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[Neff]

Hey folks, quick question. Im wanting to go sneaky, and invest in mister sandman for the silenced weapon damage. But...when am I going to actually get silenced weapons? Even with gun nut, seems like it'd take till level 18 to slap a scope on a pistol. I assume that's when I'll start finding silenced weapons, or in Diamond City?

Im honestly a bit torn about specializing in rifleman or what have you, don't want to limit myself from the majority of the weapons in the game by speccing into a class.

It won't take you long to find a suppressed weapon. Alternatively you could tag the pieces you need for a suppressor for a specific weapon and just scavenge until you meet the requirements to build one.

I've gone with rifle perks myself, rocking guns for both 50cal and .308, and I'm destroying.

 

[idonteven]

WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU GET THAT JETPACK? ._.

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close to the end of all the brotherhood of steel missions

 

[Easton Dark]

Diamond City, which actually looks more like a small town, is in the heart of downtown Boston next to super mutants and crazy Raiders. Why? How do these people feed themselves? Their is a small plot of farm land in the city but it's FAR too small to sustain the population of the city. Why is the water purifier seeming run by a little kid? Why does he then sell the purified water? Wouldn't it make sense for water to be free for all citizens? How do cooks get their meat? What about Goodneighbor, what do they eat? They have zero farm-able land in the town or anywhere nearby. Where do they get water?

New Vegas is a strip mall directly next to a large group of raiders and sandwiched between two Deathclaw nests. The scale is such because these games run on systems with limitations on how big the world can be.

Diamond City is a trade hub, as New Vegas was. You can't tell me the NCR sharecropper farms would be enough to feed everyone either? Again, scale issue.

I'm not sure why it's a problem for a kid to run the purifier if they have the know-how. If you have an interesting conversation with the Brotherhood of Steel quartermaster, he'll tell you he charges soldiers for their own equipment so that he can buy better stuff for them down the line. Makes sense to extrapolate that to other professions in the game. Also, if water costs money, that's a good incentive for citizens in Diamond City to not just sit on their asses, and to actually contribute to improving the city so that they can make money to live.

Meat comes from the creatures roaming around. Where do you get meat from?

There's no farmable land or water near Goodneighbor? There's farms literally all around the Commonwealth that will likely sell their surplus food to them. If you notice, when you return to settlements and ask settlers to trade, they always have some new bottlecaps on them. This says to me they trade for stuff. There's caravans that make rounds between these farms.

Water pumps give all the water settlements could need. There's a huge bay and a river that runs right by all of them.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Ad Victoriam!
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Iv gotten attacked around 7 times now. Pretty easy to defend. I just like the base aspects. Feels like the player has home to go back to. Plus I feel like Queen of the Commonwealth right now.

I love my character, im sadly running out of things to do D:

 

[Tainted]

Why do some of my landmarks say cleared on the map and others don't? There are some I know I completely exhausted and it doesn't say clear.

From my experience...there is usually a legendary enemy (or one with a star next to their name) at each location which needs to be killed before a location gets the [cleared] tag

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Charisma pays off later. Right now you need to find a decent weapon. If you go to

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vault 88 just left of diamond city

and go do the couple quests there you will be able to purchase the

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overseers guardian

This gun changed everything for me.

Thanks! I'll do that one ASAP.

 

[ffejeromdiks]

Soooo settlement building is total shit, right? I finally attempted to build up Sunshine Tidings co-op and a boathouse and the interface and controls for building things is some of the worst I've ever seen in any game. That's not even hyperbole, only certain objects snap to eachother and if they do, you can't pivot them for precision. The uneven ground of the entire world means that certain fences and buildings are just awkwardly floating about 6 ft off the ground.

Why do I keep hearing people speak such praise about this? Its easily the weakest part of the game so far, which says a lot because the vague dialogue system is also hilariously bad in a Mass Effect 1 sort of way.

On a brighter note: I'm really digging the more dense world and the gunplay. They're actually a bigger improvement than almost anything else in the game. But man did I want the settlement stuff to be good, I'm a huge sucker for base building in games but this is just unbelievable trash.

I feel like we're playing different games here, some pieces incorrectly snap true, but it's usually due to whatever angle your standing at in relation to the object, you just gotta find the sweet spot, or build around it and save the piece that won't snap for last. I think it's pretty damn robust for a game designed for a controller.

I do find myself switching to keyboard and mouse for more precision, but I think they did a pretty damn good job with the creation suite in general, I think I might have been burned out already by the base game if not for the limitless creativity you can achieve with the settlement system.

 

[BizzyBum]

I asked earlier and someone said over time they respawn enemies.

Oh, that's kinda lame. So some places will always respawn enemies meaning it won't ever show it cleared?

 

[lowhighkang_LHK]

And there's a perk rank that makes the tagged items actually glow when you're close to them I believe.

Me and you both started playing at the same time on hard mode. I'm level 25 now, and hard mode is turning into a joke. I can one to three shot everything. Thinking about going on very hard. Plus I want more legendary gear. How are things for you?

 

[everyday math]

Oh, that's kinda lame. So some places will always respawn enemies meaning it won't ever show it cleared?

Yes.

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The National Guard base is one that does that. Different enemies can spawn tho.

 

[B-Dex]

So somehow the entirety of Diamond City hates me and attacks me on site. Can't complete a main story quest now.

 

[CecilRousso]

TW3's immersion problems are very minor compared to FO4, as you said the biggest one for me is the amount of monsters literally just outside a village. However, even I can look past that since people are always talking about their loved ones being kidnapped, murdered, or having a cursed placed on them in every town. FO4, on the other hand, makes no narrative sense on any level. I can slightly look past the 300 years later aspect but the basic design of the world makes no sense.

I wouldn't call that a minor issue in The Witcher 3 games. I would call that being at least as a big of an issue as the time aspect in the recent Fallout games. And just as Bethesda should have been able to explain that by now, CD Projekt should have thought and fixed that problem by now, considering it has been an "in your face"-issue since The Witcher 1.

So while you're absolutely right to call out Bethesda on this issue, let's not give CD Projekt a free pass when they're also struggling with the same immersion issues.

Diamond City, which actually looks more like a small town, is in the heart of downtown Boston next to super mutants and crazy Raiders. Why? How do these people feed themselves? Their is a small plot of farm land in the city but it's FAR too small to sustain the population of the city. Why is the water purifier seeming run by a little kid? Why does he then sell the purified water? Wouldn't it make sense for water to be free for all citizens? How do cooks get their meat?

Well, as I understand it, a lot of it is by trade, and you do see the armed traders going about their business. Their neighbour, Vault 81 explains in detail how they are depedent on traders, so it's reasonable to think that the major nearby city that everyone talks about, also attracts traders.

And considering that Diamond City is Fenway Park, you cannot really expect acres of farmland there, while it's reasonable to consider a stadium being the point where humans take shelter. That's actually something we have seen IRL. So a combination of farms and trades explains that.

And while it's not perfect, I think we can give Bethesda some credit for taking at least some steps towards making Fallout 4 reasonable, when you compare it Fallout 3, where they gave no fucks whatsoever to that aspect.

As for the amount of super mutants in the game, that is weird. I have posted that a couple of times in this thread, and I hope a mod will fix that. It's just as annoying as the hordes of drowners in The Witcher 3, and something the developers should have thought about

New Vegas was a relatively good example of how this should be handled, where super mutants, ghouls and raiders all were found where they made sense in the context of the map.

When you look back at FO4 you understand why nothing makes sense. You have these farms/settlements out in the wild in FO4 when in reality they should be closer to Diamond City.Why would you build yourself a farm right next to a steel mill home to the most crazy Raiders possible?

Aren't we talking about the same issue as in The Witcher 3, which you deemed minor?

At least in Fallout 4, the ones living outside are armed, and the farmers next to sanctuary actually talks about how they're giving in to the demands of the raiders, and how their daughter was killed when she opposed them. And the settlement mechanic really points towards the need for defence for any type of larger settlements to survive.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Which perks are the best for maximizing Power Armor usage and usefulness?

 

[Tainted]

So somehow the entirety of Diamond City hates me and attacks me on site. Can't complete a main story quest now.

I remember reading this on reddit, it was caused by accidently shooting a guard or stealing something. They fixed it by going to Sanctuary, building a bed, sleeping for 48hrs and then returning

 

[Brakke]

Soooo settlement building is total shit, right? I finally attempted to build up Sunshine Tidings co-op and a boathouse and the interface and controls for building things is some of the worst I've ever seen in any game. That's not even hyperbole, only certain objects snap to eachother and if they do, you can't pivot them for precision. The uneven ground of the entire world means that certain fences and buildings are just awkwardly floating about 6 ft off the ground.

Completely disagree. If you're having trouble snapping, try laying out floors first. It's true that not everything will snap but once you get comfortable with the pallet you get an intuition for what works and what doesn't.

Also as to uneven ground, under Structures > Wood > Floors there are foundations you can sink into the ground to make a level surface. Some settlements are better suited for construction than others, of course.

Anyone else constantly running out of wood? It's the only resource I never have enough of....

When you get a new settlement, spend five minutes walking the perimeter and scrapping all the trees and stumps and fallen logs, you'll get a ton of wood. I definitely have completely deconstructed a couple settlements to fuel my bigger construction projects, though, that'll happen.

 

[Hip Hop]

this is the one.

 

[Blunoise]

question: Can I join at least two factions around the end of them? Like minute man and railroad, or i have to choose one?

 

[Afro]

Also as to uneven ground, under Structures > Wood > Floors there are foundations you can sink into the ground to make a level surface. Some settlements are better suited for construction than others, of course.

This is cool, thanks. Gotta' remember this.

 

[hydruxo]

question: Can I join at least two factions around the end of them? Like minute man and railroad, or i have to choose one?

You can join both.

 

[RetrospectiveLamb]

Swan's Pond was one helluva fight!

 

[Draper]

Is anyone else playing with the HUD completely hidden? Just trying it out now.

 

[Joyful]

Which perks are the best for maximizing Power Armor usage and usefulness?

Nuclear Physicist lets you use cores longer, Science if you want to upgrade the suit

 

[Starfield]

Well well look what fell from the sky: (GAME SPOILER)

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Question:

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Where is the Alien or Alienblaster? There surely must be one but all I found was some green alien blood on the floor.

 

[Fjordson]

So what perks affect energy weapons? Are they just rolled into the other gun perks? Like would the rifleman perk improve my damage with the Righteous Authority laser rifle?

 

[Shadow Broker]

So I made a post earlier in this thread how I basically get no ammo drops for the gins I use.

I'm exploring and come accross some raiders and we fight. Mind you I'm in third person. I aim, get the dot on the raider, and pull the trigger... ... nothing... I mean I'm shooting but the bullets seem to not be hitting him. I get aiming and shooting.. and then bullets doesn't hit him. I go into first person and hit and kill them like it's nothing.

The only thing I'm mad about is all the ammo that I used.

 

[RDreamer]

Soooo settlement building is total shit, right? I finally attempted to build up Sunshine Tidings co-op and a boathouse and the interface and controls for building things is some of the worst I've ever seen in any game. That's not even hyperbole, only certain objects snap to eachother and if they do, you can't pivot them for precision. The uneven ground of the entire world means that certain fences and buildings are just awkwardly floating about 6 ft off the ground.

Completely agree. I can't believe they felt this part of the game was good enough to ship with. It's really astoundingly bad. What you said along with the fact that there's no menu to assign people to things is just ridiculous.

 

[Brakke]

This is cool, thanks. Gotta' remember this.

Yep, there's a concrete one (looks like the foundations under Ruined Houses in Sanctuary) and a Wooden one. If you stick them so they're a few feet out the ground, the little two step ladder snaps to them very easily. Also bigger ladders (the ones without pre-attached floors) will sink into the ground so you don't have to worry too much about setting the right elevation for a stoop, the ladders should cover you.

 

[Beefy]

Which perks are the best for maximizing Power Armor usage and usefulness?

Armourer and Science.

 

[Phoenix944]

I've killed all member of the "P

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illar of the community"... Dude wanted to get all my stuff :/
Can this make me miss some side quest tho ?

 

[Mothman91]

...where pls.

 

[Askherserenity]

Just finished the Curtain Call quest...

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I think Strong got bugged out on me at the end. Does anyone know where I can find him after finishing up that quest?

 

[Salty Catfish]

So what perks affect energy weapons? Are they just rolled into the other gun perks? Like would the rifleman perk improve my damage with the Righteous Authority laser rifle?

Yep, they're counted as pistols/rifles/automatics just like ballistic weapons and benefit from the respective perks.

 

[Perfec7_]

Well well look what fell from the sky: (GAME SPOILER)

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Question:

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Where is the Alien or Alienblaster? There surely must be one but all I found was some green alien blood on the floor.

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Look on the ground for a trail of blood. Follow it.

 

[daedalius]

I did too, dude was getting on my last damn nerve, everything I did was making him mad.



But anyway, brruuuhhhhhh, I LOOOOVVEEEE the power armor in this game. I don't even walk around outside of my settlement without my power armor.

This is my power armor collection so far, I got two more, but Piper is wearing one as she is traveling to other settlements because of the supply line and the other Preston is wearing power armor with minute men paint job since he's on guard duty in Sanctuary.

All the power armor I have each got some type of unique thing about them.









For example my most worn and most power armor has a jet pack, its SUCH a fucking beast.

I abuse the living shit out of that jet pack, even using a gatling gun with it while from the air.

I also got a power armor that has a stealth field that activates when I crouch and stand still.

I love power armor in this game, never leave home without it. My power armor and my gatling gun, makes very hard seem like easy mode.



But some old gameplay I found.....scared the shit outta me when this happened.

Ok, can't wait to get the jetpack now.

An aside, Melee is ridic OP with something like a Heated Power Hammer. Also the Shishkebab is amazing.

 

[Salty Catfish]

I've killed all member of the "P

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illar of the community"... Dude wanted to get all my stuff :/
Can this make me miss some side quest tho ?

Nah, the entire point of those dudes was they were

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raiders/bandits masquerading as a cult. If you do give him all your shit, he'll be shocked but then tell you to keep repeating the mantra and that's all that happens.

 

[Dre_G_Writer]

If you don't take the cores out when not in use yeah. Your settlers/ companions randomly get in it and never get out.

they can get out, you have to use the "TALK" option when you command them, and youll see, leave power armor as an option.

to get them to get into the power armor, just command them and point at the power armor and youll see the option for them to get in.

To get the jet pack, there's three ways,
1- you find a enemy who happens to have it on their power armor, kill em and take it
2- you craft it, need 4 science and 4 armorer perks
3- a certain faction will give it to you if you do all their quest

 

[foxtrot3d]

New Vegas is a strip mall directly next to a large group of raiders and sandwiched between two Deathclaw nests. The scale is such because these games run on systems with limitations on how big the world can be.

Diamond City is a trade hub, as New Vegas was. You can't tell me the NCR sharecropper farms would be enough to feed everyone either? Again, scale issue.

The heart of New Vegas was surrounded by high steel walls and guarded by Securitrons, the outside of the Strip was supposed to be hostile. And, those NCR Sharecropper farms were pretty massive more than enough for me to believe they could feed the population.

 

[Beefy]

they can get out, you have to use the "TALK" option when you command them, and youll see, leave power armor as an option.

Problem is if it's a settler they run off after a enemy. Then either come back without it or never come back.

 

[ElFly]

So is it just me or I can't complete

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Cait

's companion quest, without mastering

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hacking

?

 

[Starfield]

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Look on the ground for a trail of blood. Follow it.

Already did, but thank you!

 

[Fjordson]

Yep, they're counted as pistols/rifles/automatics just like ballistic weapons and benefit from the respective perks.

Sweet, thanks!

This is one of those times where I appreciate the simplification. Makes those gun perks more valuable imo.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

I took a stab at making treehouse in Sanctuary Hills:

I think it came out pretty well. I used up almost my entire size budget on it, though.

 

[Phoenix944]

Nah, the entire point of those dudes was they were

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raiders/bandits masquerading as a cult. If you do give him all your shit, he'll be shocked but then tell you to keep repeating the mantra and that's all that happens.

Ok, so he deserved that sniper bullet in his skull then.

 

[Apathy]

Are some of the misc items like folders and overdue books of any use or just flavor?

 

[Beefy]

Are some of the misc items like folders and overdue books of any use or just flavor?

Overdue books are of use.

 

[superseohyun]

So is it just me or I can't complete

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Cait

's companion quest, without mastering

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hacking

?

no. in fact, i dont think hack has much use anyway.

 

[Brakke]

Are some of the misc items like folders and overdue books of any use or just flavor?

Overdue books can be turned in at a retirement home at least. I suspect there's a library somewhere but haven't found one yet...

The rewards aren't awesome though.

 

[ezekial45]

Are some of the misc items like folders and overdue books of any use or just flavor?

Overdue Books can be turned in at specific locations like the Boston Public Library for credits, which can used to buy certain junk items.

 

[Empty Space]

So do fusion cores become plentiful enough that power armor becomes a constant use thing or do all of you have the longer fusion core perks?

 

[ElFly]

Oh the whole "what do they eat" criticism again? They put some farms here and there for you guys, let it go.

It's stupid to bring New Vegas on this, as you had Caesar maintaining a whole army of ex-raiders outside New Vegas, just waiting indefinitely to attack. What did all those soldiers eat?

Nevermind the whole issue with having several casinos in the post apocalypsis, some of them even outside the strip.