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Some GAFers believe a Trump nomination would be the undoing of the Republicans. Democrats would reclaim the Senate and House on the coattails of an epic White House victory. It's starting to look like an inevitability that he'll get the nod: So, what if he wins it all? Anything can happen. There are many catastrophic events that could tip the odds in his favor (recession, White House scandal, opponent indicted or hospitalized, etc). I don't even know what a Trump presidency looks like. His top agenda items include instigating a humanitarian crisis and a trade war. Income tax is abolished for most Americans but our national debt is eliminated. Our military is grown so large, terrorists think twice about attacking civilians. Obamacare is repealed but Trump makes a deal with hospitals to offer free care. The press answer to the White House press secretary. The Bible is replaced by The Art Of The Deal as the Oath-taking book.

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He would be met by the realities of politics, give up basically his whole agenda and just be a boring president with funny comments.
 
Nothing really. I'd expect Trump to argue just as much with the Republicans in office as the Democrats.

We would probably have even worse gridlock than we do now until he's replaced in 4 years.
 
Kusagari said:
Nothing really. I'd expect Trump to argue just as much with the Republicans in office as the Democrats.

We would probably have even worse gridlock than we do now until he's replaced in 4 years.
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Trump thinks he will unite the parties. I bet he tries to triangulate between moderate Democrats and Republicans.
 
Honestly? Potential drawbacks in relations with other countries. Further gridlock because it seems not even Republicans want nothing to do with him. People would realize he is full of shit when no wall is actually built, and that he won't actually impact immigration policy because he doesn't have all power like people assume the president does. He would end up disappointing people and would probably not end up getting re-elected, especially since he has no corporate backing. I really doubt things would change with our policy towards ISIS as is.

Ultimately, nothing new. We would have a complete douche bag for a president, though.

Edit: OR, in the unlikely scenario Trump reveals his "trump card" (pun intended), he unites moderates everywhere and shows that he actually "pretended" to be extreme in order to gain the support of lunatics.
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I thought Bush took care of that. I mean, could he possibly be worse than Bush?
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I'd say no, unless he somehow tops the Iraq War disaster.
 
Gridlock is the name of the game. Same deal with Bernie. With a president so far on one end of the spectrum, it's hard to find compromise in the house and senate. Unless Republicans also have control of the house and senate, I'm doubtful much would happen lol. Same dealio with Bernie. This is why it's probably gonna be Hillary and someone like Rubio on the GOP's end of stick. Always best to play it safe.

If Republicans were to have Trump and congress, then yeah, I'm sure a lot of this would go down. But I'm doubtful.
 
btrboyev said:
Can he get the nom if they don't want him? I thought the parties could choose not to nominate someone.
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If he was chosen in the primaries by the people and the base decides not to nominate him, he'd go independent and the Democrats would easily win thr general election. No way the Republicans would want that. They'd rather accept Trump for what he is then lose outright to a Democrat.
 
Then I'll need to find out quickly if any Europeans out there are willing to adopt a 32 year old American.

Seriously though, the world will go on. I do think he does actual harm though. We don't need a hothead in charge of the most powerful and a lot of times blood thirsty county in the world.
 
Hard J said:
Gridlock is the name of the game. Same deal with Bernie. With a president so far on one end of the spectrum, it's hard to find compromise in the house and senate. Unless Republicans also have control of the house and senate, I'm doubtful much would happen lol. Same dealio with Bernie. This is why it's probably gonna be Hillary and someone like Rubio on the GOP's end of stick. Always best to play it safe.

If Republicans were to have Trump and congress, then yeah, I'm sure a lot of this would go down. But I'm doubtful.
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What if Bernie and Trump would combine into Bernard Trumpers?
 
btrboyev said:
Can he get the nom if they don't want him? I thought the parties could choose not to nominate someone.
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If he "wins" the primaries and isn't nominated then there will be a mass revolt and he'll certainly go Independent.

They're handing the election to the Democrats in that scenario.
 
Who the fuck knows really.

His trade policy with regards to China and Japan is to put some guy called Carl in charge to sort them out.

I've no doubt it'd be a disaster but what brand of disaster I can't foresee.
 
As much as GAF likes to believe it would be the end of the U.S. as we know it there would probably be the same amount of noticeable changes as any other presidency, very few.
 
Outside of immigration, there isn't a clear cut domestic issue that Trump comes down as a hard-line conservative, is there? I think there's just such an infatuation with non-standard politicians in small segment of the right (Trump, Carson, Fiorina, etc) that these types of candidates are succeeding on style alone rather than actual policy issues.

I also think that once a dozen or so of the buffoons drop out, Trump is going to lose the plurality of support he has when the Republicans start to line up behind a more establishment candidate like Rubio.

Trump has a great ability to make himself the center of attention. Nate Silver had a great article back in August where he pointed out that over 60% of the Republican party actually has an unfavorable view of him. I don't think that's going to carry him very far.

But to answer the original question, I genuinely believe it wouldn't be as awful as those on the left are making it out to be and not as awesome as those on the right do either.
 
I don't recall anyone saying we'll win the Legislature in the half dozen political threads I've browsed. A landslide for the Presidency sure, but not the House and Senate.

To answer the question I seriously believe Trump will instigate a war because does engage in a lot of brinkmanship. Even though it's an outcome he definitely wants to avoid he can't help himself being a blowhard.
 
jurgen said:
Outside of immigration, there isn't a clear cut domestic issue that Trump comes down as a hard-line conservative, is there? I think there's just such an infatuation with non-standard politicians in small segment of the right (Trump, Carson, Fiorina, etc) that these types of candidates are succeeding on style alone rather than actual policy issues.

I also think that once a dozen or so of the buffoons drop out, Trump is going to lose the plurality of support he has when the Republicans start to line up behind a more establishment candidate like Rubio.

Trump has a great ability to make himself the center of attention. Nate Silver had a great article back in August where he pointed out that over 60% of the Republican party actually has an unfavorable view of him. I don't think that's going to carry him very far.

But to answer the original question, I genuinely believe it wouldn't be as awful as those on the left are making it out to be and not as awesome as those on the right do either.
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Very well stated.
 
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