Anton Sugar
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Yup. Actual interesting conflict! I can't wait!
Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut
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Yup. Actual interesting conflict! I can't wait!
Xamtheking
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What if BP just has his own agenda on going after Bucky, and isn't working with Iron Man and friends
What if BP just has his own agenda on going after Bucky, and isn't working with Iron Man and friends
fallengorn
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That's a good guess. Either that or some shit happened in Wakanda that people are pointing at Bucky for.
Uhh that's where Vibranium is located, I'm pretty sure it was.
A good trailer but I didn't really get a 'WOW' feeling from it that a lot of others did. Tony's line at the end worked really well but beyond that it felt a little samey to me.
It's the first trailer so I'm sure that they all saving the more bombastic set pieces etc for later trailers but it still felt a little flat to me. And that Black Panther 'reveal' just didn't work for me at all, he looked like a Power Ranger too which was slightly baffling.
I like Marvel films, and the first AOU trailer totally blew me away, but I didn't feel remotely charmed by this at all.
I'm sure the second trailer will bring it.
It's the first trailer so I'm sure that they all saving the more bombastic set pieces etc for later trailers but it still felt a little flat to me. And that Black Panther 'reveal' just didn't work for me at all, he looked like a Power Ranger too which was slightly baffling.
I like Marvel films, and the first AOU trailer totally blew me away, but I didn't feel remotely charmed by this at all.
I'm sure the second trailer will bring it.
fallengorn
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Klaw smuggled the Vibranium to South Africa.
-Ironman and Hulk fight.
-An active avenger (Wanda) dealing with a branded, possibly regicidial criminal hated by Wakanda.
-Wants his vibranium back.
On the top of my head.
No, that is where Klaw had his stolen vibranium.
Why would Klaw sit on the coast of the country that brands the fuck out of thieves, with a boat load of their national treasure.
Plus Wakanda is a land locked country.
Yes. Joss Whedon, inventor of CG armies.
Pai Pai Master
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The Vibranium was there because Klaw stole it from Wakanda. That was a random African city likely because they didn't want to call it South Africa right before the heroes of the movie fucking leveled it.
Wakanda looks nothing like any modern civilization seen on earth. When you see Wakanda you will know it.
He looks like a Power Ranger.
They're just regular boots.
Shuggananas
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Just checked and it's Johannesburg as I thought.
Netherscourge
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Looks good, but it'll be hard to follow-up Winter Soldier.
I hope there is a good link to Agents of SHIELD too, because I'm curious how this will affect the inHumans.
Daisy and Lincoln certainly are going to be anti-registration.
I hope there is a good link to Agents of SHIELD too, because I'm curious how this will affect the inHumans.
Daisy and Lincoln certainly are going to be anti-registration.
Secret Character
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There are villains in this movie, actually. None were in the trailer, but we know of at least two:
Crossbones, who was in Winter Soldier
Baron Zemo
The trailer is setting the mood for the film without showing us the real threat. Heck, we still don't know who the big bad is for BvS.
Trailer looks fucking AWESOME, but I gotta say I'm not digging the story vibes. I really hope this brings in a national event that causes people to question super heroes and their ethics like the books, not just people going after Bucky and Cap being like "MY BUDDY NO."
That scene at the table seemed pretty weak, with the guy just calling Cap a vigilante. I hope that's not all ot takes.
That scene at the table seemed pretty weak, with the guy just calling Cap a vigilante. I hope that's not all ot takes.
demosthenes
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Touche.
There have already been several events that would cause people to question heroes.
fallengorn
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Like an entire European city dropping out of the sky?
Pai Pai Master
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We've already had those events, its called the Sokovia Accords and not the Superhero Registration Act for a reason. Cap is ignoring government law in order to save a friend, that is a big enough reason for the conflict. The whole point is that someone as powerful as Cap should not just be able to do whatever he wants, and here he is giving the middle finger while protecting his pal.
Yeah I mean I guess that does work. But that was all Stark's fault in the movies. He made Ultron. But yeah, I'm sure they could make it work to where that makes people question all super heroes.
They're just really making Cap out to be the bad guy in this. Where in the books, out of the two if one had to be called a villain, Tony was the one who went too far. I don't know. All I know is I want to see more.
look how excited Slayven is. Look at him.
"Hey Captain you were right about the whole Hydra thing and all but looks like we've got to use our resources once again to just hunt you down."
I'm getting a transformers stupidity vibe from this of 'humans constantly betraying autobots'
"Hey Captain you were right about the whole Hydra thing and all but looks like we've got to use our resources once again to just hunt you down."
I'm getting a transformers stupidity vibe from this of 'humans constantly betraying autobots'
Tony Stark's one superpower is never to feel the weight of his fuckups.
That's why Stark is their poster boy. He's an example of superhero overreach.
Pai Pai Master
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I think it's more balanced than the comics in a very good way. I think Tony recognizes that he is largely to blame for Ultron's actions which is why he is out there front and center, and actually enforcing the Accords to stop Cap and bring him in.
Steve only comes off as the badguy if you completely ignore his compassion. Both characters are coming at this from the right angle, I can't say either of them are particularly wrong but that's why we get to enjoy them butting heads repeatedly, until T'Challa uncovers what's really going on and gets them to figure their shit out and join up to stop Zemo.
boiled goose
good with gravy
It was not a "bad" movie. It was just flawed. I enjoyed watching it in theaters and need to rewatch it at some point.
I don't see how people can say this when its very likely the whole reason he wants to do the registration in the MCU is because he realized he fucked up big time with Ultron.
He was probably tracking the stolen Vibranium back to Klaw.
Ultron then takes the Vibranium to make Vision.
BP could technically claim Vision is stolen property.
Pai Pai Master
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He's in every scene of the trailer he's just too small to see
I know this isn't the place for politics but this is great. From Imgur
Drat how do you embed Webm?
http://i.imgur.com/leDhQWi.webm
Drat how do you embed Webm?
http://i.imgur.com/leDhQWi.webm
sleverfunk
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Can't see him cause he's too small
Lol love it.
Shuggananas
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It was thousands of kilometers away
moai
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Haha. Didnt thought about that
Manmademan
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captain america is not peak human. The comics make it clear that he is well past what humans are capable of and training will not get you there.
616 Cap has been shot in the head and healed up in an hour because "he's captain america."
616 Cap has sustained 60mph foot speeds over a period of several miles.
616 Cap is able to dodge bullets after they're fired because he "sees faster" than humans are capable of.
616 Cap has carried around steel girders over his shoulder like baseball bats.
616 Cap has thrown his shield hard enough to overtake rockets in flight.
616 Cap doesn't age and is functionally immortal, and his body generates no fatigue toxins.
616 Cap has lept out of airplanes a thousand feet up sans parachute, plummeted to earth, broke the concrete with his feet and taken off running.
edit: and as for "can't go through steel"
a bleeding and injured cap busts down a steel door. sans shield.
"peak human" is a concept invented by the marvel handbooks and isn't accurate when discussing captain america.
I really only see this on gaf, tbh. This may just be a case of confirmation bias on both our ends though. From what I've seen, The Avengers continues to get just as much praise elsewhere online and in real life as it did when it came out.
It's OK to want certain things from your movies and be displeased when those criteria aren't met but sometimes it seems less about whether or not a movie is good and more a question of how well they fit a strict set of criteria. Structurally, the primary obstacle in the first Avengers movie wasn't the invasion or even Loki, it was bringing the team together. The climax is a 40 minute long hoo-rah. And guess what? It works! Even if it only really reaches its peak entertainment potential on the first watch, it still works. That's why it was as popular as it was when it released.
longdi
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No Cap, on your left
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?
Yea, that's a little disappointing. Maybe it's shown that way only in the trailer? We'll see.
*sharp intake of breath*
Pai Pai Master
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Oh boy you're just Jon snowing it up right now
Nah, BP definitely not as well known as his friends outside of comic books. But that's a good thing cuz we will get to see him take the mainstream by force. He's gonna be hugely popular.
He's definitely not just some guy in Africa. He is the king of Wakanda, the most technically advanced nation on earth. He can fight like Cap and think like Iron Man. And his powers don't come from a serum, they are mystical in nature.
The SSS is the western version of the heartshaped fruit an herb Wakanda has had for centuries.
Why can't a guy in Africa develop?
Wakanda is the most advanced nation on marvel earth.
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