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Fallout 4 - PS4 screenshots (now feat. PNGs)
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Tony Hawk is very glad that you've forgotten so quickly.
Gareth Bale
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True, you can't see how bad the LOD is when it's a low shot angled upward, or when there's fog hiding it
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
For me i don't care about the graphics in this game because it's a FALLOUT game and for me that's all.If fallout 4 have the same graphics like fallout 3 for me is ok i don't care.
Landmass apparently is more or less equivalent to Skyrim, just less mountains eating up space and higher content density.
Morning Star
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Those difference between those new screenshots
is like night and day.
and the reactions
PROJECTZERO
Banned
Yeah the new screenshots are really nice. Man im super excited to play. Nov 10th needs to hurry up
Canis lupus
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Yep, looks just like the pc footage, PS360 game that abandoned its last gen roots. Why do people try to deny this, the engine used is 11 years old. If it never started out as a last gen game they'd use a new engine. This doesn't look better than MGS V or other cross gen open world games. The art direction is great though, finally some colors.
Prediction: screens of below area in 4/8K with ENB and tons of filters will be used to claim how good F4 looks! Wow shiny ground!
F3 ENB
Prediction: screens of below area in 4/8K with ENB and tons of filters will be used to claim how good F4 looks! Wow shiny ground!
F3 ENB
I love how clean these look, thanks shinobi, you the real MVP.
thelastword
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Why 1080p 30fps on both consoles though, I'd prefer an unlocked framerate in that case.
Love these shots. November 10th can't come soon enough!Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.
Kralamoonard
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To be honest, even with the new screenshots, it still looks average. Compressed screenshots don't take away with the texture quality on some of the surfaces or the flat look of the lighting in some scenes.
Of course the graphics are not as bad as some people are saying, but they are also not as good as others are saying; the graphics definitely do not hold up against some current-gen only games, open world or not (MGSV as an example, even GTA. It wouldn't surprise me if this was initially planned as a cross gen release but sometime in development, the last gen versions were cancelled (you can definitely not only see the last gen roots in the graphics department, but the animations too). The lighting itself sometimes falls flat against a variety of surfaces present in the game (the PBR shader work doesn't look as good as other current gen games, even for games within the same genre).
However, I am only talking about the graphics here; I'm not taking into account the scale/detail/depth of the world, but even if I were, I still feel as if the graphics are once again, just average and don't scream current-gen to me. With a drop in resolution/AA/texture filtering and frame rate, I could see this being ran on a PS3 (considering the optimisation last gen consoles got from early releases like FO3 to later releases like GTAV, I wouldn't call it crazy to entertain that idea).
Either way, I'm excited for the game because its gameplay and world is where it shines best. It goes without saying that graphics don't determine everything, but I'm just commenting on them as that seems to be what the discussion is about ITT. I hope I'm not offending people by saying that lol.
On another note, I'm more surprised at the fact the consoles aren't running them at 60fps; I reckon with a less demanding AA solution/lower draw distance, this could have ran [at the very minimum of fluctuating/dipping] 60fps. I mean yeah MGSV isn't as ambitious regarding the size/scale/detail of the open world, but it does run pretty much at a locked 1080p 60fps on PS4 AND is better looking, so I would have expected at least an unlocked frame rate that hits 60fps most of the time. But eh, I guess they went with the cleaner IQ approach and 30fps target....it better be locked 30fps then but the age of the engine may possibly hinder that.
Of course the graphics are not as bad as some people are saying, but they are also not as good as others are saying; the graphics definitely do not hold up against some current-gen only games, open world or not (MGSV as an example, even GTA. It wouldn't surprise me if this was initially planned as a cross gen release but sometime in development, the last gen versions were cancelled (you can definitely not only see the last gen roots in the graphics department, but the animations too). The lighting itself sometimes falls flat against a variety of surfaces present in the game (the PBR shader work doesn't look as good as other current gen games, even for games within the same genre).
However, I am only talking about the graphics here; I'm not taking into account the scale/detail/depth of the world, but even if I were, I still feel as if the graphics are once again, just average and don't scream current-gen to me. With a drop in resolution/AA/texture filtering and frame rate, I could see this being ran on a PS3 (considering the optimisation last gen consoles got from early releases like FO3 to later releases like GTAV, I wouldn't call it crazy to entertain that idea).
Either way, I'm excited for the game because its gameplay and world is where it shines best. It goes without saying that graphics don't determine everything, but I'm just commenting on them as that seems to be what the discussion is about ITT. I hope I'm not offending people by saying that lol.
On another note, I'm more surprised at the fact the consoles aren't running them at 60fps; I reckon with a less demanding AA solution/lower draw distance, this could have ran [at the very minimum of fluctuating/dipping] 60fps. I mean yeah MGSV isn't as ambitious regarding the size/scale/detail of the open world, but it does run pretty much at a locked 1080p 60fps on PS4 AND is better looking, so I would have expected at least an unlocked frame rate that hits 60fps most of the time. But eh, I guess they went with the cleaner IQ approach and 30fps target....it better be locked 30fps then but the age of the engine may possibly hinder that.
LookAtMeGo
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I love those night shots. This Fallout is going to be unsettling at night. I wonder what kinda creepy things only come out at night..
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Same here.Yeah the new screenshots are really nice. Man im super excited to play. Nov 10th needs to hurry up
GTR R35_Supra RZ
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Edit. Wrong quote.
The problem with the original pics weren't only that they're compressed, they're washed out and the color is all wrong. No, png's don't magically add missing effects and draw distances, that's besides the point, how can we possibly judged the graphics properly if the screens are aren't correctly captured?
The new pics look much better and it definitely does not look like Fallout 3.
The new pics look much better and it definitely does not look like Fallout 3.
ShooterMcGavin
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Lol, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 and it's not close.
neoism
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ohh man i cant wait lol.. :O... cant wait to play at night... i alway play fallout 100% stealth at night.. game looks good..PS4 .png's
lol this thread...
Darryl M R
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Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.
Now these shots look so much better than the first ones posted. I'm happy to play the game soon.
Aww you don't have to
Tony Hawk isn't even the worst, to be honest. It's bad, but there are definitely uglier games abound.
SamualDude
Member
Looks good! I can't wait to play it!
packy34
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It's going to look much smaller on the PC after the FOV is adjusted though.
Anything can look bad with selective imagery and bad capture methods. Also those pics looked a lot more washed out than the direct feed posted by Shinobi by default.
Yeah, Fallout 3 looked like shit on console, and so i don't expect fallout 4 to win any awards either, but the art direction and technical chops are satisfactorily average
Mechanized
Member
This game is absolutely breathtaking. Beautiful. Cannot wait to play this for an insane amount of time.
FunkyDealer
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It doesn't look amazeballs, but that ain't why I game anyways. I'm sure it'll fine. I adjust quickly, feel sorry for the fools with "high standards".
I posted this in another thread a month ago and the Bethesda fanboys asked if I was serious.
Hope there's a pink hud (though I doubt it).
Gemüsepizza
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The new screenshots look a lot nicer, they are sharper and colors are better. But...
This. They are also misleading. It's very obvious that they have been taken in a way to hide the flaws of their engine.
This. They are also misleading. It's very obvious that they have been taken in a way to hide the flaws of their engine.
Those who have suddenly made a turnaround opinion based on the PNGs don't seem to have understood the criticisms of the first screenshots, especially the open vista. The PNGs are very carefully framed to avoid showing these issues.
This is a screenshot thread, and therefore other subjects have little relevance, but my lack of enthusiasm for Fallout 4 has more to do with key design decisions such as a voiced PC, a dialogue square, and little to no information about skill checks. In addition, Bethesda's recent history has been very poor with regards to writing, world-building, quest design, and implementing RPG systems.
This is a screenshot thread, and therefore other subjects have little relevance, but my lack of enthusiasm for Fallout 4 has more to do with key design decisions such as a voiced PC, a dialogue square, and little to no information about skill checks. In addition, Bethesda's recent history has been very poor with regards to writing, world-building, quest design, and implementing RPG systems.
boredandlazy
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Pretty much.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Are the new shots from Bethesda or "leaked"?
Because the difference from jpg to png is no where near that big. The Console Screenshot thread proves that as such. They are cleaner in that thread, but not color popped, etc.
These new ones look WAY better.
I will admit, it looks like a difference from a pre-patched game, and a patched one for instance... so something does not seem kosher with either those original leaked ones, or the new ones.
I would be careful about saying that on this forum. Especially knowing some of the posters on here who, yes, are well versed in "graphics rendering and computation".
Because the difference from jpg to png is no where near that big. The Console Screenshot thread proves that as such. They are cleaner in that thread, but not color popped, etc.
These new ones look WAY better.
I will admit, it looks like a difference from a pre-patched game, and a patched one for instance... so something does not seem kosher with either those original leaked ones, or the new ones.
I would be careful about saying that on this forum. Especially knowing some of the posters on here who, yes, are well versed in "graphics rendering and computation".
Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.
ignoring very first quest, turning off HUD, and walking in complete random direction exploring abandoned houses. headphones required. directly into my jugular artery.
Kralamoonard
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I mean it's not crazy to entertain that thought that with some lower IQ shown in the PNG pictures (through using a less demanding AA solution), and possibly lowering the draw distance, I don't see why these consoles couldn't run FO4 at the very least of a fluctuating 60fps that hits the target most of the time (unless there's some restraints in the engine of course). I mean like I said, MGSV does look better AND does run at a locked 60fps on these consoles, even if its scope is less than FO4.
It better be locked 30fps on consoles then if they're not going to unlock the frame rate.
Rebel Leader
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kamineko
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I'm worried about the systems, too. Some of the comments about weapon accuracy in a post-skill world have concerned me.
The game looks like I have expected ever since e3, both the good and bad.
Kralamoonard
Member
So are you able to enlighten us with your knowledge of rendering and computation and convince us that this game looks more than "average"? I mean no offence of course, but you've opened yourself up to that question by writing a sweeping (and patronizing remark) to all the people complaining about visuals in that they don't know anything. I'd be glad to be proven wrong that these visuals aren't worth complaining about, I've got an open mind, honest.
Maybe my post was too subtle.
Knowledge on how it's produced doesn't change that the game looks like garbage, just our perception of the developer who had to make it (and consumers don't give a shit about that).
VanCityGamer
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Has it been confirmed that we can turn off the HUD on consoles?
We already know there are tons of skills checks and the fact that the protagonist has over 13k lines proves that.
BlitzerRadic
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Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.
Windows are textures
to be expected when there are no seamless interiors
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