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Thought PxZ2 would do better.Ps4 small drop,Splatoon bundle helped Wii U sales.But Splatoon itself is a Beast,Mario Maker seems to have some legs to.
I can't honestly see any of those games having a significant impact on hardware sales, much less a sustained one.Starfox, Zelda, Twilight Princess, ShinM&FireE
Dat superior tracker!
we can always count on darius for pointless comparisons!
13./11. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2015.07.30} (¥4.320) - 5.645 / 1.120.354 (-31%)
16./16. [3DS] Picross 3D 2 <PZL> (Nintendo) {2015.10.01} (¥3.240) - 3.482 / 72.643 (-28%)
Starfox, Zelda U, Twilight Princess, ShinM&FireE
What a time for Splatoon. Spla2oon on Nintendo Home is going to be something special.
sharp fe is not a 2016 game.Starfox, Zelda U, Twilight Princess, ShinM&FireE
All depend on The NX Sales bro.
If is a console with Wii Sales ( 12 millions ) it will easy outsell Mario Kart Wii in Japan!
Well, the PxZ team are ex-Super Robot Wars devs, so they did learn from the master.It's not a BAD game please, repetitive and maybe boring but it does the job for one looking for a good looking (hell, how many 2d games look like that today ?) fun to play cross over.
sharp fe is not a 2016 game.
For the ps4 to overtake wiiu till the end of next year it has to sell 11614 units more than the wiiu every week according to MC and 13143 units according to famitsu.
Dont think it will happen. Unless nintendo releases the nx and wiiu sales take a huge hit.
I could see many weeks where the wii u sells 5-7k and the ps4 sells 15-20k in the slower months of the year.
5-7k probably won't come until late into the year next year. Splatoon has held against <10k until the bundle cut sales for two weeks. Of course, there are a lot of other factors that will influence this and Splatoon's legs may ultimately fade sooner than later due to NX announcements and otherwise.
5-7k probably won't come until late into the year next year. Splatoon has held against <10k until the bundle cut sales for two weeks. Of course, there are a lot of other factors that will influence this and Splatoon's legs may ultimately fade sooner than later due to NX announcements and otherwise.
Even in the early months of the year that have some releases, the wii u would be lucky to hold around 9-12k weekly. Meanwhile the ps4 should have higher than 20k because of all of its releases early in the year. I am fairly confident that 2016 should be the year that ps4 outsells the wii u.
I still feel like there's only so much Splatoon can do by its lonesome. At least the Wii U has a stronger first quarter than usual in Japan, with Pokken Tournament, Twilight Princess HD & Star Fox Zero, although I think it's very possible that all but Pokken sell less than 100K LTD.
Mid next year around April.When do you all think the Splatoon impact will wear off? I don't mean fall off a bit and surge again as it is doing now. I'm talking gone from the charts for good and it is no longer buffing sales at all.
It has been holding the Wii U above high waters for a long time now.
When do you all think the Splatoon impact will wear off? I don't mean fall off a bit and surge again as it is doing now. I'm talking gone from the charts for good and it is no longer buffing sales at all.
It has been holding the Wii U above high waters for a long time now.
Is the Wii U still getting games that can boost hardware significantly next year?
I'm not in Tokyo for two days (relaxing time), if you want to post the new release pics...
AC:HHD is just chugging along, and Picross is staying in the charts a lot longer than I expected. I wonder if Picross owes part of its lingering presence to word of mouth (as it has been good).
I still watch CM's on Yamanote about Picross, that's unusual for a small IP + low budget title and already released; N kept pushing the title so this might be one of the reason Picross is still charting
You can probably thank Nintendo's conservatism for that. There's only so much strong titles can do when a console that was never widely appealing at its initial price point ends up maintaining or even increasing in price. I think it will bite them in the ass for the NX.
It never really did. The only two real significant boosts were launch and Santa Claus '13. Splatoon did (is doing?) a good job long term but it was more like preventing a fall rather than boosting the sales.
You can probably thank Nintendo's conservatism for that. There's only so much strong titles can do when a console that was never widely appealing at its initial price point ends up maintaining or even increasing in price. I think it will bite them in the ass for the NX.
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I'm not in Tokyo for two days (relaxing time), if you want to post the new release pics...
That Yamazaki bottle!
http://www.4gamer.net/games/325/G032501/20151119045/
Some screenshots of P&D X. From what I've seen of Z, it looks like they're upping the graphical quality of the world? P&D Z from what I played, reminded me of a GBA game. This one looks like it's in 3D.
I wouldn't call it conservatism. Its just a botched product and re-starting manufacturing to any meaningful degree would be expensive and not worth the time. A lower price point would just gut them without software volumes and licensing fees to collect.
That said, I doubt it will affect the NX as its actually going to be picking up far more of an audience and demographic from the 3DS side of things than the WiiU (probably by an order of magnitude). The 3DS has been treated very well after the initial flub of its bad release price/offerings.
It makes more sense to just handle the Wii U and 3DS like they in recent times and just focus on the NX.
I think that from a worldwide perspective their strategy is awful and will hurt the NX badly in Western markets, but yes I guess it should work in Japan because the 3DS gets such strong third-party support, has sold so well, and has been dominating the charts for so long, that as long as Nintendo stays in the minds of consumers in a strong and positive way then they should be fine. It'll depend on how they handle the portable and home SKUs and whether they care if the home SKU sells like the PSTV or maybe the regular N3DS, as long as the portable one sells well.
I don't see how putting more resources into a console that the market has rejected would put them in a better situation going forward. If anything it would be taking away from the NX.
sharp fe is not a 2016 game.
For the ps4 to overtake wiiu till the end of next year it has to sell 11614 units more than the wiiu every week according to MC and 13143 units according to famitsu.
Dont think it will happen. Unless nintendo releases the nx and wiiu sales take a huge hit.
There wasn't really anything else they could do for the Wii U and a lot of the issues it had were on a conceptual level. They wouldn't have been able to duplicate what the PS3 did and even then I'm sure no company wants to duplicate that. Nintendo needs move on and put their resources into the future.The point is the market would not have rejected it to such an extent had they been more aggressive. Nintendo does not have a positive image right now. I remember two years ago (that was before crappy cash-ins like amiibo Festival or Mario Tennis Ultra Smash were considered holiday tentpole releases) I was talking to one of my best friends, with whom I used to play SNES, N64, Dreamcast, GBA and 3DS, and I told him that I wanted to get a Wii U. He laughed then realized I was serious.
These days when people think of the home console market they think of PlayStation and Xbox. Nintendo has spent the majority of this generation and the latter third of the previous one being overly passive and putting profits first. They've lost a tremendous amount of not only positive mind share, but even just mind share, period. This is a terrible environment to launch a new system in. It pains me to say this, but they deserve a lot of the blame. Not as much as Sony with the Vita of course, but they don't intend on releasing a successor to that.
Of course Nintendo doesn't have infinite resources, but they could have done much more. Although trying to turn a failure into a profitable venture probably made shareholders happy enough, the PlayStation brand would not be what it is today had Sony focused on short-term profits during the PS3 days. They lost a massive amount of money on it and in that way it is a failure, but in the eyes of the public it is a highly successful console and the public has a positive image of the brand, thus enabling Sony to come out with a better thought-out successor riding on strong momentum. Nintendo is taking the opposite approach and I think they will end up with opposite results.
+-------+-----------+----------+------------+---------+
| Model | This Week | Week (%) | FY 2014 | FY (%) |
+-------+-----------+----------+------------+---------+
| 3DS | 148.378 | 37.80% | 9.068.809 | 49.80% |
| PS4 | 115.648 | 29.50% | 2.471.974 | 13.60% |
| Vita | 49.179 | 12.50% | 2.710.538 | 14.90% |
| Wii U | 40.699 | 10.40% | 2.032.188 | 11.20% |
| PS3 | 33.005 | 8.40% | 1.749.125 | 9.60% |
| XB1 | 3.546 | 0.90% | 49.886 | 0.30% |
| PSP | 2.136 | 0.50% | 111.602 | 0.60% |
+-------+-----------+----------+------------+---------+
| Total | 392.591 | 100.00% | 18.194.122 | 100.00% |
+-------+-----------+----------+------------+---------+
+-------+-----------+----------+-----------+---------+
| Model | This Week | Week (%) | FY 2014 | FY (%) |
+-------+-----------+----------+-----------+---------+
| 3DS | 32.854 | 35.60% | 915.800 | 36.40% |
| PS4 | 31.161 | 33.70% | 659.029 | 26.20% |
| Wii U | 14.632 | 15.80% | 403.516 | 16.00% |
| Vita | 12.085 | 13.10% | 445.297 | 17.70% |
| PS3 | 1.430 | 1.50% | 84.688 | 3.40% |
| XB1 | 246 | 0.30% | 8.036 | 0.30% |
+-------+-----------+----------+-----------+---------+
| Total | 92.408 | 100.00% | 2.516.366 | 100.00% |
+-------+-----------+----------+-----------+---------+
If the wiiu remain stable as it is now, there's no way ps4 will overtake it. Ever since splatoon, wiiu sales are not that far off from ps4 (the big difference is that the ps4 got some big spikes, but even the wiiu outsold it lots of weeks). And anyone can see that on dengeki that lump the sales of this fiscal year.Looking at YTD may be a better way to judge things. For instance by the end of this year PS4 would of gained 400-500k in relation to the WiiU. 2016 is looking to be a great year for the PS4 so we obviously expect a notable increase YOY. WiiU on the other hand would be doing well by remaining stable. The gap between WiiU and PS4 is 600k hence I think PS4 overtaking the WiiU next year is a certainty.
3rd week comparison
combined 317.058
04./01. [PSV] God Eater 2: Rage Burst <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.02.19} (¥6.145) - 37.650 / 271.829 (-84%)
12./03. [PS4] God Eater 2: Rage Burst <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.02.19} (¥7.171) - 7.405 / 45.229 (-80%)
If the wiiu remain stable as it is now, there's no way ps4 will overtake it. Ever since splatoon, wiiu sales are not that far off from ps4 (the big difference is that the ps4 got some big spikes, but even the wiiu outsold it lots of weeks). And anyone can see that on dengeki that lump the sales of this fiscal year.
Unless the ps4 sales get much better though and i don't believe it will happen. I think it will be just as this year. Some spikes at big releases and that's it.
sharp fe is not a 2016 game.
For the ps4 to overtake wiiu till the end of next year it has to sell 11614 units more than the wiiu every week according to MC and 13143 units according to famitsu.
Dont think it will happen. Unless nintendo releases the nx and wiiu sales take a huge hit.
It'd be interesting to see how GE3 will perform given how PSV is winding down and PS4 doesn't seem able to catch the hunting action fanbase.
A decline is very likely, seeing how a remake with more content is selling notably less than a simple enhanced re-release.
Once again I'm telling you to look at YTD not weeks:
PS4 - 1,035k
WiiU - 536k
500k difference right now.
If WiiU was stable, PS4 would only need to sell 100-200k extra next year.
Are you sure that 2015 will end with 500.000 in favour of PS4? I'm not
If WiiU stays constant and PS4 has a 100k YOY increase then it would result in a 600k favour or PS4. Do you not think PS4 will be 100k YOY?