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He went on to say, "I'm just not impressed by the fact the University of Texas may have fewer [blacks]. Maybe it ought to have fewer. I don't think it stands to reason that it's a good thing for the University of Texas to admit as many blacks as possible."
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics...elong-slower-colleges-fisher-university-texas

Perhaps Trump was stealing too many headlines?
 
Motherfucker used the mismatch theory while the mismatch theory was getting outright debunked.

If we had a system in place to potentially get rid of SC members, I think a lot of people would want this guy gone.

A lot.



Instead, we are stuck having to wish for the worst. Either he retires or something, or dies.
 
What a fucking asshole? Has every asshole in the world picked this week to show just how big an asshole they can be? It sure feels like it.
 
So you essentially dislike affirmative action because you "sympathize" with under-performing African-Americans who should have the self-fulfilling prophecy to continue to underperform and thus be forced to enroll in lesser quality schools?
 
If it were just about anyone else, I would be like WTF, but it's Scalia. It's been made clear over the years that he just does not give a fuck. He's out, and he's proud about his bigoted opinions.
 
benjipwns said:
Maybe he does?
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Sad thing is I know he does believe what he is saying.

Mismatch theory has...at best, mixed results on whether it's right or not - I'm not sure I'd be comfortable going down that road without firmer results that mismatch theory was more legitimate.

FWIW, those who are interested - SCOTUSBLOG is awesome for analysis

http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/12/a...ns-on-college-affirmative-action/#more-235840

The link to the transcript itself is here
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/14-981_p8k0.pdf

I didn't realize Kagan has to recuse herself because she was involved in the case itself at some point. It basically comes down to Kennedy + someone switching sides.
 
Remember guys, who you vote for for President doesn't matter. parties are the same. SCOTUS Justices are the same. Just vote GOP if you "don't want another Clinton" It's not like it'll lead to more Scalias on the court or anything.
 
Cybit said:
Sad thing is I know he does believe what he is saying.

Mismatch theory has...at best, mixed results on whether it's right or not - I'm not sure I'd be comfortable going down that road without firmer results that mismatch theory was more legitimate.

FWIW, those who are interested - SCOTUSBLOG is awesome for analysis

http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/12/a...ns-on-college-affirmative-action/#more-235840

The link to the transcript itself is here
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/14-981_p8k0.pdf

I didn't realize Kagan has to recuse herself because she was involved in the case itself at some point. It basically comes down to Kennedy + someone switching sides.
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Ironically Scalia has a history of refusing to recuse himself for conflicts, and there's no meaningful instrument to force him too.

The Supreme Court is a disastrously arcane instrument in a lot of ways. There HAS to be a better way of implementing its role of checks and balances. As it exists now, and not just because of its current makeup, it creates an imbalanced star chamber.
 
Scalia is a good guy, he's just looking out for those poor confused negroes and their little african brains. YOU are the racist one if you think he is being racist.
 
I dont even get what he is saying. Blqcks don't excel at better schools compared to weaker ones so they should admit less to those schools?
 
benjipwns said:
you're nuts, this is nuts

it's not even close
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Politics threads on Gaf are amazingly full of this shit. These are the top three dumb shitty things I see daily:

1. I don't agree with everything Trump says but he tells it straight and we need a change.
2. The country is about to turn into the UK from V For Vendetta, perhaps tomorrow.
3. We can't do anything about X so what's the point?
 
bionic77 said:
We are past conservatism and into straight up fascism land.

I hope I am wrong but I feel like we are one terror attack or demagogue away from being the next Nazi Germany or Rwanda.
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Really? I know the US is a little 'aggy' at the moment but those two events were pretty extreme and ghastly.
 
Dabanton said:
Really? I know the US is a little 'aggy' at the moment but those two events were pretty extreme and ghastly.
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The most popular GOP candidate just recently proposed a mandatory religious registry to track individuals and restricting people of Arab decsent into the country.

Nazi Germany seems like the end goal here.

Edit: Sorry for double post. On mobile device.
 
We are morally obligated to post a link to this thread everytime some dipshit goes on about "both sides" from now until November 2016.
 
Bronx-Man said:
We are morally obligated to post a link to this thread everytime some dipshit goes on about "both sides" from now until November 2016.
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"both sides are the same" seems to have been replaced by "if bernie isn't the democrat nominee I am not voting/voting for trump" which is just as inane, if not worse.
 
benjipwns said:
you're nuts, this is nuts

it's not even close
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It doesn't start with ovens to bake the bad people. Thats where it ends up.

But Trump is a demagogue and a lot of people seem to be ok with destroying the constitution and everything else that makes us free. Do you think they will stop there if they get a chance?

I would have agreed with you a few months ago that he was a joke, but now it is getting scary. At least to me.

And I hope to Tebow that I am entirely wrong and that I am overreacting. But if there was anything that we should overreact to, in my opinion, it would be the path Trump seems to be taking us down.
 
Yeah, I can't really comment on what is going on here since it appears to be an out of context quote from a transcript of a court hearing. I'm too tired right now to look up the full transcript so I'm not going to pass quick judgement on what he said.

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I didn't read the full transcript but just a little bit before Scalia's comments and after and I'm not really seeing a problem. Scalia is just asking questions like he's supposed to do during hearings, especially ones brought up by opposing counsel in their briefs.
 
To Far Away Times said:
The most popular GOP candidate just recently proposed a mandatory religious registry to track individuals and restricting people of Arab decsent into the country.

Nazi Germany seems like the end goal here.

Edit: Sorry for double post. On mobile device.
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Trump is crazy but the US is not moving to Nazi Germany come on. The whole republican platform is basically a campaign of fear, why do you want to mimick that?
 
bionic77 said:
We are past conservatism and into straight up fascism land.

I hope I am wrong but I feel like we are one terror attack or demagogue away from being the next Nazi Germany or Rwanda.
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That same thing was being said in the 60s (fascist, Nazi comparisons), when conservatism was just getting off the ground as a movement. Back then conservatives won on 'law and order' during the race riots. We were probably concerned that another race riot would bring about a fascist state in the US.
 
bionic77 said:
We are past conservatism and into straight up fascism land.

I hope I am wrong but I feel like we are one terror attack or demagogue away from being the next Nazi Germany or Rwanda.
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Chris man, come on. If you think the U.S. Is even close you gotta visit some other countries
 
I feel like GAF needs an OT for all posts making Nazi comparisons. Kind of like the threads for things like thread parodies and drunk posts.
 
bionic77 said:
But Trump is a demagogue and a lot of people seem to be ok with destroying the constitution and everything else that makes us free. Do you think they will stop there if they get a chance?
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I don't see how Trump is exceptional in this regard.

The sitting commander-in-chief states he has the right to murder an innocent American citizen without due process. And brags that he's good at murdering people.

The president before him signed legislation while stating he hoped the court struck it down as unconstitutional.

Together they've seen a massive buildup of a national security state apparatus of historic size.

That's just three data points.

And yet. Despite that, despite the institutionalized unconstitutional warfare on the lower classes via prohibition, despite everything the NSA is doing, and all the torture and black sites and so on.

And yet, in many ways, we're freer than ever. Our capabilities continue to outpace the capabilities of the state. And that's been the story since the collapse of the Soviet Union really. Even in places like Somalia.

Real fascism, not our soft fascism, is an entirely different beast from all of that.
 
Affirmative Action is real lightning rod topic. I don't mean to offend anyone but I can see the logic on both sides of the argument. Tough topic for me to decide on.

As for Scalia, yep he's a hard-core conservative all right. I would expect nothing less coming from him.

I'm still waiting for the day that Clarence Thomas speaks up in court.
 
TS-08 said:
I feel like GAF needs an OT for all posts making Nazi comparisons. Kind of like the threads for things like thread parodies and drunk posts.
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I agree, that way people whom only contribute to horrible fascist threads the technicalities of Nazi's will have a place to go.
 
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