about my feelings and problems with people irl ...It seems easier to do online because of the anonymity involved.

And according to my dad ''there's nothing wrong with me''. So obviously he doesnt seem to care or know anything is wrong with me. He hasnt even asked if there's something wrong with me.

Quit my job because I was always planning on going to go to uni this year/or next year so I was gonna quit my job early so I can prepare myself/go to gym to get better looking for college lol .... But now I just want to quit because I dont want to work anymore, it's just too much for me right now in my current state of mind. I'm drained mentally, physically and emotionally to go to work, or start looking at my study prospects. I legit just want to sleepa nd never wake up. I'm mentally fukked lol

I wish I could give you a specific strategy for overcoming the stigma and vulnerability in seeking help but I can't - why it's stigmatized varies in every person's mind. A lot of people view it as okay for everyone else but not for them, because to need help means they're weak or have failed. I can tell you neither is true (they really aren't) but I'm sure you know that already. Ultimately one aspect of learning ourselves and our feelings is facing them, no matter what they are, which includes the vulnerability and potential embarrassment of bearing our problems to another person. I encourage you to work through that stigma however you best can and seek treatment. You seem to know on some level that it could help you, which is a good place to start.

I agree, but I've used up all the resources in town and this is what I've got. It sucks is has to be this way.

I wish I had a magic solution, tearsofash, but I really, truly don't. Have you found anything that helps the time pass more bearably so we can make sure you make it to your follow up appointment?

Just found out today that my work performance has plummeted from my boss due to my manic depression. This day needs to end. :(

Sorry to hear you're having work troubles, ShadowKingpin. Hope things smooth over soon.

I'm seeing a councillor/therapist on top of taking my thyroid medication and it's just turning into the same old thing. I know all the crummy things that happened in my past. I have my SO I regularly talk to about my feelings. But all the councillor does is just listen really. This is the third one I've been to in my life, and it just feels pointless. I don't need someone to listen to me until I have some sort of internal break-through, I want more people to talk back to me as well. If that makes any sense.

I had my break-through earlier this year though. My mother finally told me the circumstances of my father's death, which lead me to getting medical checkups. Turns out I have quite a few medical problems, one of which is hypothyroidism. The medication I'm on for that is helping with my depression/anxiety symptoms. I have previously diagnosed depression which has been replaced with an anxiety diagnosis. It's been changing the last few months of my life, but going to a therapist to cry about the same old things for the sake of seeing one because some people think I should is grating at me.

It also sucks that I basically have to explain myself almost to a state of breaking down whenever I talk to someone new who is supposed to "help" because I must appear to seem normal or something.

I'm rambling I'm just happy to see there's an OT on this topic and I dunno ignore me

There are a few aspects of counseling worth mentioning, dity.

First of all, it takes a counselor a while to get to know you. There isn't a soul out there that can get to know someone so well in just an appointment or two that they can start spitting out mind-blowing observations with regularity. It's a slow going process, but once your therapist or counselor gets to know you better he or she will be more able to offer perspective and thoughts on what you continue to share.

Even then, though, a therapist will be mostly listening. This used to frustrate me, but the more I thought about it, the more my feelings changed. It wouldn't make sense any other way. I actually went to a therapist once who did as much talking as I did, and let me tell you, there's a reason I only went once. It felt like he wasn't giving me enough time to talk about ME and was instead making assumptions and giving me thoughts based on those. Again, the therapist has to get to know you, and that means you talking about yourself, with them gently guiding you along.

In any case, if you're not happy with what your therapist or counselor is doing the best thing to do is to bring it up with them directly in a direct and polite way. I've found this to be a real differentiator in therapists - whether they're willing to listen to how I feel or whether they get defensive and just think they're right. If it's the latter, they're not for me. That being said, don't be accusatory. Just discuss how you feel about your treatment, and again, that should help your therapist or counselor get to know you and what you need even better.

I'm glad you're getting treatment for your hypothyroidism. That's no joke!

We both knew where the evening would end. The moment she went on my bed she just sealed the deal. The worst part for me is her new boyfriend. She told me 100 times that I should not tell anyone under any circumstances about the sex. For fucks sake, they are together for 3 weeks and this happens. I feel absolutely sorry for him.

I deleted her number again and give the whole no contact thing another go. It's just pretty hard because we had our first date and got together in October 2 years ago. The 9th and the 27th mean the world to me. She said so too just yesterday.

I hope you're able to learn from the experience, DKQ, and I hope you can soon move on to someone who's better for you. From what I've read she / the relationship sounds no good at this point.

I think I posted in here last time this happened. I can't sleep. I don't know if it's the fault of my new Geodon med, the doxepin, or the half-cup of coffee I had in the day. But it's almost 4 am and I'm thinking of playing some video games before I crash. Bleh!

Sometimes the mind does what it wants. I tend to just sit in a chair and let my mind go wild when it's not letting my sleep.

I've been feeling miserable for the last few days.

I tried a gym class yesterday for the first time in quite a while. Had a difficult time motivating myself to go but went in the end. All the other class members were friendly and were happy to help me set up, seeing as I was new to the class.

I saw someone on the gym floor today who was in my class yesterday. I worked up the courage to say Hi as I walked by. I really feel like my whole approach was off though; I kind of did some half-hearted cardio work until I kind of 'saw an opening'. Next time I will have to be more direct and just go for it. I've come to realize that hesitancy can come across as creepy to others.

I really feel like I need a good cry to release these emotions, but I haven't cried in over 10 years. I can't seem to be able to bring myself to the point of tears no matter what. Part of the problem is that I live in a crowded house where there is very little privacy. I would feel shame and embarrassment if I was caught crying in the presence of them. The other part of the problem is that I've effectively repressed these kinds of emotions since early childhood.

I've learned overthinking things is generally no good, ceramic, though it's a hard habit to break. What's gotten you down recently? Was going to the gym a rewarding experience at all?

I went to my therapist today and now she's suggesting I do volunteer work...

I get the thinking behind that suggestion, but I really feel like she's missing the point of how I feel.

Have you brought this up with her directly? It could make for a very helpful discussion about why she gives the suggestions she does and what you're looking for in treatment.

I've posted in here a few times but I've never quite felt as hopeless as I do right now. I lost my 5 year relationship on the 20th and it's really the only thing I've ever put all of myself into. It's all I've ever wanted and I truly thought we were going to last. I really don't know what to do with myself, everything seems pointless. I have nothing without her.

There's no one answer to heartbreak, but what's key is to set small, achievable checkpoints for yourself. Focus on just getting through a day. Then maybe a couple of days.
Are you still in touch with your ex? As awful as it is, cutting contact really does help us get some mental space and rebuild things faster.

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I got an email from the registrar's office earlier today saying that I've been put on academic probation, meaning that my GPA is under 2.0. I checked my GPA online and it's well over 2.0, but that still hasn't stopped me from having a panic attack over it. I need to talk to my advisor. I really didn't need this stacked onto my list problems.
 
But just because it's become a default state for you doesn't mean it's the default state or that defaults can't change. My default state when I was 21 was unworkably anxious and sardonic. You can and will change. Change is the one thing that is certain and neverending in our lives. The question is what you can do to influence that change.

I wonder, though - by watching YouTube, or playing Xbox, were you distracting yourself and avoiding your feelings on some level? Avoiding our feelings generally doesn't work well for long, and usually breaks into something else.

Avoiding my feelings is what caused the mental snap, you're on point with that. I was always a "hold-it-in-so-no-notices" guy and well...i made a commitment to not be that anymore. As for default states, yeah, I guess you're right, but i was in that anxious/distorted frame of mind when i wrote that previously. My anxiety can be arrogant in it's assertions.
 
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