Fuck your tears.
BLM protesters at Dartmouth College storm library and yell at people
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Fuck your tears.
AnathemicOne
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I dunno 'bout you but a select few in this thread declared this particular protest fine and dandy. But sure generalizations are cool. Shit, that irony.
Big Baybee
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Thread is sad. People will latch on to anything as a reason to dismiss this cause.
I'm not equating the movements. I'm using an example of something people on the left would immediately condemn. I don't think Pro-Lifers are doing a good thing, I think BLM is doing a great thing. But no matter how righteous you believe your cause to be, believing that the righteousness of your cause gives you the right to verbally assault people is something that I find completely repugnant.
If this was BLM, all this does is keep them in the news. At this point, it seems all we're hearing about is their Dufresne Initiative, which is to keep pestering until the public is so tired of hearing of them, they decide to give them what they want. At the same time, it's making politicians have to continue answering questions about them, which further legitimizes them as a movement in everyone's eyes. If someone wants to pretend like this or any other small fractional outburst that happens compared to all they actually do in anyway fully represents them, then they were probably never going to be receptive anyways and can fuck off.
Everyone saying they need to know their time and place, needs to remember that we've been hearing that phrase since we got off the boats, and a long enough time has passed to have this uncomfortable talk, whether you like it or not.
Cool, like that doesn't mean anything different from an oppressed person.
Other posters have already addressed this, but yeah. Disruption has to be a part of protesting. We've been asking nicely for a very long time. It's easy to ignore and go about your life, because it might not directly affect you that the criminal justice system is deeply racist from top to bottom.
Unfortunately I don't have on hand a comic strip courtesy of the Dumpyville Memefiend Gazette that concisely explains how skepticism towards unconfirmed stories is generally a good thing, and that it is wiser to maintain some skepticism towards all unconfirmed stories instead of hypocritically and wholeheartedly embracing those that confirm our biases while outright dismissing those that do not.
I've worked a circulation desk in a library for ten years, never seen anything like this, but that is exactly how I would handle a group such as this. Call campus police and make sure they are fully aware of the severeness of the disturbance, and they will come quickly.
#Alllivesmatter!!
Trojita
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I've come to a realization, I feel bad for the mods. They have to clean up trash like in this thread.
There are zero posters in this thread defending the violence and verbal abuse. You are very wrong.
Yeah, I was looking at my branch's CoC and I'm pretty sure that would be our response too. That's why I'm a little bewildered at the lack of reports of a police presence (that I've seen).
FadedRevolution
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Hey history always repeats itself.
Some link posted said that cops were indeed present during the demonstration, they also witnessed no violence, sources are iffy at the moment tho.
Maybe it's in an unsupervised section of the library and it went unreported to library staff. Stranger things have happened and I see no students making a move to go tell someone what is happening in the clip.
Edit....nevermind....I see this in the link above.
http://thedartmouth.com/wp-content/....15.news_.blackout3_Seamore.Zhu_-1038x576.jpg
So that rules that out.
Same quote used by the protestors. I excluded the type of color the tears would be, because that'd make me a racist.
Captin Quacker
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This is is the oddest part of the story for me
Edit: just saw JDSN post now I'm super confused
I too believe BLM is a legitimate movement, and I also think some of their groups show a complete lack of leadership.
I haven't worked directly with them, but I have done work for similar causes. I'm an immigrant, and mostly have done work in support of immigrants students.
Not that I have to legitimize myself before you.
...and as an actual student, I have student things to do right now, maybe later I'll come back.
Appears they were there. But what's three or four campus security guards going to do? They don't want to get caught up in it and become part of the story and get fired.
Don't worry, saying it to a black man in response to how white's treat us did that.
Mad Season
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how about "ALL LIVES MATTER" ?
Coffee Dog
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look, uh, if you're joking you should probably say so
Captin Quacker
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They can't call for backup?
I think we could talk about strategy all day and I am not an expert on it (compared to true experts out there) but there is fine balance to play in choosing where and when to wage protests so to say. It's not about resting on your laurels, but it's not about hurting your chances either. If the play is to dismiss criticism with the "comfortable", "must be made uncomfortable" talking point, then how about crashing the Super Bowl? or say an Airport in normal operation? How about a hospital? a factory? a store? What's the limit? who picks and choses what's appropriate and what's not? Free-for-all?
If the end goal is being a literal bug to get notoriety forcing others to address BLM, there are many venues that will get much greater attention. The interesting thing about getting addressed is that it may not get the desired result you want. It's sorely dependent on the strategy that you employ to gain support to your cause.
Hyperbole much?
I find that disrespectful.
There's plenty of great things black people have done.
We base our protest on the work black people have done before us.
If only blacks would just say enough is enough! Besides there being a ton of organisations that do just this, its also done on a local level.
Here's a church down the street from me.
But again, this was never about why we shoot and rob, because whites don't want to think about the fact that maybe they are implicit to the actual problem, social economic equality. And it hurts that they have to think about something being taken from them(gimme my mule).
Who's to say they don't want to go to the superbowl? But then you're talking about them endangering themselves during a post 9/11 world. And even then, they would be villified for making sports political. They can't win, and so they don't try. College kids are supposed to be our prime allies. Fuck your study session, fuck your mid terms, some of these folks don't have that kind of time, and if you see a group of people protesting in your area for a fucking worthy cause, then fuck you if you get mad. That one unsubstantiated report about the woman saying she went to a group and then called out for it says it all.
Chie Satonaka
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This thread is the gift that keeps giving.
More police would probably have made things worse. Seems it ended as well as it could have with only minor disruptions, some hateful language, and a crying student.
True, and most smaller campus police forces don't have the man power to handle an organized group of a larger size like this. It's a shame their presence couldn't prevent the verbal abuses that happened though.
LiquidSword
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Except zero people in this thread have said that was okay so what point are you trying to make?
I don't know why it's so hard to believe that an offshoot of misguided youths from this movement can have terrible direction and beliefs. The movement is clearly needed and for the most part completely legitimate as all of their stated issues need desperate change/progress, but it doesn't mean that there aren't ignorant people out there that are going to use the name of the movement to passionately express their own racist sentiments to the point where they are damaging their own cause. There are bad apples among any movement, really.
MiniBossBattle
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I am surprised football students don't join the BLM movement. It sounded like when Mizzou team protested and threatened to not play, there was traction.
Yelling in a library doesn't sound like a good venue when you can actually make more national movement with sports programs.
Yelling in a library doesn't sound like a good venue when you can actually make more national movement with sports programs.
Isn't this quote in the yet-to-be verified account of this incident or are we talking a separate incident?
uncelestial
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I just made this because I think I would've won based on this the posts in this thread.
They may have been at the earlier, all day protest. The protest in the library was a small offshoot at the end of the day.
Not surprisingly, conservative rags jump at the opportunity to paint BLM in a bad light without mentioning these facts.
BennyBlanco
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People are still breaking out these bingo cards? ugh. Will update the OP.
Was it really a protest, though? It sounds like they were getting pissed and acting rather racist at students who have nothing to do with decision-making... I see the obvious need to protest but this doesn't seem to come from that same core... it seems like..... well, a racist tirade. Unless you're among those who think it's impossible for people of color to be racist due to lack of privilege.
When does interrupting the most basic routines of inconsequential members of society no longer considered a protest? As soon as they hurt somebody?
I just made this because I think I would've won based on this the posts in this thread.
Unbefuckinlievable
MiniBossBattle
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I was referring to actual college juggernauts outside of protests; NCAA student athletes. If you are to get traction on a movement, have a face to it, humanize and package it to a wider audience and have a clear pitch that is easy to remember and even easier to repeat. You want to get a message; get the NCAA to make a statement. Basically get the big money involved, not kids struggling in Organic Chemistry. Stop a game on National TV.
Thanks for the link. The author's definitely a student at Dartmouth, at the very least.
FadedRevolution
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It's still a protest, but I don't know if you could call it a non-violent protest if some of the accounts are true. A distasteful display from those protesters who participated in the violence and verbal harassment.
If it were a normal BLM protest in a library (as the video seems to show) I'd have no problem with it.
Chie Satonaka
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*sigh*
Because #AllLivesMatter is not used genuinely to discuss issues facing black Americans. It's a counter to #Blacklivesmatter and is used almost exclusively to shut down discussion about topics that racists and the American status quo don't want to discuss.
If all lives mattered, the affirmation of black lives wouldn't cause people to be so upset.
#AllLivesMatter is also conveniently silent on matters of police brutality when it comes to non-minorities as well, when #BLM activists have brought those very same issues to the forefront.
tl;dr it's used to shut down #BLM, not because people really care about the sanctity of all lives.
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