Halo 5 sales in the UK [Excludes digital sales]

Less relevant yes, and not comparable as the market has changed. The only thing that's certain is more people buy digital now than before.

People can throw whatever percentage they like out for how much is digital, aiming high or low, but those figures are at best an average and at worst just made up...

I don't know or care if this is the lowest selling Halo game (I haven't even bought it) but just pointing out that neither does anyone else, and these figures don't prove a thing either way.
Untrue. The figures are not an average or made up, they are exactly what they say they are. Retail sales in a market where digital is still very small compared to physical due to insane pricing of digital products vs the buying power of Amazon and supermarkets.

Claiming they mean nothing is pointless, they are a better guide for discussion than anything else we have when considering the UK market.
 
Wrong in what? The only thing I said was I feel like digital is outselling physical. I don't believe that anymore, but we don't have any hard numbers. You never know, it could of done.


Even with all the evidence given to you in this thread and the OP, your mental gymnastics remain grade-A.
 
But you thought digital was outselling physical... 9 to 1 is digital outselling physical...

But because you didn't say those exact words you weren't claiming they were representative. Ok got it.
What? I initially had the thought of digital outselling physical. I never stated any exact numbers, just said that very statement. It'd be ridiculous to think it was anything as huge as that number. I mentioned my friends as an example of a sales trend, not a statistic for Pete's sake. Stop twisting my words.
When Chobel quoted the EA financial report, which I hadn't seen before, that changed my views on the matter.

except you and/or your game sharing buddies didn't even buy the game in the eu, so no it wouldn't.
I know, and I've said that many, many times in this thread. Which led me onto me stating whether the numbers of a split being accurate in the first place. Imagine if 1 in 5 people game shared and bought from a foreign store. That's 20% of the numbers you're not accounting for. That doesn't sound too out there.
 
Wrong in what? The only thing I said was I feel like digital is outselling physical. I don't believe that anymore, but we don't have any hard numbers. You never know, it could of done.

We don't have any hard numbers, but we have clues from other publishers like EA and Ubisoft. What kind of evidence suggests that Halo 5 will be the exception to the rule?
 
If this is the lowest-selling mainline Halo entry (which I naturally expect it to be) you can bet your savings that MS will muddy the waters with the numbers and the digital vs. physical drama will make for some great threads as fanboys try to fend off the doom and gloom stealth attacks.

We don't have any hard numbers, but we have clues from other publishers like EA and Ubisoft. What kind of evidence suggests that Halo 5 will be the exception to the rule?

The same exception that says Uncharted 4 will outsell Halo 5 in a non-holiday month with twice as many digital sales as physical.
 
We don't have any hard numbers, but we have clues from other publishers like EA and Ubisoft. What kind of evidence suggests that Halo 5 will be the exception to the rule?
Nothing! I'm not saying it will be. You just never know, and we'll probably never find out.
 
Dude we have numbers from companies themselves. digital accounts for about 20%. If Halo 5 sold that much digitally in the UK it still would have sold less than both Halo 3 or 4.

NPD threads aren't discounted because digital isnt' shown. I wish we had that data but most people still buy their games physical.

I get that, but like I said, it's an average and surely something like Halo, which people tend to keep not trade will be on the higher end of the scale?

So like I said, conclusions are being drawn with everyone fully aware that the data is massively incomplete.

I have no dog in the fight. Haven't bought it, will probably get it in a sale at some point down the line. Just seems weird to me.

Not trying to stifle discussion, just pointing out that the thread is light on actual facts, but full of entrenched opinion...
 
Seeing how the numbers don't include digital, I'm sure that if you were to include it, it would Match, if not narrowly miss the match the sales of retail... mainly because if there is one series Xbox has which everyone pretty much agrees benefits from digital, that would be Halo

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That's what it looked like for me last night...

Evidently the European crowd is more into fifa then halo.

You are getting the rank from the Xbox Marketplace right? I dont know, I doubt that this ranks are regional, so You might have seen it in a low traffic moment for Halo, I expect this game to be knocked out from been in regular first place as soon as CoD is playable.
 
Wrong in what? The only thing I said was I feel like digital is outselling physical. I don't believe that anymore, but we don't have any hard numbers. You never know, it could of done.

Until there is a precedent that shows a title selling more digitally than physically (which I don't think has happened), then why even bother entertaining such a ridiculous notion?
 
Until there is a precedent that shows a title selling more digitally than physically (which I don't think has happened), then why even bother entertaining such a ridiculous notion?
I still personally think it'll be higher than 20%.

That's my opinion, and I'm perfectly inclined to have one.
 
Digital attatch will be 20% at MAXIMUM

This is a poor performance any way you want to spin it.

Yea. I'm not getting why people are hanging their heads so high on digital sales. When typically the game costs more digitally and people can buy the game cheaper via trade ins/store credit. Not to mention they can eventually trade in the game if they buy digitally.
 
I still personally think it'll be higher than 20%.

That's my opinion, and I'm perfectly inclined to have one.

By saying over 20%, do you mean closer to 90%? Serious question. And hey, you're entitled to hold any opinion you'd like, but don't think people ought to take your opinion seriously if it's unfounded and baloney.

It's like purposeful ignorance despite evidence showing what digital sales are normally like.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.
 
The Halo series has been slowly fading into irrelevance since Call of Duty 4 turned the FPS landscape on it's head.

Bungie finished the story with 3. It should have ended there. MS keeps milking a tired and dead horse for every drop they can get though. Not surprised at all by 5's performance.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

I think it's been stated in this thread that the Xbox one is around the same as the 360 when Halo 3 launched. Now that might be WW. Not sure if UK was specified.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

XB1 is slightly more than 360 at the same point in time.
 
By saying over 20%, do you mean closer to 90%? Serious question. And hey, you're entitled to hold any opinion you'd like, but don't think people ought to take your opinion seriously if it's unfounded and baloney.

It's like purposeful ignorance despite evidence showing what digital sales are normally like.
Nah, I'd say in the initial week, around 40%~. Although, like I've stated previously, I can imagine that dropping week by week.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

No, about the same if not higher than the 360 was when Halo 3 launched with likely at least twice as many sales.

In other words, fucking terrible for Xbox's flagship title.
 
Digital attatch will be 20% at MAXIMUM

This is a poor performance any way you want to spin it.

What would be considered a good performance? Because I don't even think MS would have expected this installment to match what the series has done at the peak of its existence...

I keep hearing people say shit like... The circumstances are the same for when Halo3 launched... No they fucking aren't...
 
Nah, I'd say in the initial week, around 40%~. Although, like I've stated previously, I can imagine that dropping week by week.

If it had 40% digital attatch on launch for a console game it would be the new record for any AAA game.

I mean not impossible I guess but its very very very unlikely. If you want a safe prediction go for 15% to 20%
 
So every single game sells exactly 20% digitally and 80% physically?

And that's not an average or made up?

Really?
Ah, sorry, I read it as if you were disputing the retail sales numbers, apologies.

Still, that digital sales are still a small percentage in the UK is hardly likely to change overnight considering market conditions.
 
Is is only cause its Halo, or is "but teh digitals!" and "install base!" gonna be the default excuses from now on every time a game under-performs?

Halo 5 is the best playing Halo since 2 so maybe it will be a slow burn as word of mouth spreads.

By the time WoM spreads CoD and BF will have come out...
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

I think some one mentioned earlier that the XB1 is actually ahead of the 360.

edit - beateeeeeeeeeeen
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

Why the "lol" if you weren't even sure of the actual data?
 
What would be considered a good performance? Because I don't even think MS would have expected this installment to match what the series has done at the peak of its existence...

I keep hearing people say shit like... The circumstances are the same for when Halo3 launched... No they fucking aren't...

Closer to Halo 3 / Reach / 4 numbers.
 
It's at the top of the UK chart, without even including digital sales. And this is only for UK, not even Xbox's main market. What is everyone getting all upset about, lol. Just because it didn't out sell Halo 4(yet, will likely eventually)? Let me quote the Eurogamer article:

"did not match the sales performance of Halo 4. Although that isn't too surprising - Halo 4 launched in 2012 on Xbox 360, with a far larger and more mature sales base. Xbox One is just two years old."

So of COURSE its not going to outsell Halo 4,a game launching on a console already 7 years into it's lifecycle, at launch. And XB1 sales arent bad either overall, outpacing 360. And the game's online/networking is really great. No problems unlike MCC. Everyone said 343 had to make sure it launched with no issues, and it succeeded in that. So that will obviously win back a lot of bad will people still had over MCC.

So chill, lol. Enjoy the game.
You know Halo 3 sold twice with even lower userbase than Xbone in UK.
How do you explain Halo 5 compared with Halo 3?
Eurogamer is just trying to make something bad looks less bad.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.

No, XBones is higher. Should be nearling 2m where it took the 360 another 6 months (April 08) to get to 2m with an extra Xmas' under its belt to boot.
 
lol

Isn't the XB1 install base in the UK much smaller than the 360 at the same point its lifespan? I thought the 360 was very popular over there. If true, then these numbers mean nothing as they are presented. Need more data to really see what percentage of owners bought the game.
360 was at 1.3m at Halo 3 launch.

The numbers show considerable growth from 2007 – both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 have shifted a million units since the same period last year when their installed base was 0.4 million and 1.3 million, respectively.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/console-installed-base-almost-doubles-in-uk

PS. I just posted again to show the source.
 
No, about the same if not higher than the 360 was when Halo 3 launched with likely at least twice as many sales.

In other words, fucking terrible for Xbox's flagship title.

It's not 2007 anymore though, Halo was a lot bigger in terms of mind share for console shooters back then.
 
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