These changes are just so lame, though I guess expected based on previous raids. Really disappointing. Let's home for some unique weapons at least.
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These changes are just so lame, though I guess expected based on previous raids. Really disappointing. Let's home for some unique weapons at least.
Gothalion just wiped his team because of this.
Apparently it's an explosive effect or something.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Thank fuck for that lol.
Darryl M R
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Got pulled to help a friend out real quick I am just being a sub for them since I wouldn't even be able to stay the full raid :\ sorry man work popped up and I have to head out in a bit. Just going to help out for a bit so they can get progressing
I want some RNG loot doe.Slammin_Hammon
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Thank the traveler!
Yep, which I think is pretty dumb on Bungie's part.
Why? Makes sense to me.
SkylineRKR
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Makes sense to me too.
CE didn't make sense. HM only meant you would never get Normal drops.
Terrordactyl
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Need 1 more for a HM raid, Darryl had to drop
I'll join. Trying to get the cloaks for my hunter.
Inapplicable
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Yeah, upgraded my 310 ghost shell!
It's now 311
It's now 311
They get the normal and hard loot from one run, which I think is nice and efficient for players.
HM so far seems quite fair - some new mechanics but none of the BS that soured me on CE HM.
saveweyard
Banned
Oryx looks like a bitch
So it's dumb that you get extra gear, and at the worst mats and marks? That seems like a good thing to me. The alternative is to not get those things. I'd rather get them. Plus you might get a roll you like better and can then infuse.
Sure, but what would be the MOST efficient would be two drops from the HM loot table like VoG and CE. The problem with CE is that NM weapons were excluded.
Since KF NM and HM are the same weapons with higher attack values, just give me double drops.
Except infusion requires a trail of gear to get to a certain level due to the 80% rule.
TheTylerDurden
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Dumb that you get drops from both loot tables? Or dumb that its possible for nothing to drop from the hard or normal to make the drops looks great/rotten?
Future PhaZe
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no elemental weapons --raid weapons with black and green color scheme and higher light levels
Yeah, but you're just getting extra loot from the NM pool if you haven't done NM yet. It's not like it's taking from something you would have gotten in the HM pool.
SkylineRKR
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True. VoG HM had completely different stuff.
The alternative is to get double HM drops like the other HMs.
TheAquaticApe
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What was different on Oryx? I am watching Unstable.
That's just being greedy. Two separate pools, and if you haven't done NM when doing HM, you get both. That's the most logical setup in my mind.
True, but 2 320 weapons would get you further than 1 310 and 1 320 weapon.
You should get double HM just like the other HMs.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
I didn't see his until the kill of Oryx but I think someone said Knights spawn with the Ogres. Dunno if anything else is different.
Really? I think it won't be long before most folks can beat hard, at least those that can beat normal. The differences appear to be pretty minor and the old strats seem to apply 97% of the time.
Slammin_Hammon
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Néed one more for hard raid! Starting fresh.
And there's still challenge mode
Greedy? It's been that way since Vanilla with VoG and CE. Those were the expectations set by Bungie themselves. This is a step back just like the reduction of motes and strange coin drops.
gutterboy44
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Yep, completely agree. These are really good teams that are clearing it this fast. Some parts looks really tough and thankfully not in a cheap way. Look forward to at least getting up to Golgoroth for a chance at some 320 gear.
There are very few people who have even attempted a raid, any raid, compared to the total pop.
Darryl M R
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312 Ghost
320 Fusion Rifle
320 Fusion Rifle
scarletham
Member
Uuuuh, I think so?
Yeah, I'm worried that our team average light of like 305 might struggle after Golgoroth pending some good drops. It might take a couple raids to get drops and gear up.
No there should be Hard Mode drops too...?
That doesn't make any sense though.
"Hey bungie, I did HM. Now give me HM loot 2x because I didn't do NM yet."
Future PhaZe
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Hm...well, I wasn't expecting my usual group to have tons of trouble with hard mode but we'll see. Right now I'm just hoping to actually get a clear in tonight.
What's this now? First I've heard of it.
What's this now? First I've heard of it.
SkylineRKR
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I'm sure I got 2 Fatebringers from Templar.
But with infusion, 2 320 drops might be overkill.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
The chests were like that from what I remember. At least some of them. Probably the ones that had a chance of dropping exotics.
Tell Bungie that everytime I got 2 Fatebringers.
They are the ones who gave you 2 HM drops if you didn't do NM.
I'm not positive since I only wound up doing VoG Normal once and CE Normal a couple of times (I was LTTP on raids) but weren't chests a oneshot deal per reset regardless of difficulty? Like if you got it on normal nothing would drop out of it on Hard and vice versa? Again only talking specifically about static chests, not bosses/checkpoints etc.
Uhhhh isn't that how the last two raids worked?
OkayRene
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So doesn't this way make more sense then?
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