Bernie Sanders Wins Readers Poll for TIME Person of the Year
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N7Commander95
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Feel the Bern
NoblesseOblige
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Not my personal choice but as they say A Bernie is fine too.
NoblesseOblige
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I wonder if places like 4chan spamming these polls have anything to do with that. Or if it's just Time not really caring about the results to begin with.
Time really doesn't care. They just put up a little online poll, it has no baring or relevance to anything with their person of the year list much like any online poll on news websites.
I imagine 4chan would be more enamoured with the Donald.
old manatee
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Stop bullying Bernie!
1st Course
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Not surprised, Bernie supporters are very active online.
Sho_Nuff82
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So...what exactly has Bernie done this year aside from run for president? Any landmark legislation?
This was a user poll. All it really says it he has vocal fans on the internet, he didn't have to actually do anything.
Discotheque
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This is such a hoe-ski post
This is a online poll not the actual Time Person of the Year. A random Asian pop artist won this or came close to a few years back due to mass online voting.
Sho_Nuff82
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TheChewyWaffles
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What? I mean people may like the guy and all, but "Person of the Year"?? Seems like ballot stuffing.
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Such shitty posting. People between the ages of 20-30 are about 18% of the American electorate. If you define the upper-middle class as those in the top third by income, by definition people between the ages of 20-30 in the upper-middle class are 6% of the American electorate. The majority of those will be white because whites tend to be socioeconomically better off, but not all, so even if we say 85% of the upper middle class are white which is probably an exaggeration, then upper middle class white kids represent 5% of the electorate.
Sanders is pulling in 35%. That's not winning, but it's a hella bigger picture than upper middle class white kids and your statement is pretty condescending to all of the minority voters, older voters, and poorer voters who intend to vote for him. Must be nice in your ivory tower.
Sir_Crocodile
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Bernie can have my sloppy seconds.
dunno if this or Giuliani is the worst
Coriolanus
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35% of the dem vote, Crab. halve that for genpop
I figure their reason is just to bring attention to him, because they want him to win the presidency. Its just a silly online poll, its not like anything would come from it no matter who won.
DragonSworne
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It should have been Trump.
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Actually, Sanders does better in the genpop because he's more popular with independents and Republicans than Hillary is; another part of the reason as to why he's more electable and a better choice in terms of ensuring Democratic nominees for the Supreme Court.
More people than those that support Trump then, not bad
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=400357
This site says he sponsored over 20 bills this year. Dunno about landmark but there is one about legalizing weed. Seems pretty prolific while still campaigning. All it took was a quick search of the terms "Bernie sponsored legislation".
Sir_Crocodile
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Is that quite right though? Clinton is far better known then Sanders, peoples opinions on her are probably as set as they will be after the last twenty years.
Meanwhile Sanders will get an increased level of scrutiny from the repubs & media if he wins the nomination which could change opinions.
Wafflecakes
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The delusion.
The genpop don't have a fucking clue who Bernie is, whereas Hillary is a well known figure.
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Time 2006 Person of the Year is great because you can put that on your resume.
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It's true that Sanders has a much better reception than Clinton among Republicans and independents who know both figures. It's also true that about a quarter of the American electorate don't know who he is, but that doesn't matter particularly. Quinnipac has him at 44-31-24 favourable/unfavourable/don't know amongst the general American population. In contrast, Clinton is at 44-51-3. Unless every single person who currently doesn't know who Sanders is but does know who Clinton is both comes to know him and finds him unfavourable, he can't possibly become less favourable than Clinton assuming people who currently know and find him favourable continue to do so.
76% of the genpop know. That ivory tower getting taller and taller! The rest will find out come a presidential campaign. Besides, being well known doesn't help jack when your favourables/unfavourables are lower than Carson's.
Wafflecakes
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You must have never once bothered to follow politics before. The ignorance is mind numbing.
Early polls are worthless and almost ALWAYS the well known or "establishment" candidates start off with far lower polling numbers than the "outsiders".
By most legitimate estimates, most voters don't even start paying real attention to the election until a month before.
SuperBanana
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He's truly the best candidate that everyone will be too lazy to vote for.
Coriolanus
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I understand that, and agree with your overall analysis of the candidate's chances. Just noting that the 35% number can't be presented like that.
This is all ignoring that he most likely wont take the nom, obv
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not even paying attention to what im saying. just listen
1. early polls are worthless at telling you who people will vote for, yes. they're not useless at telling you favourables/unfavourables. 2. I ain't sayin' sanders is going to win the dem nom, because he isn't - clinton got the party machinery all locked up. I'm saying that sanders would do better in a GE if he made that far and there's a fair amount of evidence to suggest that. 3. the polls aren't that early any more, at least for the primaries. we're in december, the pearson correlation is 0.6 at this point
also 4. there are a lot of people on GAF who like pretending to be VerySeriousPeople (VSPs), and they've been into politics geeks for a while (all the way from 2014 at the very least!!!), and they're actually really upset that other people are now interested in politics because that was TheirThing, and they're also worried about what their peers will think of them if they deviate from the groupthink, so all of the VSPs rush around the Bernie threads with shitty posts like "only whitekids" "somethingsomething bernie bros" "god you've never ever followed politics before, ive been following politics since 2014 and that makes me an expert". it's like the politics geek equivalent of gamer geeks reacting to girls playing video games and frankly it's fucking tiresome, so im here to drop some casual knowledge on the VSPs so that they stop shitposting.
Veritigo_X
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Can't wait to see this being used in unskewing polls.
Are you serious, bro?
PhoenixDark
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It's just another online poll that means nothing. Ron Paul also won these types of polls.....
CyclopsRock
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I had a feel it would be a poll of online readers.
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Angela Merkel should get it
FloydtheFathead
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I think you are right.
Mick Foley won once. They named Ken Starr as a result I believe.
Like, I can understand people digging him because he's kind of lit a fire under the Millennial generation, being one of the few candidates to talk about the problems they're going to face in America for probably the rest of their lifetime; no good health care, poor education, and the inflammation of poverty.
But person of the year for being so matter-of-fact? Don't we want feel good people as winners? I don't see how a straight shooter like Bernie is even close to "feel good people" for what he talks about and what people see is not a direction they're ever, ever going to get in this oligarchy.
But person of the year for being so matter-of-fact? Don't we want feel good people as winners? I don't see how a straight shooter like Bernie is even close to "feel good people" for what he talks about and what people see is not a direction they're ever, ever going to get in this oligarchy.
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Bernie can have my sloppy seconds.
How is this still controversial!?
...as we live today with Youtube and social media....
this pick was right on point at the time, and is proven true today
Dr_LucienSanchez
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This is perfect
Sir_Crocodile
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Damn crab, never seen that ether in ukpoligaf
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that's because UKPoliGAF's post quality is actually usually p. good. Cyclops and I disagree on everything ever and I still love him because his heart and soul and dreams about that posh Tory redhead are poured into his posts.
Littlefang
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I'm actually really impressed that the poll results don't spell out something vulgar.
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