Pennywise83
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Which argument?
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PAL Charts - Week 42, 2015
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Which argument?
I... included the word WORLDWIDE
And its not like we only narrow our view to Pal Regions when we talk about the success or BOMBA of a title here.
Id like to talk to the fanbase like you do. At the end of the day this is a musou spin off. Its not a grand coming of dq, nor is it being treated as such by SE.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I also did my part and bought all three (ToZ, dqh, D5).
Thanks for the numbers. Counting digital, this appears to be a good hold for the franchise.
Thanks for proving that DQH sales are infact not bad. They are good for whatever is expected of the series.
WeylandxYutani
Member
Relative to the chart those JRPGs have done pretty well. However seeing the actual numbers, they aren't the sort of titles you can really base a viable business on in isolation.
One presumes that a fair few folk would go digital on those titles
One presumes that a fair few folk would go digital on those titles
ShogunDarius
Member
you missed how well xenoverse sold?
Bruno MB
Member
Well, Dragon Ball Xenoverse shifted 2.06 million units worldwide (around 1.8 million in the West), these are PS2 era numbers for the franchise.
Pennywise83
Banned
In all the threads I saw about the game, I kept reading about people writing that this is not a Musou game but more of an actionRPG - by briefly playing the game I can confirm is not exactly a Musou game as, for example, HW or DW (though the last DW I played was on PS2). The producer also confirmed that the gameplay is not exactly in line with a Musou game - if the market sees the game as a Musou game is hard to tell; SQEX also tried to differentiate the game by calling it DQ Heroes and not DQ Warriors (which would have sounded bad given the original name of the franchise in US).
I did not, but I saw that more as merely the DBZ fanbase recognised that a decent game was finally being made, not the DBZ fanbase actually growing.
ShogunDarius
Member
There has been 2 movies in recent years, the release of Kai and Super is now airing
These titles are super niche in the uk, only real jrpg types that sell are the final fantasy titles.Not a good result for Dragon Quest Heroes and Disgaea 5
I bought the Japanese release sorry :/ I did buy Zesteria though!
Katana_Strikes
Member
Same although numbers wise they are what I'd have expected but still disappointed with the reality.
He also conveniently left out DQVI which came out after DQIX and didn't chart either, but of course, that wouldn't fit with his narrative.
I recall others like DQ Swords Wii also not charting either, but who cares about that! It's all about about DQ on Playstation underperforming!
Jarod McChicken
Member
What exactly is your point here ? Implying DQ Heroes should have been perceived as a traditional mainline Dragon Quest ?
DQ Heroes is not exactly a musô because of its clever tower defense mechanics, but it's still a beat'em-all and it does not offer the exploration or the story you expect when you buy a Dragon Quest RPG, or any other RPG.
I thought at least Disgaea wouldn't even chart, so that's nice to see. Anyways, the release japanese trio was badly timed imo. They should've released with 1 or 2 weeks in between, not all in the same week. They're surely sharing a good bunch of their fanbase and only a few of those will buy 2 or even 3 on the same day.
Miles Quaritch
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Surprising as hell to see ToZ debut in the top ten.
Could be attributed to a slow week, but still a pretty impressive debut.
Could be attributed to a slow week, but still a pretty impressive debut.
Miles Quaritch
Member
No-one really cares about official price drops at a time like this. It's all about waiting until mid November/early December and getting a console for as little as £200.
This year should be even more insane with how low some prices have reached. Was possible to get an X1 for £240 just a few days ago...
Jarod McChicken
Member
Absolutely. Awful timing. Like a lot of people presumably, I had to make a choice and I took DQ Heroes last week (digital). Tales of will come a little later.
Get bundled?
Bruno MB
Member
On second thought, Dragon Quest Heroes is probably as high as it could realistically be expected to. Ultra niche series + genre of game that never sold well + week packed with titles that mostly appeal to same audience.
Anyway, the future of this franchise in the West won't depend on how an spin-off sells in a hostile market for jrpg's like UK.
Anyway, the future of this franchise in the West won't depend on how an spin-off sells in a hostile market for jrpg's like UK.
Wait there has been a price drop announce for Europe?
No I Think Forza is so high on the charts because its been bundled alot, I dont Think it sells alot of consoles outside the first week.
MaxwellParrish
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I too don't understand how could they come with this release schedule : it's not like the preceeding or following weeks are full of similar japanese release, couldn't they space out a little better?
May be this means that the games could have a bit of a better hold in the coming week ?
Pennywise83
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I don't - I just don't see how the fact that DQIV and DQV hadn't charted in UK has anything to do with the fact that I was expecting a better placement for DQ Heroes in the same chart.
Bits N Pieces
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But every week you stay in the chart your numbers will shrink unless the game is galled COD, FIFA or GTA?
SolidSnakex
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Germany, France and some other European territories are where DQH and Tales should do their damage. Germany and France in particular are always big on Japanese titles.
The Last One
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Wish they'd share the digital sales of those jrpgs.
Bruno MB
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Next week will be an important test for Assassin's Creed franchise.
[Week 46, 2007] ASSASSIN'S CREED (UBISOFT) - 156,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 47, 2009] ASSASSIN'S CREED II (UBISOFT) - 175,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2010] ASSASSIN'S CREED: BROTHERHOOD (UBISOFT) - 228,500 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2011] ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS (UBISOFT) - 238,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2012] ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT) - 355,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 128,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: UNITY (UBISOFT) - 153,000 / NEW (95%)
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: ROGUE (UBISOFT) -
[Week 43, 2015] ASSASSIN'S CREED: SYNDICATE (UBISOFT)
[Week 46, 2007] ASSASSIN'S CREED (UBISOFT) - 156,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 47, 2009] ASSASSIN'S CREED II (UBISOFT) - 175,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2010] ASSASSIN'S CREED: BROTHERHOOD (UBISOFT) - 228,500 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2011] ASSASSIN'S CREED: REVELATIONS (UBISOFT) - 238,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2012] ASSASSIN'S CREED III (UBISOFT) - 355,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 44, 2013] ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT) - 128,000 / NEW (90%)
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: UNITY (UBISOFT) - 153,000 / NEW (95%)
[Week 46, 2014] ASSASSIN'S CREED: ROGUE (UBISOFT) -
[Week 43, 2015] ASSASSIN'S CREED: SYNDICATE (UBISOFT)
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Imagine the numbers of AC if the didn't fucked up with 3, Unity and maybe Revelations.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Mhmm.
If someone NEEDED an XB1 for Forza one could make the argument they would have jumped in at launch for Forza 5.
ShogunDarius
Member
so Lego D dropped a fair bit, but cant say i'm surprised given the price point
Zesty is FINE on PC.
Worldwide Steam ownership (preorders only, release is in 13 hours)
Data is two days old.
Those numbers are actually horrendous, since they're actually worldwide numbers & not an individual market.
EDIT: Oh, that's the PC version, nevermind then, those numbers aren't bad for a Japanese game on PC.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Syndicate is definitely selling better than Unity because of the setting.
Cornbread78
Member
Tales, Dragon Quest and Disgaea all pretty low unfortunately..
Um that link just says the UK and only the UC bundle.
Nope, I actually expect the worst debut for the franchise, the "setting" didn't help The Order.
KillerMan91
Member
That is UK for you. German and french charts are far more important for JRPGs in Europe.
Dear god @ those dates...
I mean, I knew they released an AC every year but seeing them stacked over one another really hammered in that point.
You can't really fault them financially, every year those games sold 8-12 million, they milked that cow dry, & Watch Dogs might replace it this gen.
Zesty did probably 5k units in the first week in the second biggest western market (UK).
Would it be wrong to question PS4 Zestiria getting in the 50k range worldwide in the first week?
Xillia 2 did 43k in NPD August that year (dont have worldwide data) and that was half what Xillia 1 did (IIRC).
So it is not strange to say, that Zestiria will have a bigger installbase on PC Day1 and will outsell it constantly. It is already one of the most successfull JRPG's on Steam pre-release and the data doesnt include GMG Pre-Orders or other retailers outside steam.
Of course, sales could fall off a cliff with a bad port....
KillerMan91
Member
This really isn't true for some genres like JRPGs. France and Germany are both bigger markets for this genre. Wouldn't surprise me if Italy as well.
DQH and Disgaea numbers are as expected, Sony send them to die, the end of the year is stacked and people choose more wisely their purchase, I will buy them for sure but I already bought Until Dawn, Forza 6, Uncharted collection, Halo 5, BO3 and preorder Fallout 4 for this year...
I have no much money or time for them now, will have to buy them cheaper next year.
and all of them were bad, so fucking bad it still hurts.
I have no much money or time for them now, will have to buy them cheaper next year.
and all of them were bad, so fucking bad it still hurts.