Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC
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DryEyeRelief
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sixteen-bit
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Why stop there? Maki / Guy pls.
I agree. The more ninja the better!
A really dumb/risky cross up with air kunai. Most of the time people used it (in 3s, since SF4 Ibuki does not exist to me), it was because of execution error when they were trying for a super. I'd be fine if it just didn't return at all, but as a V-skill it kind of makes sense if they soup it up without getting into vortex territory.
Spinosaurus
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I just really hope Ibuki is nothing like in SF4.
Stone Ocean
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Mortal Kombat X had 8 ninjas and sold 5 million copies, wake up sheeple
I agree. I hate her in SF4.
Luckily, this game moves a lot closer to 3s, and with Bison's tele dash, maybe Ibuki can move more like 3s with her awesome dash in that.
DR2K
Banned
Cammy is nothing like her SFIV self. No vortex, but similar move set and tools. System changes and all that changed her.
Scrub Mcgrubb
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I would agree, with the exception being Zangief's CA... that shit has to go.
Shadoken
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And Capcom think Story mode is what makes MK sell more , THOSE FOOLS!!!!
Why does Capcom hate SF1 so much. Why not Geki.
At some point it will happen, they gotta sell us all our characters all over again.
More interested in seeing Ibuki in the game than Honda but I'm also torn cause who will Mike Ross play?
Not really. Everyone who had a VT with a timer, could get a one time powered up move, and people like Nash get a timer to throw more boomerangs.
Wonder if they would let you select VT and CA separately, or if they would tie them all together. Tying them would be more balanceable, but less interesting.
I love Alpha 2, but the damaging counters really bring it down. They should do a little less damage (maybe half as much as they do?) and definitely you should not be able to kill people with them. The killing part is more important than the damage.
They really put the brakes on matches when the opponent has low health and you have one level of super.
SFV not letting you win a round with cheese (except for CAs) is a superb design decision. Easily the best design decision in the game.
TerraziTerrajin
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I wouldn't count on it, everyone can quickrise from everything but some supers now, she won't have vortex BS to rely on now.
I'd be fine with those changes. And I agree about chipping with CAs.
Ibuki should go back to being the pressure and stun monster she was in 3s.
I wonder if they are going to release a version like that later.
Right now they haven't said anything, but maybe once the game has a more established online community that can absorb the inevitable weekly-free-character army that'd happen.
Arc Christelle
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It would be awesome and add a ton to the game if done right. If they go the SF4 route and give most of the characters one that's got far more utility than the other, it's stupid.
I would like for them to not allow chip death in all cases, including CA. It's easy to put someone in a block string and use the CA to kill.
Not sure why they would allow CA to chip kill someone.
Statistical validity is not the same as "useful for marketing." "Worldwide" or no, a massively self-selecting set of internet poll respondents among current fans of Street Fighter who just happened to find the poll doesn't represent the larger population in any way. A character placing high there means nothing statistically as far as what gamers at large would want. That is okay, though! Capcom points to it because it shows where the energies of certain dedicated fans are, and a core group of excited people is a good thing for marketing. Even if it's just 5,000 super-fans on this planet who want Alex or whoever else, these can be useful people for generating discussion on the game. In the end, it brings us back to Capcom's challenge: creating a roster that balances what a mainstream audience will enjoy (classic/novelty ratio) and what a small but dedicated cadre of long-time players will enjoy.
*asks for character popularity in order to decide what characters to bring back in SFV*
*chooses Birdie, one of the less popular characters for the initial roster*
It's easy....if you have super bar.
With how expensive EX moves are that's not a guarantee towards the end of a match.
Gotta leave some way to sure kill the enemy. CA is a good price.
*chooses Birdie, one of the less popular characters for the initial roster*
It's easy....if you have super bar.
With how expensive EX moves are that's not a guarantee towards the end of a match.
Gotta leave some way to sure kill the enemy. CA is a good price.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's why I hope that Hakan would be chosen one in the future. I don't care when.
Shadoken
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Sometimes devs just have ideas that they might want to try out on certain characters and those often get in. I remember during SSF4 dev interviews there were some characters the devs were more interested in bringing over than others despite mainstream or fan popularity.
direct_quote
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Well if they picked the top X for the roster, then we'd know the entire roster lol..
I feel it is obvious the initial SFV roster was just pumped of the missing Alpha people.
Which only makes Sodom's absence more baffling. He is p interesting movement-wise, and is way more popular than birdie.
So they really had an idea for a grappler with long chain based grabs.
It's only missing 7 guys of the top 18 most popular! 61% of predictive power ain't bad. (18 cause I am ignoring the 4 new guys...the next on the list is Claw)
Shadoken
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Yup , TBH when a character is popular it also becomes double edged sword. Because they cant go all out on redesigns.
But Sodom for example can come out as whatever the fuk the dev wants , no holds barred. Its the same way I see how Ryu stays the same while Ken gets experimented on.
Its also evident when you see Gief and Sim. Before the reveals Gief was the big fan favorite so he stayed relatively the same , but Sim? They knew they can do a lot more. And they did. Now hes a lot more hype than Gief.
To be fair, Zangief already had a beard.
You can't improve on a beard.
e: Sodom may have been excluded due to his Final Fight relationship.
I still think we will get a Final Fight Season.
This is obviously the fall-of-shadaloo season, what with Urien, Juri, Boxer and Guile coming.
It is kind of hilarious that Gill is the less popular non-SF1 character. Maybe we will get lucky and Urien will replace him for all intents and purposes in this game. It'd make sense if this is a prequel.
You can't improve on a beard.
e: Sodom may have been excluded due to his Final Fight relationship.
I still think we will get a Final Fight Season.
This is obviously the fall-of-shadaloo season, what with Urien, Juri, Boxer and Guile coming.
It is kind of hilarious that Gill is the less popular non-SF1 character. Maybe we will get lucky and Urien will replace him for all intents and purposes in this game. It'd make sense if this is a prequel.
Beelzebufo
Banned
They improved Zangief visually, it's just only at certain times. I really can't stress enough how this Zangief is better in every way than SF4 Zangief, and a large part of that is how fucking pissed he gets. He's back to the being the guy who'll tear off your arms, which is great. He had more of a behavioral redesign than a costume redesign.
And that win pose, omg. Calm down Zangief.
And that win pose, omg. Calm down Zangief.
I really love this Zangief design. They really went overboard in giving him muscles. He hadn't been this muscular since Alpha 2, and he prolly overdoes that depiction. And yeah, I love the V-Trigger Lariat, and his reaction to being selected on the character selection screen and his red armor. He crazy.
Not convinced about his gameplay changes and CA until I play him, but honestly, design wise Zangief is already on point, and they made him even crazier.
Underrated post right here.
Glad to see my idea IS happening. I don't follow street fighter because I'm terrible at it but I still always pick up the games to play with friends. This is great news!
Shadoken
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I love that angry bit of him too , SF4 with its usual derpiness.
I mean who really got a chance to play him? And hes more or less got Uriens moveset with some broken supers. Gotta say hes got some of the most badass themes,dialogues though. Really fits the stage and story.
But yea I really dont think we'll see him.
I might be remembering wrong, but I don't think any revision of SFIV topped $40 for a new standalone retail copy.
KidA Seven
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Still no Sim footage. The people at Canada Cup are letting us down.
Art posting some stuff about Sim
https://twitter.com/nycfurby?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
https://twitter.com/nycfurby?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
I called this shit though. Same shit as SnakeEyez whining about Gief. At least Arturo added some perspective after. One hour is not enough. It's a new game, you got your boy so I think having to learn how to use him in SFV is more than a fair trade. That feeling when there's a lot to learn. I love it, for some reason some people hate it.
Oh wow, so he really doesn't have a non-meter ol' fashioned Yoga Fire, can't two-in-one off slide, and lost the ability to choose far/close versions of all his grounded normals.
Obviously it's still early, but it sounds like he got changed up more than most of the other returnees.
Obviously it's still early, but it sounds like he got changed up more than most of the other returnees.
I mean, Ken's tatsu knocks down, he can't tatsu backwards in the air, his step kick lost a lot of its effectiveness + no kara, DPs are way riskier than ever before, etc.
Vega isn't a charge character, doesn't have his safe flip kick or escape backflip (I think) or his lame df hk move and has less range on his pokes.
Most of the characters will have to be played differently as compared to previous SF to be effective.
Sim gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPFynNaC24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPFynNaC24
That's true, but some of those basic Sim tools have been with him in every single game since like ST. I think it'd be more analogous to Ryu losing regular access to a straight, full-screen fireball or the like.
Mind you, I'm not passing judgement; it's too early for that. It was just a cursory thought. And if these changes make him more effective, or possibly even more popular, then all the better.
Stone Ocean
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I dunno why you guys are worried about Sim, it's a different game so obviously he works differently and has new stuff / doesn't have stuff that he had in other games like everyone else.
His playstyle seems intact and that's what's important IMO. Balance is irrelevant now.
His playstyle seems intact and that's what's important IMO. Balance is irrelevant now.
Beelzebufo
Banned
That's a good way to put it. He was so derpy in 4, now he's the right kind of ridiculous.
Vaughngief
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Assuming we know the 6 DLC characters from mining the beta who would you think would be the next set of characters? My guesses are Akuma, Dan, Sakura, Blanka, and 2 new characters. Though, I wanna say Cody and Guy. This is assuming we get 6 characters a year (I think that'll change in 2017 though).