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Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut
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Pai Pai Master
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and this reference what? did something happen?
This man knows whats up
SomedayTheFire
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the tears if they mess him up though.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Yes. I hope they can create tension though. The problem with many MCU movies has been that characters have too much plot armor and destroy swarms of enemies effortlessly.
Winter soldier worked because we really didn't know what was going to happen. I don't think anyone expected Cap to die, but the stakes for him were high and his fate was up in the air.
This is why smaller scopes work well. with "Saving the world against big threat", it is hard for states to be created that we are not already desensitized to.
Manmademan
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he's bragging that he's seen the entire movie, because he's James Gunn.
welcome back
DonasaurusRex
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Who said its having a lot of effect? diverting tony's arms and chest isnt doing much to Iron Man, not like he's going all out like the final fight scene of IM2, he's clearly trying to apprehend otherwise he'd level the building with those two inside. They do have a vibranium weapon as well.
Either way smashing Iron Man with everything they've got and getting him to move...inches isn't having much of an effect at all.
Pai Pai Master
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You can still have the large scale objective though. We had that in WS, Hydra was moments away from murdering millions of innocent people and that was quite scary - but the personal battle of Steve and Bucky was the main event.
I don't want superhero movies to shy away from the superheroics - they save the world that's what they do. But I think people will be satisfied all around if they continue that double whammy and keep the personal stakes as a big ass deal. That's what Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier and Ant-Man did so well, and what I hope continues in more than just the Russos upcoming movies.
I don't want superhero movies to shy away from the superheroics - they save the world that's what they do. But I think people will be satisfied all around if they continue that double whammy and keep the personal stakes as a big ass deal. That's what Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier and Ant-Man did so well, and what I hope continues in more than just the Russos upcoming movies.
dragonyeuw
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Gawd damn.
Mix Master
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I noticed that most people who run to rooftops and shout superhero fatigue, feel the need to go in to every Superhero thread to expend energy and repeat it.
gutter_trash
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also the other element that removes tension from both Avengers movies is that the enemy were a horde of expandable faceless goons (Shit-ary in the 1st, and the robots in the 2nd)
there is no level of threat when the horde of CG minions are just disposable fodder to be whaled at.
i did not like the Shit-ary and didn't care much for the robots in the 2nd. They were lame fodder.
Plus, Ironman 3 did the same stupid shit when expandable faceless Extremis badies fighting an army of armored expandable Ironman armors. Plus the whole attach, detach, attach, detach armor pieces in IM3 was so meh.
Manmademan
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Also, #teamcap all the way.
I love RDJ, but Tony needs his smug face socked. I do like that they are continuing the effects of his PTSD from Avengers one. I feel that the guilt and trauma from that and AoU is a lot of the reasons why he's taking the stance he's taking in the film.
I love RDJ, but Tony needs his smug face socked. I do like that they are continuing the effects of his PTSD from Avengers one. I feel that the guilt and trauma from that and AoU is a lot of the reasons why he's taking the stance he's taking in the film.
I might shed some of those tears, mayne. Black Panther been my favourite superhero for a hot minute now. If they mess him up, I riot.
PREACH.
I hope he wears a cape in his own movie though. Ain't nobody stylin' and profiling like T'Challa.
Shuggananas
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Yeah blue hulk and yellow hulk are much much better
captjohnboyd
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This. This is what I was trying to say earlier. No one really needs to die but the smaller scope and lack of one million aliens being easily dispatched makes the action and consequences feel so much more important.
gutter_trash
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how does Banner fit into all this with General Ross back in the picture?
Yes, it's revealed in Winter Soldier but pretty off-handedly -- no one specifically calls it out, you just see a headline of it juxtaposed with exposition about what Bucky has done.
Pai Pai Master
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The fodder are there so our heroes can do sweet combo moves we can cheer for. I don't think they really add much else or really take away from the movie.
The Chitauri were jobbers that only existed to show how powerful the Avengers are when they finally work together. I wouldn't really have that any other way. Avengers 1 didn't really need some ultra powerful opponent because it was good enough just seeing them fighting together for the first time.
The Ultron bots were just to show how hard it could be to take him out because they had to destroy every single one to stop him. They weren't particularly interesting and Ultron Prime should have been much more powerful in that last fight - that was the real failing in AoU's climactic battle IMO and not the robot horde.
Hopefully this is something that is simply corrected in Infinity War simply by the nature of the story. You can bet your ass that Thanos is gonna have a Chitauri army at his back but those will be dealt with by the lower level heroes and just background dressing while the main dudes lose to Thanos.
Surprised at that last one. I could defend the second one but I see your point. The first one? Shiiiiit, that movie was just super flawed.
SomedayTheFire
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I already don't like the costume. Love the mask, but the chest/belly looks too loose and flowing.
Manmademan
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I haven't kept up with what they're doing with Hulk post secret wars, did they retcon doc green out somehow? He was still present when the final incursion happened- and Maestro seems to be rolling around Marvel earth 84 years from now in 2099.
he doesn't. banner is in exile and no one on the planet knows where he is.
gutter_trash
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I rather have Super Heroes fight Super Villains.
i am not a fan of expendable jobber fodder like the Shit-ary
TangoAlphaLima
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Hot damn.
Pai Pai Master
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There's no Bruce banner Hulk at all post-SW as far as we know. The Maestro is doing his thing and the main universe has Amadeus Cho as the new Hulk.
I can agree there - Infinity War needs The Black Order so we can have a sweet team vs team fight
They also end up watching every movie despite claiming to be fatigued.
captjohnboyd
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I noticed that too. Does it look like its "wrinkling" to anyone else? I expected it to be hard ala captain's suit but it doesn't look like that around his stomach
Jawmuncher
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I can understand that, I'm not saying it won't be a good movie unless someone dies. I liked Winter Soldier my remark was just used as something more broad with the same scenario. I want to see someone die in civil war just to shake things up to my personal tastes. Not gonna knock the movie if they don't do that though. A good movie is a good movie after all.
BronsonLee
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Thing about T'Challa that you ought to know is that he is so damn intelligent that he could build himself a suit like Iron-Man but chooses not to.
He does have some badass armour sets though.
He should be approached by Hydra and he give them a fuck you from the heart of his Mustache
Pop-O-Matic
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I want them to go full dumbass and have Tony end up as a Hydra sleeper agent.
Xamtheking
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I want a temporarily nonSuperSoldier Cap vs a suitless Iron Man
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