Banjo-Kazooie
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Love the fucking 180s in this thread. Thread continues to deliver lmfao
Fallout 4 - PS4 screenshots (now feat. PNGs)
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HA. I knew that as soon as we got some crisp screens this thread would go in a much more positive direction. Maybe now we can leave all that early madness behind.
I mean a guy literally said the game looked like it could run on a PS3, which makes me believe we should outlaw blurry screenshots, forever, lest it poison the young minds.
I mean a guy literally said the game looked like it could run on a PS3, which makes me believe we should outlaw blurry screenshots, forever, lest it poison the young minds.
Yabberwocky
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It's so refreshing to have so much colour!
...only nine days...
...only nine days...
Just looks like FXAA to me. Make sure to view the images at full size.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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i'm no expert but i wouldn't be surprised at 2x msaa w/ post processing applied
Tatsumi Oga
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Those new screenshots also show a fucking awesome atmosphere with that mist and those houses...ah man, lovely. Exactly how i want it to look for a setting like this.
What damage control? They know what their game looks like and isn't worried about NeoGAF going apeshit.
Show us the last gen open world game with that AA and IQ.
It shows the exact same information. The only thing missing is the AP/Ammo Count in some of those shots.
Darkstorne
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Does this confirm they still haven't got reflections working efficiently in their engine? On PC you could force full reflections in Oblivion and Fallout 3/NV, but it was insanely performance expensive. They stripped reflections out entirely from Skyrim except for distant LOD. It's a shame because this isn't something modders can fix.
Trees, buildings, environments next to puddles, ponds, lakes, will never show up in reflections.
rocksteady1983
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Agreed and hopefully they allow opacity adjusting too like the past games.
Shadax the wizard
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Yeah, MSAA was along the lines I was thinking. Can't be FXAA.
Oldest Snake
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Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.
What's the deal with her arm/face?
I don't know if I can. I don't know if I can find a current-gen open world game that has a comparable graphical fidelity, either ... so.
But if AA and IQ are the deciding factors then Fallout 4 looks good, I guess.
Dictator93
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Whatever buffer does that light effect is like quarter resolution and horribly scaled.
Legitmately does not look clean at all.
PS3? Some even said it's like a PS2 game. One guy even said that it looks like a mobile game:
Those new shots are way more colourful by the way. I don't know what's up with those in the OP but especially the first one in the OP looks like someone applied a filter on it.
HardDrive28
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Serious question, why is there such a dramatic difference between the screenshots like these and the ones shinobi602 posted?
http://i.imgur.com/CjnfNsR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1h1zJ0h.jpg
It's not like .jpg files remove shadows and all the other graphics effects
I have this preordered on PC. I have a GTX970 but only 6GB memory... which is below the 8GB minimum requirements.
http://i.imgur.com/CjnfNsR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1h1zJ0h.jpg
It's not like .jpg files remove shadows and all the other graphics effects
I have this preordered on PC. I have a GTX970 but only 6GB memory... which is below the 8GB minimum requirements.
Reflections are really really expensive, so no wonder Skyrim cut them down a bit. I assume the puddles here are just using some cheap cubemap thing, but larger bodies of water might have the same kind of reflections or better than Skyrim.
Probably just screenshot artifacts.
Darkstorne
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I haven't seen any proper reflections in any screenshots yet, so I imagine it's the same as Skyrim - distant LOD reflections only. Shame they couldn't integrate a screenspace reflection system.
Not from a .png screenshot. It's just a low resolution post processing effect. It's common though, and not something you'll likely notice during gameplay.
AA and IQ aren't the only factors. You said for a game only pushing 30FPS, that you'd expect it in a last-gen game. So the natural question, regardless of AA/IQ issues, is "What open world game looks like that. . ."
BigBadGiantHand
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Looks better than I was expecting.
Really pumped for this.
Really pumped for this.
bananafactory
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The main problem with comparing Fallout 4 to other games, is that there's really nothing to compare it to.
No other game is doing what Fallout is in terms of gameplay systems, in a world that large.
No other game is doing what Fallout is in terms of gameplay systems, in a world that large.
The lower quality export is only one factor. The other is that taking good screenshots is an artform unto itself. Many games can look really great or really shitty if you take the right screenshot.
Tatsumi Oga
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The new ones dude, the ones Shinobi posted. Like a world of difference compared to the old ones. Actually his screens should be shown on the first page first, not the old ones.
It's good to see this kind of happiness from people again. Even though some people always say graphics really don't matter that much and as long as the gameplay is good, or like some of my friends who say it could look like Fallout 3 and then in 60fps and they'd be fine with that. I disagree with that though, nice graphics add A LOT to the overall experience. In Fallout 3 when you left the vault and saw the outside...lovely moment. Skyrim when you got outside and saw the mountains, the world for the first time.
All this talk that graphics aren't all that important...disagreeing to the fullest on that.
New pics defiantly look a lot better. Still, I will wait until I play the game myself before fully judging the visuals. You can make almost any game look great or terrible with some smart screenshot tricks. Plus, since I will be playing on the pc, optimalisation will be a big part of how much I can increase the graphics settings. Can't judge that based on pictures.
VisceralBowl
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Low resolution transparencies can cause stuff like that.
The game looks fine to me.
tattooed_dwarf
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Pre ordered today, I can't wait. I have to go midnight release at Gamestop here in Norway so it's ready when I wake up.
FairXchange
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Looking great in the new shots, can't wait anymore!
Oldest Snake
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artsi
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Even between Shinobi's screenshots some stuff looks better and some worse. I think this is a game where you can take hideous screenshots, and then some very beautiful ones in another setting.
Those two images in particular seem to be taken to show how bad the game can look, whereas (at least to me) it seems that most of Shinobi's images were taken to show how good it can look, thus the disparity. Fallout 4, at least for most of the time you play it, will probably look somewhere in-between.
I dunno. Far Cry 4 on PS3? GTA V on PS3? Outside of image quality, looking at things like the assets and LOD, Fallout 4 seems closer to those than it does to their current-gen counterparts.
If it were MSAA the foliage would look worse, because the AA wouldn't apply to the transparencies. They wouldn't be able to afford that on console, it's taxing enough on PC.
Edit - That is, if it were only MSAA. They may be doing MSAA + FXAA to get coverage on the foliage, but it definitely looks like at least FXAA from Shinobi's shots.
Screenspace could still be in I guess, but the puddles on the road might just be a variant of textures and not "proper" geometry and therefore gets a simple reflection.
Also, in regarding to lack of shadows indoors - someone else with the game said that as in the previous games, the Pip-Boy flashlight removes shadows, so that might be the cause.
Which 180? "Oh, the game doesn't look too terrible" or "Graphics don't matte... wait, it actually looks OK. Look at the atmosphere in that shot."
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Please stop ignoring the tonal change of the thread. It went from a high rate of negative posts (several volatile enough for bans) to a low rate.
Tatsumi Oga
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This shot
https://www.anony.ws/i/2015/10/31/Fallout4_20151031152920.png
makes me wonder if those water puddles are always there or if they are created by the rain, much like in GTA V for example. There will be weather conditions, we know that.
https://www.anony.ws/i/2015/10/31/Fallout4_20151031152920.png
makes me wonder if those water puddles are always there or if they are created by the rain, much like in GTA V for example. There will be weather conditions, we know that.
Darkstorne
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I think we'd know about screenspace reflections by now if they were in. There are a few shots showing streams/rivers in the OP and none of them have reflections. Like shadows, it seems to be a part of the engine that hasn't been updated yet. For the most part it's a good looking game though, and I'm looking forward to seeing how much further modders push it =)
SplitYourInfinities
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The game looks great and i'm pretty sure it will play even better. Can't wait.
Yeah I saw the new ones.
They look nice.........but I never had a problem with how the old ones looked anyway.
I like when a game has amazing graphics, but only for the first few hours. After a while I stop caring.
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