Because it's not the same thing, like at all?
[Steam] Zestiria tier 3 PO reward has unlocked (100%), PO now to get free Symphonia
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Because it's not the same thing, like at all?
Novel Mike
Member
99% now, ToS is happening!
Stone Ocean
Member
These have been going on for a good while now and a free game is one hell of a pre order incentive. I still don't understand what was the big deal with the Deus Ex pre order campaign, to be honest. I guess console gamers just have had enough with pre order shenanigans.
Sir Abacus
Member
Getting a $20 game for free and not having to miss out on bonuses sight unseen no matter what I choose? Yeah. Completely fucking same right there.
Because no matter what you chose you still lost something. It's a really shitty thing to get people to choose what they lose.
chrominance
Member
Screw it. Cancelled my Amazon E3 pre-order for the PS4 version and HOPPED ON BOARD THE PC HYPE TRAIN. I hope I'm not disappointed.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
its like heroin to the average steam user
Balmung421
Member
Made it to 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!How is it not?
No, the PS2 version (which was 30 fps) was the base for the HD port, which is the base for the PC port. Chances the game remains at 30 fps are prety high
GhostTrick
Banned
Hell yeah, a free copy of a game I own two copies of.
Just messing, I'm glad it made it. Had me worried for a bit. Hopefully this sells well so we can get future or even previous Tales games on PC. Would love if Berseria got a day-in-day PC release without a framerate lock.
Depending of the sales of Zestiria, it will likely do. Well, Zestiria kinda do, if for 3 days. But I wouldnt be surprised if Berseria gets a PC release in west.
Hell yeah, a free copy of a game I own two copies of.
Just messing, I'm glad it made it. Had me worried for a bit. Hopefully this sells well so we can get future or even previous Tales games on PC. Would love if Berseria got a day-in-day PC release without a framerate lock.
Well it being on the top sellers list and reaching the pre-order targets can only be good things.
Fingers crossed.
AND it's at the topsellers list in the number 2 position a week out. This bodes well for some future tales games.
Hell yeah, a free copy of a game I own two copies of.
Just messing, I'm glad it made it. Had me worried for a bit. Hopefully this sells well so we can get future or even previous Tales games on PC. Would love if Berseria got a day-in-day PC release without a framerate lock.
Well, Berseria is already 60fps. If it's locked at 60 I will be more than happy. If they allow it to run at 120/144, then I'll be amazed.
Basileus777
Member
It's different audiences. And this is getting me a free game, why would I be mad?
From what was already posted in this thread (I never kept up to date with it (Deux Ex) so I'm just taking what was posted here):
Deux Ex allowed early access to the game as a bonus and you can to pick what bonuses you got (and thus what bonuses you lose) while this you get everything, no picking and choosing.
I don't actually see any resemblance at all... I would like to hear the logic behind the comparison.
More pre-orders = more pre-order items. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what people were upset about with Deus Ex, but that seemed like the crux of it to me.
Edit:
Ah okay that makes more sense. Thanks. I remember Bamco did what they're doing with Tales for the Ni no Kuni CE and no one seemed to bat an eye. The Deus Ex thing confused me but I get it now.
I'm so mad that I'm getting a free game, a free side story that was once paid for DLC, and cosmetic items that don't affect gameplay. GRRRRRRR!!!!!
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Exact same situation here. Hopefully we get the other game as well since I've heard amazing things about it.
Nevermind TOS for free, awesome.
CertifiedFP
Member
So, how is Nvidia Gamestream anyway? Considering, as always, the coop in Tales games has always been local-only, anyone wondering how effective Gamestream will be for getting around that?
Okay, so it's fine because it doesn't have the superfluous items that you'd lose by picking one preorder bonus over another, and it doesn't have the option of arriving a few days earlier (also kind of a "nothing" bonus.).
Instead, it has two tiers of completely non-essential costume DLC and a free game. So because you don't lose anything, people are totally fine with it.
Preorder incentives have gotten to the point where people think this shit is acceptable, and y'all just lap it up.
Lunarwhale
Member
This is just giving away free stuff that would be available through other methods. It's also very simple - you pre-order a game, one that's been out in a territory at that, you get some free stuff. Deus Ex you had to choose one bonus or the other for each tier. It was overly gamified and confusing. It locked out content (though nothing major), which is especially unappealing when the precedent for these types of things is just to give pre-ordering more value.
Distresssss
Member
I don't understand what you are trying to get at.
Pre-order incentives have been going on for basically ever in the gaming world. There is absolutely nothing malicious about how Bamco is doing the pre-order bonuses for this game. At all.
Giving away a free game if enough pre-orders are met is perfectly acceptable to me and actually makes me want to buy the game more since I will be getting a bonus by doing so.
You sound like you are trying to stir the pot to stir the pot.
Yep. I lap it up just like the dog that I am. I didn't buy this game for pre-order bonuses. I bought this game to support JRPGs to come over to STEAM. So just because I get bonuses for buying this game early after seeing how well it performed on a live stream and want more of this genre on the platform, you're saying I bought this because of DLC? Thanks for generalizing big dawg. You're awesome. On top of that... attacking these preorder incentives is pretty much grasping at straws.
Right. I totally get why people are excited to get a free game. But to me, I dunno, it still seems like something of a hypocrisy. That's all I'm getting at.
If all the preorders ever would start including the next games to be released as a bonus, I don't see how that isn't "acceptable". Seems pretty damn fine to me.
But of course, "hurr durr preorders hurr durr shitpost something something" I guess.~
Completely different situations that have nothing to do with each other and have completely different contexts have a different perception from people? SHOCKER
It's like saying people liking cosmetic microtransactions on F2P games that don't affect gameplay and are fairly balanced can't complain about stupid F2P microtransactions. IT'S HIPOCRISY because they like it when it's done right. of course.
that is pretty much how i feel.. though your math is wrong, it is 27.50 each.. or more likely, 35 for zestiria and 20 for tos.
MulderYuffie
Member
Glad this is doing so well I need to pre-order this.
Nyteshade517
Member
the only thing they had in common was tiered rewards
with Zestiria you got everything offered per tier
with Deus Ex you had to choose one item each tier (and by doing that locked out the other choices) and getting the game early was tied to the amount of pre-orders instead of just being for pre-ordering like other games have done
TOS isn't even on PS4...
How vague
Especially when just looking at the system briefly shows that it's not at all the same
I dislike preorder bonuses but they can't be changed, sadly, because that's what the market wants. But if this is the system used, I'd prefer that to retailer-specific nonsense.