Halo 5 sales in the UK [Excludes digital sales]

Vinc

Member
This is sad, it's by far the best exclusive of the console so far, and the best Halo game in years.
 
So Halo is the top selling beating the second one by almost 50% and still the worst selling of its kind. Halo used to be a monster. I guess nothing else sold when it was at its prime.

The latter is not true at all: for example, Halo 2 launched just after GTA San Andreas. Halo 3 launched just before COD4.

All that's happened is Halo 5 is the biggest selling game of the week but has still sold less than all of its predecessors since the original game.
 
Considering how badly Bungie screwed up with Destiny I will not be surprised if Destiny 2 sees a drop even worse than Halo 4 to Halo 5.

No it won't.

Lots of people still play it. Just because you and a few people on GAF don't like it doesn't mean the rest of the world does. It's the most played game on PSN and Xbox live alongside GTA, I bet.
 
Considering how badly Bungie screwed up with Destiny I will not be surprised if Destiny 2 sees a drop even worse than Halo 4 to Halo 5.

I'd actually say the contrary. The install bases will be far bigger and by what I've seen and heard (I've long stopped playing) they put a lot right with TTK expansion. If Bungie and marketing plays it right, Destiny 2 could be something else and be even bigger.
 
I'm honestly extremely surprised by Halo 5s Twitch viewer numbers.

It barely ever breaks 2500 if even 2000. Only on the first day or two did it have bigger numbers that then immediately fell off.
Now it's not even in the top 10 of watched games.

I would have expected a huge franchise like Halo to be much higher for longer.

Twitch is very specific in the type of games that are successful in the streaming scene. Destiny for example was a lot lower shortly after launch as well but since then it has managed to craft a niche of a few streamers that make a living out of it streaming Destiny (goth, krafty, lauren, etc). These are the kind of streamers that a game needs to have to be "healthy" on twitch. Its quite rare for this to happen since becoming big on twitch is mostly luck. Seems like Destiny opened up opportunities for a few people to take this role and it remains to be seen if Halo 5 will manage to do the same. I kind of doubt it though.
 

Sinfamy

Member
Aside from Halo: Combat Evolved for PC, I never cared much for Halo, however this is the only time that a Halo game just came and went and I didn't even know it was out until a week after it's release.
 
Considering how badly Bungie screwed up with Destiny I will not be surprised if Destiny 2 sees a drop even worse than Halo 4 to Halo 5.

It's amazing how wrong you are, outstandingly so.

Numbers have gone up in terms of sales and player count has increased and holds steady.

Destiny 2 will likely be bigger, if not just as big.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Same thing happened when Forza6 didn't chart in The US. All of a sudden everyone bought the game digitally.

Really? Seemed like far more people commented on sim racing not being a big genre in the U.S..

Anyway, thread title does need to be change if it did better than the first Halo in the U.K.. Still doesn't change the fact that people expected it to do better though.
 
Keep in mind it launches on a much smaller console base and a significantly bigger digital sale ratio, we are not seeing a full picture here.
 
Confused if this is COMPLETE sales, or just stand alone, physical copies.

Either way, with the comparisons to others all being the same style of sales, it is incredible that it could be the lowest selling of the franchise.

I'm interested to see if Microsoft comes out and talks up how big the release was in the US. I feel like they always have for Halo, so if they don't for this one, it is not good news.
 

Cheech

Member
Not too surprising, really. Launching a week apart from Black Ops 3 showed a lot of hubris, even for Microsoft.

That player base has moved on to other games.

I'm not sure how much MCC really affected the equation here; our memories tend to be notoriously short.

The real question is how many consoles were sold in the Halo launch window. If it can't even push hardware at this point, they might as well Killzone the franchise and have that gifted team at 343 do something else.
 
Anecdotal evidence, but I run a small chain of indie gamestores in the states and it's our worst selling Halo launch ever. We've been in business since 1994.
 

Into

Member
Ill wait for more info but

Halo 5 does not seem to have the same momentum that mainline Halo games used to have, even Reach had more momentum. Halo 4 and MCC did not do it favours

Halo used to have a big marketing push here, Master Chief cardboard cutouts, commercials, soda drinks with Halo logo, posters everywhere, yet Halo 5 is just a game on a shelf, no different than Syndicate, Evolve, Pro Evo etc. From what i played of H5, i though the MP was really good

Who knows, maybe in other parts of the world that same heavy push that Halo always got is still present. But the title seems to have almost no momentum and its just another game, which a mainline Halo should not be considering the pedigree
 

Markoman

Member
Surprise, surprise...what did people expect?
The franchise has been around for 15 years now and not much has changed.
Even COD is in decline though they were changing scenarios over the last 15 years at least 3 times.
I have played every Halo game until 5 and guess what - people get bored with doing the same stuff over and over and from what I've been hearing Halo 5 is great but it's also more of the same.
FPS games have simply been played to death last gen and folks are moving on. Who would have thought...
 

Synth

Member
In the UK? I like to give more people credit to not pay the digital tax we have.

I'm in the UK, so you can give me more credit. I bought a digital copy off the US store. Was cheaper than retail, and my brother gets a copy to use on his Xbox by default.
 
J

JoJo UK

Unconfirmed Member
I'm not sure if it's already been asked/answered but does anyone know who digital sales would be counted? I assume it's by the store they were bought from, not the location where the sale was made, ie. someone in the UK buying from the the US store would class as a US purchase?

I know 1 person that bought H5 physically, everyone elase I know bought digitally and most from the US store in order to save a few quid. Also thinking about it this was also the first Halo where I only needed to buy one copy for my son and I. In saying that I'm not sure if that would have a massive effect on sales as I dn't think many other people are doing the whole 'set an XB1 as home console and signing into another' thing.
 
Rest of Europe is probably even lower...
That's exactly the stake here. UK is basically the second biggest market for Xbox outside of North America, so if a flagship title sees a significant drop there, it means Xbox is even more NA-centric than before. - barring a similar drop in NA, which I don't expect.
 
Ill wait for more info but

Halo 5 does not seem to have the same momentum that mainline Halo games used to have, even Reach had more momentum. Halo 4 and MCC did not do it favours

Halo used to have a big marketing push here, Master Chief cardboard cutouts, commercials, soda drinks with Halo logo, posters everywhere, yet Halo 5 is just a game on a shelf, no different than Syndicate, Evolve, Pro Evo etc. From what i played of H5, i though the MP was really good

Who knows, maybe in other parts of the world that same heavy push that Halo always got is still present. But the title seems to have almost no momentum and its just another game, which a mainline Halo should not be considering the pedigree

Did you miss all the adverts?
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
(Just seen the other thread but its just a rehash of the pal thread without telling people why the sales are noteworthy)

Whilst we do not have the first games numbers it appears to be the worst or second worst selling based on how the first game did. Halo Wars is a spin off gameplay wise so not really a good comparison;



I feel this is quite a worry that Halo has become more niche and sold to a more core base tban a wider audience - this is supposed to be their flagship franchise.

The question is how many people in the UK purchase digitally, and at that from XBL marketplaces outside the UK due to the insane local digital prices. Personally I bought it from the US so I'm not counted for UK.
 
Not surprised.

Expect multiplayer numbers to fall off in the coming weeks.

Of course. Blops3 and Battlefront will steal some players and potential buyers.

Where's that infamous graph of the player count falling drastically for Halo 4 after Blops II came out? Could be a repeat situation.
 

Hasney

Member
I'm in the UK, so you can give me more credit. I bought a digital copy off the US store. Was cheaper than retail, and my brother gets a copy to use on his Xbox by default.

Oh totally, I do that all the time on PS4 as well. But then, even if digital sales were counted, we wouldn't be counted in UK numbers.
 

Markoman

Member
Keep in mind it launches on a much smaller console base and a significantly bigger digital sale ratio, we are not seeing a full picture here.

That is no argument. That is MS kind of spinnig the logic.
Even if we keep that in mind,Halo 5 still doesn't seem to sell consoles in UK.
 
It's the first Halo that didn't create any buzz in my circle of friends (it's a small circle so it doesn't say much for the overall situation).

Just by looking at gaf threads it seem less in the spotlight than previous installments here though I wouldn't be surprised if my memory is playing tricks on me.

It's like "another episode of a Halo themed game has come out" withouth splitscreen and more build for the pro-mp player base than usual. It's not the big next game, the big 5, the long awaited sequel everyone was anxiously waiting for. That's how it feels like at the moment.
 

Coxy100

Banned
That's exactly the stake here. UK is basically the second biggest market for Xbox outside of North America, so if a flagship title sees a significant drop there, it means Xbox is even more NA-centric than before. - barring a similar drop in NA, which I don't expect.

A touch dramatic to say that no? It's just 1 game.... If every title sells less here now then fair enough but if not...
 

Doffen

Member
Rest of Europe is probably even lower...

How could you say that? Look at this awesome exposure during the launch day in Norway:

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This site even scored the game 9/10.
 
Keep in mind it launches on a much smaller console base and a significantly bigger digital sale ratio, we are not seeing a full picture here.

XBone sales in the UK should be a little higher than 360 sales at the same time frame (it took 360 another 6 months to hit 2m which is where the XBone should be now or thereabouts) when Halo 3 launched. Yes, these don't include digital but even if you say digital at the very most is 50% of retail here, you are still looking at (outside of the original Halo) the lowest selling mainline Halo game ever by quite a margin.
 
The fact that MS hasn't made a comment about the game's sales makes me think it may have underperformed worldwide. I kinda fear for the population, the anemic list of gametypes, the aiming system that many are having issues with and then CoD and BF being right on the horizon makes me think the game could have a bumpy holiday.
 
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