QuantumZebra
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I've already bought my daughters lightsabers and masks
probably going to buy tons of SW toys for myself lol
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer
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I've already bought my daughters lightsabers and masks
quickwhips
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Ok maybe but I just thought I would be more excited for it
. Didn't mean derail sorry.Grover Cleveland
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In general, yeah, that would be the best practice. To be fair, people have been complaining about people trying to slide in real spoilers amongst the speculation and guesses before your posts. The line between fun guessing and someone who's actually in the know has become increasingly blurred and it's just best to completely separate the two entirely. At worst, just put a huge disclaimer in your post saying you're actually about to post a real spoiler and not just bullshitting.
I'm one of the "spoiled", but I respect those here who made the choice not to be and wouldn't have the heart to ruin their enjoyment for them.
Dusktildawn48
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Either way Disney making all the moneysOk maybe but I just thought I would be more excited for it
brandonh83
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They wouldn't have hired him if he were a bad director. Kathleen Kennedy is brilliant like everyone working on these movies, and not everyone thinks Colin Trevorrow is a bad director like the vocal minority that didn't like Jurassic World. It's perfectly fine to not like him or that movie, but generally speaking it isn't a common belief. I recall a few years ago when Abrams was announced as director and mostly the same people were upset and accusing Abrams of being a fan-pandering hack.
Man, this is really well done.
Also, on the subject of comic relief, the trailers so far could use a bit of levity. The closest we've gotten is BB-8 being cute and Finn's "OHSHIT" face at the end of this one.
Im also pretty sure no-one will get the freedom JJ has had either
Not to call him merely a "Shooter" but its too important and he will toe the line
On another note. The trailer literally has over 19 million views in less than 24 hours. Crazy.
breadtruck
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NOW its a proper Star Wars movie.
QuantumZebra
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I sincerely hope that JW was crap due to writing and production, not directing.
That entire movie was a cringefest from beginning to end.
brandonh83
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You think it was bad. Again that's fine. But that is not a consensus by any stretch.
QuantumZebra
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True - JJ is laying the foundation for this trilogy. And tbh id trust him over anyone else I can think of (lens flare and camp complaints aside).
Anyone else is just kind of following through. It'll be like a backup QB keeping the game out of reach after a blowout.
Of course its opinion - but the film isn't exactly rolling in glowing reviews. IIRC Rotten Tomatoes and other aggregate sites have it rated as very average to slightly above average (60-70%)
I believe Rian Johnson, the man behind Looper and the forthcoming TFA sequel, is writing the story for Episode 9, so that gives me hope
Shadow Broker
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That's a pretty big appeal to authority. It's fun to be hyperbolic I guess but you seem to have personal stakes...
There's not a consensus that it's good either though...
brandonh83
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Rian Johnson isn't the only person writing on Episode IX. Lucasfilm has a story group that is handling the actual stories, Johnson will be a screenwriter on it but probably not the only one. Trevorrow will have some say in it as he's directing.
I'm Colin Trevorrow's pet mouse named Mickey. Anyway you're not exactly contesting what I stated.
There's never a consensus with anything, some people like stuff and some people don't like stuff. But this isn't something like Transformers 2 which got shitty reviews in addition to shitty word of mouth.
You just know Disney won't allow these movies to fail. If anything they'll be good fun movies that build on each other. I mean it's possible but I don't think the 3 main movies will be awful.
Hard to contest something when you think the disagreement in question is rationalized with a fallacy... What do you say to someone who thinks the people we're talking about can do no wrong?
brandonh83
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The Jurassic World haters are convinced it's going to be bad, which is amusing, and that Kathy Kennedy all of a sudden decided to hire some universally-panned director to helm the finale of the fucking trilogy.
My trust in them outweighs my concern. It's that simple. If Episode VII comes out and the original Abrams haters were right and it's fan-pandering dogshit, we'll talk further.
Doubt we'll see the Jedi at their height ever again. Part of me hopes in the last movie they establish some sort of school or temple again.
Anthology films
I could easily see them make an "Old republic" series, maybe even a tv show
I think in regards to the Episodic films they established a problem where the model for Jedi training was fundamentally flawed and took Luke to openly defy Jedi training to achieve the victory he knew he could.
This is part of the reason why I dont think Luke is training people, because he understands the problems with dogma.
Wasn't JW generally well received? Everyone I've talked said they loved the movie. Then I come here and people trash it?
This is why I watch movies for myself and make my own decisions.
Who said any of that?
It's spectacle. I'll give it that. The plot makes little to no sense, character motivations and common sense don't exist in the movie whatsoever. It's very much a situation where they made too many callbacks to the original without realizing if they should. How's that line from Ian Malcolm in the original movie go...?
Dusktildawn48
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It's a movie that your brain should be turned off. It's a fun ride imo.
Maybe the public prefers the visuals over substance
and it's a good first date movie.
QuantumZebra
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brandonh83
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Trevorrow was given a lot of creative freedom on Jurassic World. Steven Spielberg even said that he kept trying to control as much of it as he could, but that in the end he wanted to back off and let Trevorrow make his own movie. Abrams said that Disney, or Bob Iger specifically, would come in and offer opinions on production and that was about it, that Abrams/Lucasfilm had the most control over it.
There's no reason to think that they're hiring Trevorrow because they think they can "control" him because if there was any shred of logic to that whatsoever, any director, Trevorrow or likewise, would be nailed with the same accusations. I love talking about movies to anyone especially in times of hype, I just wish that some people would bring more to the table than just their own ridiculous and foundation-less assertions as if they're there and know exactly how it works.
Yes. The reviews were pretty good, most people I've talked to loved it (anecdotal!!!) and it made the kind of box office money that suggests that there were plenty of repeat viewings.
To be honest. It's a movie about dinosaurs. No one cares about a deep plot in a movie like that.
Hopefully not. Considering the Jedi at their height were fools who couldnt see what was going on right in front of them, the galaxy is better off.
QuantumZebra
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59% metacritic 71% rotten tomatoes... some people loved it sure, but once the hype and nostalgia settled it wasn't anything to write home about.
Eh. To me it's movie i'd go see just to watch dinosaurs and nothing more honestly. So I mean I guess you're right but I'm not heavily invested in that series anyway. Again many I've talked to said they liked it.
brandonh83
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I don't know, I saw Jurassic World as a totally different movie than Jurassic Park or the previous sequels, it wasn't a retread and had its own story, style and ideas. I certainly didn't like it, even as a long-time fan, just because of "nostalgia" purposes. In fact, I think I would have enjoyed it less if I thought that it relied on nostalgia. Maybe some people just went "oh dinosaurs that look like they did in the first" but that's very simple-minded. It's like looking at Force Awakens and saying "well there's a desert planet like Tatooine so fuck yeah my nostalgia bone has been tickled, day one!"
So if Star Wars for you is just a campy space opera then that's fine. But if someone wants to get deeper into the mythos and is concerned that the people involved have a questionable history I think that's also fine.
The climax of the movie is a retread from a scene from the first movie. It's absolutely absurd on many levels. Even considering the fact it's a dinosaur movie, the idea that everyone should suspend that level of disbelief is a bit much.
QuantumZebra
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Yea I mean GAF in general you're going to see more detailed and critical opinions because id say the majority are enthusiasts of such things.
Just like how id say the majority of people like mainstream pop music but if you go to a music forum pop artists are not likely to be so well-received.
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Extra Sauce
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I would agree if it wasn't for my concern that some people may disguise actual spoilers they've read elsewhere as speculation. Unfortunately it's something I know humans are capable of doing, sometimes not even consciously.
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That's quite nonsensical to be honest. Trevorrow has shown that he can carry the weight of SW9 purely based on the scope of what he attempted to achieve and achieved with JW. JW had it's flaws, but the overall directing and vision of JW assures me that he's a good director with enough creativity to easily board the foundations JJ. is setting with FA.
To be fair the SW plots are very simplistic. Clearly a world has been established with tons of lore. Characters with different backgrounds and motivations are coming together so I don't think it'll be a problem for this movie.
JW isn't a great movie because the story is insanely stupid. As long as Trevorrow isn't writing Star Wars IX it'll be fine.
Do you think SW is more or less complicated than JP? (Since that seems to be a point of contention)
Do you think plot wise that JW was handled well?
I'd say SW is indeed more complicated and JW's plot was very poorly formed.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Minus the light saber I automatically thought of a bunch of frat pledges in Holloween costumes about to get eaten by a land shark
Perhaps you've been watching too much Sharknado.
I have no seen JW. I was just commenting because everyone I've talked to said they liked it and I remember reading it being well received. I'm not really vested into that series though. I just think the dinosaurs are cool lol.
Come on man. I just had a back and forth with you and you haven't seen the movie we're talking about?! :/
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