G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.

Ive got an Asus 27" 2k gsync and I was wondering if its normal the led is red while being in the desktop considering I have gsync set to only be active on fullscreen mode. Is there any inconvenients to have it on all the time?
 
Crimsonclaw111 said:
So, what's the best low budget GSYNC monitor? Looking to get one if/when I get a new job as a gift.
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I own the ACER 27'' TN and I paid 450E. Low budget ? I do not know, but gsync is worth it.

Otherwise you can find some 24" (nd maybe 27 if you are lucky) TN panels aound 400E (AOC, ACER, Philips)
 
isamu said:
still no word on projectors 'eh?
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Good luck.
 
Today I am gonna test Freesync. I wanted a Gsync monitor sooo bad, but I got a Ultrawide Freesync in my bd. I've been looking for this feature since it was announced.

Can't wait!
 
I really regret getting this XB240H in hindsight. Sure, the fluidity is good, but the dithering is so god damn prominent and obvious at times it's like I'm back in the 16-bit era. Not a worthwhile tradeoff.

What makes me angry is just how hard it is to properly research these things before buying. They don't mention any of this stuff in the available specifications.
 
So I'm playing Mad Max on my new ASUS ROG SWIFT and the game won't go above 60FPS.

I've turned off V-sync in game and still nothing. G-Sync is on and I'd like to try gaming at 120FPS since my card can handle it at the native res of 1440p.

Any suggestions?
 
Vitor711 said:
So I'm playing Mad Max on my new ASUS ROG SWIFT and the game won't go above 60FPS.

I've turned off V-sync in game and still nothing. G-Sync is on and I'd like to try gaming at 120FPS since my card can handle it at the native res of 1440p.

Any suggestions?
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Make sure vsync is turned off in Nvidia control panel.

Look to see if the Game options have a built in fps limiter like GTA5.

Make sure your gpu over clock is set to max performance rather than fps target.

Make sure you have set the refresh rate to 120/144hz
 
Mineshaft_Gap said:
Make sure vsync is turned off in Nvidia control panel.

Look to see if the Game options have a built in fps limiter like GTA5.

Make sure your gpu over clock is set to max performance rather than fps target.

Make sure you have set the refresh rate to 120/144hz
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Ah, V-Sync is not turned off in the panel. I assumed that I had to keep that on with G-Sync. Thanks! I'll try that later.

Will this allow me t use both G-Sync and a higher refresh rate? Or would that turn off G-Sync too?

Actually, was I meant to always have V-Sync set to off if I wanted to try that feature?
 
Vitor711 said:
Ah, V-Sync is not turned off in the panel. I assumed that I had to keep that on with G-Sync. Thanks! I'll try that later.

Will this allow me t use both G-Sync and a higher refresh rate? Or would that turn off G-Sync too?

Actually, was I meant to always have V-Sync set to off if I wanted to try that feature?
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Got the same monitor as you and had the same questions. So let me give you the basics:

·You need to have Vsync off when having Gsync on.
·The refresh rate does not have any relation with Gsync, you can have any refresh rate with Gsync ON/OFF
·You cannot have ULMB (Ultra low motion blur) active while Gsync is active
·The led light of the monitor (the one next to the power button) indicates if Gsync is active, Red is ON, white is OFF. Its is normal to have Gsync on while on the desktop, its the expected behavior.

I only have one doubt left myself and that is what is the use for the first config button on the monitor, the one that swaps hz with "turbo" mode. I put it on 59hz turbo and still running at 144hz as its the selected in the windows options. Would like to know what's that for without having to read the manual.

Edit: An extra VERY important thing to know. If you let windows turn off the monitor (in the power settings) it will disable the gsync and it wont turn back on once you wake the monitor, so disabled that from power management if you dont want a stroke thinking the thing is broken.

That said.... what a monitor, best upgrade EVER.
 
wazoo said:
I do not think this is true.

You need to have in game vsync off when gsync is on.

Still, put vsync on in NCP to remove any tearing when your framerate is higher than your monitor refresh rate.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/g-sync-gets-even-better
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Oh I didnt know about this! Thank you, I thought it was mandatory to have it off everywhere.

Anyway given our monitors refresh @144 dont think this will ever be the case and it will introduce some sort of input lag, right?

Btw, does anybody know if we still cant downscale resolutions while keeping gsync?
 
Eagerly awaiting the Benq XL2420G to come in stock at Amazon so I can buy that. Should've bought it on BF when it was £370 but I dithered too much and it sold out.
 
Shari said:
Got the same monitor as you and had the same questions. So let me give you the basics:

·You need to have Vsync off when having Gsync on.
·The refresh rate does not have any relation with Gsync, you can have any refresh rate with Gsync ON/OFF
·You cannot have ULMB (Ultra low motion blur) active while Gsync is active
·The led light of the monitor (the one next to the power button) indicates if Gsync is active, Red is ON, white is OFF. Its is normal to have Gsync on while on the desktop, its the expected behavior.

I only have one doubt left myself and that is what is the use for the first config button on the monitor, the one that swaps hz with "turbo" mode. I put it on 59hz turbo and still running at 144hz as its the selected in the windows options. Would like to know what's that for without having to read the manual.

Edit: An extra VERY important thing to know. If you let windows turn off the monitor (in the power settings) it will disable the gsync and it wont turn back on once you wake the monitor, so disabled that from power management if you dont want a stroke thinking the thing is broken.

That said.... what a monitor, best upgrade EVER.
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Holy sh*t - I wish this post was printed out and packed in with the monitor. I've had it for nearly a week and was still confused about a few things.

The right light is on but I also had V-Sync set to 'On' in the control panel and within games. Was wondering why I still had mild stutter in games. Hopefully now I can finally appreciate it. The res boost was noticeable (although not enough to justify my $450 spend) so am hoping I finally start feeling good about this monitor once I get home and fix the settings.
 
Vitor711 said:
Holy sh*t - I wish this post was printed out and packed in with the monitor. I've had it for nearly a week and was still confused about a few things.

The right light is on but I also had V-Sync set to 'On' in the control panel and within games. Was wondering why I still had mild stutter in games. Hopefully now I can finally appreciate it. The res boost was noticeable (although not enough to justify my $450 spend) so am hoping I finally start feeling good about this monitor once I get home and fix the settings.
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Yeah, the VSync/GSync issue is something which every user who buys the monitor must know.

I believe you can also force it to Off in the Nvidia control panel, so even if a game has it default to On, you won't need to worry but I'm not 100% certain. It's best to go into options each time and make sure it's set to Off.

I wish Nvidia could improve that behavior somehow to make it automatic when GSync is On, but for now you just need to remember to do it yourself.
 
Iced_Eagle said:
Yeah, the VSync/GSync issue is something which every user who buys the monitor must know.

I believe you can also force it to Off in the Nvidia control panel, so even if a game has it default to On, you won't need to worry but I'm not 100% certain. It's best to go into options each time and make sure it's set to Off.

I wish Nvidia could improve that behavior somehow to make it automatic when GSync is On, but for now you just need to remember to do it yourself.
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It's crazy just how much of a placebo effect you can get too when testing - I installed a bunch of recent games on my new SSD as well to see the difference and was positive there was one. Clearly not as GSync has actually not been working as planned in any games since I've kept V-Sync on within game settings and the control panel.
 
turning on vsync in the control panel will cap your fps to your monitor while using gsync. this is the way it always functioned but nvidia later introduced an option to turn off vsync in case you wanted to go above 144 fps.

ex:
1-29 fps (frame doubling or whatever gsync does below 30)
30-144 (gsync goodness)
145+ (high fps but stutter and tearing, only available with vsync off)
 
Vitor711 said:
Holy sh*t - I wish this post was printed out and packed in with the monitor. I've had it for nearly a week and was still confused about a few things.
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Check my post above.

Gsync on

Vsync ON in the nvidia control panel

Vsync OFF in the game settings

This is the best combination

Also, cap your framerate to 120fps with Nvidia inspector because currently there is a bug in the drivers putting high watts above 120fps
 
wazoo said:
Check my post above.

Gsync on

Vsync ON in the nvidia control panel

Vsync OFF in the game settings

This is the best combination

Also, cap your framerate to 120fps with Nvidia inspector because currently there is a bug in the drivers putting high watts above 120fps
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Ive set myself 120hz for windows and then set highest available refresh rate on nvcp.
 
lazygecko said:
I really regret getting this XB240H in hindsight. Sure, the fluidity is good, but the dithering is so god damn prominent and obvious at times it's like I'm back in the 16-bit era. Not a worthwhile tradeoff.

What makes me angry is just how hard it is to properly research these things before buying. They don't mention any of this stuff in the available specifications.
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Exactly why I took back my AOC G2460PG. The dithering was so bad my shitty old 22" BenQ looked better. And yes, it honestly looked 16-bit. I initially sent it off to repair because I figured something had to be wrong, but nope. And it only existed with G-Sync enabled. Completely soured me on G-Sync as a feature knowing that to avoid these issues it's either luck of the draw (assuming it can be avoided via panel quality) or paying the four digital premium (in Australia). Returned that shit, got a 60Hz 1440p, don't regret it at all (minus all the issues I had with this piece of shit, but that's another story). I was unable to find any information on the dithering too. Everyone here seemed to think it was great. Everyone online did too. Glowing reviews. *shrug*

AND ON THAT NOTE: If someone were to buy a 1440p G-Sync monitor, what is the absolute best picture/response going around?
 
Tell me honestly GAF to stop me wasting my money, if I run my 980Ti at only 1080p is a G-Sync monitor worth the extra money?

I see I can get the BenQ XL2720Z for a touch less than the XL2420G, but it's obviously a bigger screen.

I will only ever run at 1080p as I have no desire to chase anything higher.
 
Daffy Duck said:
Tell me honestly GAF to stop me wasting my money, if I run my 980Ti at only 1080p is a G-Sync monitor worth the extra money?

I see I can get the BenQ XL2720Z for a touch less than the XL2420G, but it's obviously a bigger screen.

I will only ever run at 1080p as I have no desire to chase anything higher.
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Well, yes. G-Sync is a solution to tearing at fluctuating frames. Of which you will get no matter your GPU or your resolution. If you use V-Sync and couldn't give a shit about the input lag, then no it's not worth it. Because that's what G-Sync solves; synchronised frames to the display at varying HZ/fps with reduced with none of the input lag of V-Sync.

980 Ti has massive overhead at 1080p, but that is still an advantage with G-Sync, given almost all G-Sync monitors cap out at 144Hz. So you'd be getting extremely high framerates drawn to perfection and displayed in full well over 60Hz, meanwhile someone with a weaker GPU might be sitting around 50 - 70 fps.

It all depends; What settings do you play games at? What kind of games? What are your current FPS? Do you play with V-Sync and if so do you care about the input lag? Do you care about pushing about 60Hz?
 
My favorite part of Gsync is ULMB honestly, that clarity is amazing for those games where you can hold perfect 120 FPS. (Dota2, CS:GO, Starcraft 2 in some regard)

After finally testing GSync, I find that playing in Borderless Window nets you close to what Gsync achieves. Sure it's just Triple Buffered Vsync, but the difference in fluidity to Gsync isnt that much.
 
EatChildren said:
Well, yes. G-Sync is a solution to tearing at fluctuating frames. Of which you will get no matter your GPU or your resolution. If you use V-Sync and couldn't give a shit about the input lag, then no it's not worth it. Because that's what G-Sync solves; synchronised frames to the display at varying HZ/fps with reduced with none of the input lag of V-Sync.

980 Ti has massive overhead at 1080p, but that is still an advantage with G-Sync, given almost all G-Sync monitors cap out at 144Hz. So you'd be getting extremely high framerates drawn to perfection and displayed in full well over 60Hz, meanwhile someone with a weaker GPU might be sitting around 50 - 70 fps.

It all depends; What settings do you play games at? What kind of games? What are your current FPS? Do you play with V-Sync and if so do you care about the input lag? Do you care about pushing about 60Hz?
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I would mostly be playing CS:GO, and maybe some late games like Fallout 4 and a mixture of indie stuff from Steam and old games like L4D2 etc that sort of thing really, everything else is done on my PS4/XB1. Settings would probably be close to ultra/full.

Not even configured or messed around with V-Sync at all on any of my current games.
 
wazoo said:
That is good. Still, for fullscreen mode (Windows 120fps is only for desktop and borderless window), I would add a cap into the Nvidia Inspector Global profile unless you want to pay higher electricity bills.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...isplays-trigger-massive-power-consumption-bug

http://www.overclock.net/t/1497172/...emperatures-and-power-draw-on-your-nvidia-gpu
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Im fine with the extra 10-20 bucks at the end of the year. I wont waste them while using the desktop but I'm fine with the GC taking all the juice while I'm gaming.

Arkanius said:
My favorite part of Gsync is ULMB honestly, that clarity is amazing for those games where you can hold perfect 120 FPS. (Dota2, CS:GO, Starcraft 2 in some regard)

After finally testing GSync, I find that playing in Borderless Window nets you close to what Gsync achieves. Sure it's just Triple Buffered Vsync, but the difference in fluidity to Gsync isnt that much.
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Tried yesterday with Just Cause 3 and I feel its pretty blurry with both modes and also very fluid with both of them too. I dont know if I have something poorly configured but I feel I has more "blur" that it should
 
Arkanius said:
My favorite part of Gsync is ULMB honestly, that clarity is amazing for those games where you can hold perfect 120 FPS. (Dota2, CS:GO, Starcraft 2 in some regard)

After finally testing GSync, I find that playing in Borderless Window nets you close to what Gsync achieves. Sure it's just Triple Buffered Vsync, but the difference in fluidity to Gsync isnt that much.
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Depends on the game. Gsync is amazing for fluctuating and stuttering games like Ubi Soft games, Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, and so on.
 
wazoo said:
Depends on the game. Gsync is amazing for fluctuating and stuttering games like Ubi Soft games, Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, and so on.
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Haha I guess. Actually now that you mention it, I've never seen a stutter again. I've been playing Borderlands 2 and Fallout 4 with Gsync and it's always smooth, even though you notice the framedrops when they occur (like Fallout 4 dropping to 30-40fps), but no stutter really, and no tearing as expected.

I have to try it with buggier games, and re-install Witcher 3.
 
Arkanius said:
My favorite part of Gsync is ULMB honestly, that clarity is amazing for those games where you can hold perfect 120 FPS. (Dota2, CS:GO, Starcraft 2 in some regard)

After finally testing GSync, I find that playing in Borderless Window nets you close to what Gsync achieves. Sure it's just Triple Buffered Vsync, but the difference in fluidity to Gsync isnt that much.
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Are you sure you can afford 120fps in dota2 ?
Framarate goes all the way down to 80ish fps with my 970/2500k in big team fight.
I play at 144hz without vsync since i don't really mind tearing in competitive game.
 
SilentRage47 said:
Are you sure you can afford 120fps in dota2 ?
Framarate goes all the way down to 80ish fps with my 970/2500k in big team fight.
I play at 144hz without vsync since i don't really mind tearing in competitive game.
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The lowest I've seen it go is 100 once.
I play at 1440p. I5-3570k at 4.2 Ghz and a 980 Ti, recently overclocked as well.
 
Interesting comments here.

I went with the Dell 27". Perfect backlight. 0 bleed anywhere.

Quick thoughts: I really like the smoothness. I'm not sure if I'd classify it as a "god level gaming upgrade". The games certainly don't feel substantially different. The smoothness is rather refreshing but I'm not sure if its something I'd especially miss if I didn't have it. It's the same old games, made smoother. lol. I'll keep it hooked up for a couple more days and then go back to my 34" 21:9 and see just how much I miss the smooth. But I'm pretty sure it's going back. Not impressed enough to part with $600 bones for it.

I don't have any particular complaints about the monitor or the technology other than that I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the dithering. It's quite jarring to my eyes when I see it. Other than that Idunno...with all the hype I guess I just thought it would impact my experience more. I can't say it's impacted my gaming experience as much as going from my 24" to a 34" 21:9.

I do think I'll keep my eye on this segment, though. 240Hz will be pretty interesting to me if it becomes common and future rigs can push out frames at that level. Considering VR is going to demand 90Hz x2, I'm guessing nextgen GPUs will indeed be able to push upwards of that in at least some modern games.
 
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