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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

Just finished it... Feeling a tad soul crushed now.
Sacrificed the town. After going through hell and back to save Chloe numerous times, there was no way my version of Max was giving her up.



Also in the 6% (PC) in that David didn't get a scar.

Also I at least hugged Warren. Dude deserved at least that.
 
I friendzoned Warren throughout most of the game but the dude really did a lot to help us and in that moment it felt kind of appropriate. Plus there's always the chance that you leave him behind to die in an alternate universe

So you hugged him then, right?

Right?
 
So as Life is Strange ends, and look back on it, I think we'll all remember the true hero the tale.

Warren.

Warren is the true hero.

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Nightmare Warren made me want to have nothing to do with him. Between his texts and his dialog I got freaked right out.
 
I kissed Warren.

Dude is 15? He has a chance to develop outside of thirsty teenager and Max would help him do it. Max x Warren forever.

Max and Chloe make awesome bffs though.
 
Now that I've had a night to digest the endings... I like them. Both of them. But for very different reasons and almost from two different interpretations.

I feel like the Save Arcadia Bay ending is the most conventional. It fits the time travel storyline well and has a great emotional impact. Chloe develops over the game into someone who accepts her death and it's all very circular and neat, tying the story up with a bow.

But I want to argue that the #FuckArcadiaBay ending was good too.

Because I think from one interpretation, Arcadia Bay being destroyed may have been the *reason* that Max got her powers in the first place. We hear in game that it's a decaying town on its way out and there's a lot of mysticism and symbolism that implies that there's some presence that wants the town to be destroyed. I don't think it's necessarily true that everyone dies either (though probably a lot of them do). And while that ending is a bit shorter, I don't actually think that's a bad thing. It says what it needs to say. Max and Chloe are just exhausted and take a moment to look at the consequences and then take off somewhere else. I don't really think much lingering on the scene was necessary. It's a very open ending both in terms of the trajectory of those characters going forward as well as exactly how bad the destruction of the town was in terms of loss of life.

I don't really blame Max for letting the town be destroyed. Like she says, she never asked for her powers and were given them at a time when the choice to use them was obvious. Whatever force gave her those powers clearly intended for her to use them and the fact that she could jump through that first picture back to the beginning and undo it all seems like almost more of a loophole than anything. There's something thematically appropriate about letting the consequences of her time manipulation happen rather than try to undo them by going back in time once again.

I think there's something to be said that there are two endings in this game that both are so thematically different but both fit with the story being told. Both pretty much work I think, but require you to think about the story in different ways.

You raise interesting points, and I've had abstract thoughts along the same line. I've been warming up to #FuckArcadiaBay, but I do wish they'd put a little more work into that ending. Ambiguity and a lack of closure is one thing, but the ending that's there is just...nothing. I dunno. It just needs something else to really work for me, and I don't know what that something is.
 
Downloaded the episode. Waited for it to install. Took forever. It didn't install. Now I have to download it again. Great...
 
So, I finished the episode. The ending was a bit predictable and I don't think my choices affected any MAJOR plot points. But it still made me tear up by the end. And Max did give that farewell kiss to Chloe :)

But those details, those details. I'm watching a video of EP5, and right off the bat I notice that Victoria is in the dark room too! She wasn't there in my game. I wonder what other differences there can be.
 
So, I finished the episode. The ending was a bit predictable and I don't think my choices affected any MAJOR plot points. But it still made me tear up by the end. And Max did give that farewell kiss to Chloe :)

But those details, those details. I'm watching a video of EP5, and right off the bat I notice that Victoria is in the dark room too! She wasn't there in my game. I wonder what other differences there can be.

I think it should be expected by now that any choices you make in a game like this won't have any direct impact to the main story the game wants to tell you, but there will be small differences like the one you noticed. And I don't think the game needs it either, I think all the choices you made carried through the whole game pretty well making your experience personal even if it doesn't change the main story.

Even if it just boils down to "save this one person or save the town" that choice still carries weight because of the whole journey throughout the game where you have gotten to know all the people you are willing to sacrifice just to save your best friend or vice versa.
 
I'm lazy so I'll just quote myself

So, a sad ending? Bittersweet? Happy? Everyone dies, right? Spoil me away, by PMs if you don't want to post it here.

Really I just want to know if it's a sad ending. That'd motivate me enough to play through the rest of ep4 and ep5 lol.

e: there's a "sacrifice chloe?" choice at the end? well that's enough motivation for me, fuck her, i'll sacrifice her ass from here to moon
 
Fuck that last choice. Sorry Chloe, I know this is what you really wanted :(

Does Max kiss Chloe no matter what or is it based on previous choices?
 
Fuck that last choice. Sorry Chloe, I know this is what you really wanted :(

Does Max kiss Chloe no matter what or is it based on previous choices?

Someone said they missed the scene, no idea what would trigger it not happening though. I kissed her the first time you have the opportunity but also sided with her stepdad quite a bit and still got the final kiss.
 
Does Max kiss Chloe no matter what or is it based on previous choices?

Based on previous choices. I think you have to kiss her in ep3 and generally be pro-Chloe throughout.

Amusingly enough, the Save Chloe ending doesn't result in a kiss. But they're probably driving off into the sunset to go bang or something.
 
It had me in sad tears. Not Walking Dead season 1 ending sad, but still sad enough to hit the feels.

I actually think this was a sadder ending than S1 Walking Dead. To me it was at least. Both were very sad, but I enjoyed the entire game more overall in this one. I think playing the last 3 episodes in just a few days helped as well and not waiting months like with WD.
 
Yeah I kissed her the first time and hugged Warren if that matters in it.

Yeah I think kissing Warren will "overwrite" the kiss you had with Chloe, seeing how my Max kissed both and ended up hugging it out with Chloe in the ending I got. (Going back in time, and I was pro-chloe all the way too during my game.)

My Max kissing Chloe was meant to be a playful kiss and not a romantic one though, so I'm okay with that. Though I read the diary at one point during the nightmare or maybe just a bit after, and it was written something like "I don't think Chloe was mad I didn't kiss her" so who knows, maybe my choice didn't register, or maybe it was just to point out even more that the time travel was fucked up. (it was during the time that the diary was all messed up due to her power being out of wack)
 
Based on previous choices. I think you have to kiss her in ep3 and generally be pro-Chloe throughout.

Amusingly enough, the Save Chloe ending doesn't result in a kiss. But they're probably driving off into the sunset to go bang or something.
Let's see. I got the kiss and:

- Took the blame for the joint in Chloe's room, which made her happy obviously
- Disapproved of Chloe having a gun every chance I got, not so happy about that
- Picked up the phone call from Kate, pissing Chloe off
- Did not attempt to shoot Frank and he took Chloe's gun, pissing her off again
- Did not allow Chloe to take the money in the Principal's office, pissing her off yet again
- Sided with David in the argument at Chloe's house, earning endless shit from her
- Kissed Chloe when she dared Max
- Agreed to Chloe's euthanasia request in the alternate timeline (doubt this one is relevant)

And... can't think of any other relevant choices. As you can see, it's a mixed bag in my case, I wasn't being blatantly pro-Chloe and I still triggered the kiss at the end.

Maybe it also has to do with the fact that I friendzoned Warren pretty hard (gave the poor dude a hug in the end though, creepy nightmare version or not, he still helped Max a ton throughout the game).
 
Yeah I think kissing Warren will "overwrite" the kiss you had with Chloe, seeing how my Max kissed both and ended up hugging it out with Chloe in the ending I got. (Going back in time) My Max kissing Chloe was meant to be a playful kiss and not a romantic one so I'm okay with that.

well that explains why my Max only hugged Chloe at the end, what a way to say goodbye to your best friend and also secret love interest whose life you are going to erase. At least she did kiss her once before
 
Bit disappointed that they actually went with the "Revert your first choice to save Chloe and erase everything or the town is destroyed" thing. Everyone was calling that from the first minute of the story and I had hoped it would be smarter than that. Oh well, everything else was still pretty good.
 
I do hope in the 2nd Life is Strange game they manage to escape the 'illusion of choice' that Telltale games have been suffering from. I chose to save the town and it made all the things I did meaningless :/
 
I do hope in the 2nd Life is Strange game they manage to escape the 'illusion of choice' that Telltale games have been suffering from. I chose to save the town and it made all the things I did meaningless :/

Not completely meaningless - Max herself greatly changed over the week because of the decisions that were made. Also I would assume that Max would still make the choices you did that weren't part of Chloe's story - such as saving (or not) certain characters, befriending certain characters, etc.
 
I don't think we need to revisit this series ever again. LiS is dead. And that's fine, that's GOOD. I can't see them going back for any reason at all that isn't facefucking the fresh corpse.

Hopefully they get a crack at a different story, completely different. After Remember Me kinda blew a bag of dicks in a bad way, well...And their next game, Vampyr, sounds very interesting.

They bought themselves a good amount of clout with this game, but they'll never go back. I don't know why they would.
 
Fuck Warren. He ain't shit. You motherfuckers kissing him...smh. I contemplated giving him a hug, but fuck it, I didn't want him to CONTINUE to get the wrong idea.

That was my thoight too :D
I hugged him and even that felt akward!!!

Jefferson was all kinds of fucked up. WOW.

And LOL at the giant rats when you're stuck in the loop.

Dude...those rats are squirrels :D

Or did I miss something?
 
I do hope in the 2nd Life is Strange game they manage to escape the 'illusion of choice' that Telltale games have been suffering from. I chose to save the town and it made all the things I did meaningless :/

It didn't make all the things you did meaningless because it all still happened and Chloe outright tells you that everything was important even if it never *technically* took place if you ended up sacrificing her. There will never be a game that is able to escape the "illusion of choice" in the way you describe. It's an inherent limitation of any game and illusion of choice isn't even a bad thing.
 
Thought it was good, but overly predictable and miserable. It was obvious from the start that we'd end up having to undo everything (or get the shitty alternate ending).
 
I thought the hug with Warren was intimate in a very touching and platonic way. It was actually one of the most moving scenes in the episode, IMO, knowing that he and everyone else in that diner were almost certainly doomed.
 
Im kind of disappointed they chose the most predictable ending that I have seen guessed countless times. But I ended up going with Save the Bae to go against that. I watched the other ending after, and am happy with my choice.

Also...over 70% of people kissed Warren when I just finished.

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well that explains why my Max only hugged Chloe at the end, what a way to say goodbye to your best friend and also secret love interest whose life you are going to erase. At least she did kiss her once before

I think only hugging was a alright enough gesture to say goodbye, it wasn't like it was a bro hug of some kind, it truely felt right to me. I'd like to know your reason why you think they had to kiss to make it any more right though.
 
Im kind of disappointed they chose the most predictable ending that I have seen guessed countless times. But I ended up going with Save the Bae to go against that. I watched the other ending after, and am happy with my choice.

Also...over 70% of people kissed Warren when I just finished.

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Thats some alternate universe warren. The warren in the correct timeline won't even remember it!
 
This game would have benefited from something like 6+ endings across a good/bad spectrum a la Catherine. I won't go into detail so as to not spoil Catherine for anyone, but some of the endings in that game go on crazy tangents in a good way.

It's disappointing when you remember this game was supposed to have multiple endings depending on your choices, but in the end we are left with a completely binary final choice that nullifies everything we've experienced so far.

If there is indeed a season 2, I hope Dontnod take note and try to go for a more ambitious conclusion. All in all I'm happy with the game, but I can't deny the conclusion has left me a bit cold.
 
I think only hugging was a alright enough gesture to say goodbye, it wasn't like it was a bro hug of some kind, it truely felt right to me. I'd like to know your reason why you think they had to kiss to make it any more right though.

because I pushed the whole "Max is in love with Chloe" angle the whole time, heh. Nah I'm just mildly annoyed that a kiss was apparently an option but I didn't get it because I was too nice to Warren
Arcadia Bay was too far gone. Always good to purge a den of assholes and start fresh.
some people go to great lengths to dispose of Warren
 
because I pushed the whole "Max is in love with Chloe" angle the whole time, heh. Nah I'm just mildly annoyed that a kiss was apparently an option but I didn't get it because I was too nice to Warren

Oh I see, I didn't feel any romantic vibes between the two in my game. I mean I know Chloe is gay or at least bisexual, but Max didn't seem to be or never gave me any vibe to it. Hell, even when kissing Chloe in her room, she acts like it meant nothing and if you read the diary, she also sort of explains how it was just a joke and how she did it simply to see Chloe's reaction.

Arcadia Bay was too far gone. Always good to purge a den of assholes and start fresh.

But really, the true asshole in the end is the selfish person making the choice to sacrifice a entire town for one person who should have been dead in the first place.
 
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