[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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The music was used very strangely compared to the OT. Some themes are brought back but used in a weird way. They play Luke's theme whenever there was something heroic on screen, like when Finn takes Poe aside to talk about escaping where it wasn't very fitting imo. It's not played when we see Luke though.

The force theme was all over the place and didn't feel very special. One strange instance on the top of my head was when the planet was blowing up at the end (why no ring on that explosion??), why play it there? The rebel theme was quoted when Han landed the Falcon on starkiller which felt out of place too (is the theme used elsewhere?).

The new themes in the other hand were rather weakly used. Kylo's theme is very unmemorable, but it worked nicely for both scenes where he was mad and when he was angry, it felt like it could go both good and bad. I liked the theme for the resistance, it gave me "The Flag Parade"-vibes. Rei also got a nice theme, though not memorable. Snoke had some music playing but it was completely drowned out for the most part. I heard a male choir but that was about it. Did Finn have a theme?

The music lacked those feelgood moments from the OT which make me want to fistpump and feel that I'm watching heroes on screen. It was mostly atmospheric, and the atmosphere was sad and dark. This felt a bit like a dark middle chapter, there wasn't much joy in it.

One of my biggest hype-points for this movie was the soundtrack, and I don't know if I liked it. It was certainly different from the other trilogies, which is probably good. I need to listen to the album a few times to make up my mind. Hope it gets uploaded on spotify soon.
 
Didn't really like the bad guy in this movie... not the main one (Ren? Ben? Can't even remember his name but Solo's son) or the big guy he answered to. I loved Darth Vader, but this felt exactly like Darth Maul to be honest. No character development.

And way too much pandering to nostalgic fans. Death star scene and the scene between Han Solo and his son. I don't know what I expected, but whatever.

Overall though, I liked the movie, can't wait to see where it leads.

I have a question though, how long after Episode VI is this movie taking place? Never really got a feel for how long it has been. 30 years?
 
Didn't really like the bad guy in this movie... not the main one (Ren? Ben? Can't even remember his name but Solo's son) or the big guy he answered to. I loved Darth Vader, but this felt exactly like Darth Maul to be honest. No character development.

Can't agree on that at all. I think we got more in this movie than we really ever got from Vader (at least in Vader's first appearance). I love that while he wanted to be as powerful and menacing as Vader, he was basically a massive fanboy -- the scene talking to his melted helmet was great, Ren was still somewhat a petulant child, throwing temper tantrums, despising his parents, probably a little because he felt abandoned, but probably because of Snoke's manipulation, we even got his little conflict with Hux -- that scene with the two of them talking to Snoke felt like Ren vying for Snoke's attention, Snoke is something of a father figure, or at the very least someone Ren really wants to impress. I loved that he got some scenes with the helmet off, too. Adam Driver is phenomenal, and this isn't Spiderman or Judge Dredd -- there's no reason he has to keep the helmet on in most of these scenes. Giving him an opportunity to really act was a great decision, he did a lot with subtle facial expressions -- especially in that brilliant bridge confrontation.
 
Can't agree on that at all. I think we got more in this movie than we really ever got from Vader (at least in Vader's first appearance). I love that while he wanted to be as powerful and menacing as Vader, he was basically a massive fanboy -- the scene talking to his melted helmet was great, Ren was still somewhat a petulant child, throwing temper tantrums, despising his parents, probably a little because he felt abandoned, but probably because of Snoke's manipulation, we even got his little conflict with Hux -- that scene with the two of them talking to Snoke felt like Ren vying for Snoke's attention, Snoke is something of a father figure, or at the very least someone Ren really wants to impress.

Agree. Kylo wasa great character. Delivered what Anakin should have been in the prequels and had way more depth than vader already
 
Can't agree on that at all. I think we got more in this movie than we really ever got from Vader (at least in Vader's first appearance). I love that while he wanted to be as powerful and menacing as Vader, he was basically a massive fanboy -- the scene talking to his melted helmet was great, Ren was still somewhat a petulant child, throwing temper tantrums, despising his parents, probably a little because he felt abandoned, but probably because of Snoke's manipulation, we even got his little conflict with Hux -- that scene with the two of them talking to Snoke felt like Ren vying for Snoke's attention, Snoke is something of a father figure, or at the very least someone Ren really wants to impress. I loved that he got some scenes with the helmet off, too. Adam Driver is phenomenal, and this isn't Spiderman or Judge Dredd -- there's no reason he has to keep the helmet on in most of these scenes. Giving him an opportunity to really act was a great decision, he did a lot with subtle facial expressions -- especially in that brilliant bridge confrontation.
If I see him as a Vader fanboy it makes me a bit happier about him, I'll take it.

Was there a reason for R2D2 waking up the moment he did?
 
Was there a reason for R2D2 waking up the moment he did?

Not a stated reason in the film but people are thinking it is because Rey was around. Probably Luke's orders: "Keep this data safe, stay put until you see Rey for the Force will lead her to around you sooner or later". Or something like that.
 
It's probably been covered, but wtf is up with Luke's lightsaber?
That thing should be in the core of some Bespin gas cloud.

Didn't really like the bad guy in this movie... not the main one (Ren? Ben? Can't even remember his name but Solo's son) or the big guy he answered to. I loved Darth Vader, but this felt exactly like Darth Maul to be honest. No character development.

You know what, I like Darth Maul's design more.
Probably the only thing from the prequels I'll say that about.
 
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Just saw the movie and loved it. I guessed that most of the surprises would happen, but they played out in a great way. Hans death especially.
 
Agree. Kylo wasa great character. Delivered what Anakin should have been in the prequels and had way more depth than vader already

My thoughts exactly. He is everything Anakin should have been. And could have been with better direction, writing and a better actor. Kind of makes you wish Disney would go "fuck it, we are remaking the prequel trilogy next."
 
Good movie but I will say the second half was not as good as the first half. Despite that this movie is a thousand times better than the sequels ever were. So Disney is on the right track.

However when they revealed the villains face it made me even more irritated about bad casting choices. He did not fit that role at all and only appeared goofy. Whats up with hiding your face half the movie, but once you take off the helmet you are visible to everyone suddenly. I enjoyed him while he had his mask on. The illusion was gone once they tried to show his "human" side with personal struggles or "demons".

Another problem with the movie was too much fan service, playing it safe repeating cliches of the older movies in the same order. It was way too predictable how things would happen, especially with Han Solo and was a poorly done scene in my opinion. Didn't feel much drama or sadness. It felt pretty rushed, along with the introduction of the force and potential with the heroine. Unfortunately Harrison Ford did the best acting in the whole movie so he will be missed. Seriously Carries Fishers acting was fucking stiff. Was really disappointing, maybe she has always been bad but I was just young at a time.

Outside the corny, recycled, predictable and safe plot points the opening was amazing. It was actually interesting to see all the events that followed before they went on full range battlemania. It was amazing to see stormtroopers being so intimidating and threatening in the dessert. It was such a joy to have action that was not entirely just green screen and shit like George Lucas had been making with the sequels. I was grinning all the way during these parts. I also love all those alien practical effects, but unfortunately they spent very little time with them. Was a very believable world and JJ Abrahams did a great job and service to the series.

It is a good movie but not really anything amazing. I hope that for the sequel they take more chances with the plot and do some new things while being fresh. I wasnt crazy about all the new leads but they did their job well. For once I look forward to a sequel but I hope it is even better!

The only thing I really hated about the movie was Death Star 3.0. I felt like it was a bit too lazy climax considering the movie already had ton of callbacks. Should have been anything else.

I am glad I am not the only one who was tired of that. Yeah I phased out during most of the action air battle since it was way too predictable and just boring.
 
storafötter;189555944 said:
Good movie but I will say the second half was not as good as the first half. Despite that this movie is a thousand times better than the sequels ever were. So Disney is on the right track.

However when they revealed the villains face it made me even more irritated about bad casting choices. He did not fit that role at all and only appeared goofy. Whats up with hiding your face half the movie, but once you take off the helmet you are visible to everyone suddenly. I enjoyed him while he had his mask on. The illusion was gone once they tried to show his "human" side with personal struggles or "demons".

Another problem with the movie was too much fan service, playing it safe repeating cliches of the older movies in the same order. It was way too predictable how things would happen, especially with Han Solo and was a poorly done scene in my opinion. Didn't feel much drama or sadness. It felt pretty rushed, along with the introduction of the force and potential with the heroine. Unfortunately Harrison Ford did the best acting in the whole movie so he will be missed. Seriously Carries Fishers acting was fucking stiff. Was really disappointing, maybe she has always been bad but I was just young at a time.

Outside the corny, recycled, predictable and safe plot points the opening was amazing. It was such a joy to see stormtroopers being so intimidating and threatning. It was such a joy to have action that was not entirely just green screen and shit like George Lucas had been making with the sequels. I love all those alien practical effects, but unfortunately spent very little time with them. Was a very believable world and JJ Abrahams did a great job and service to the series.

It is a good movie but not really anything amazing. I hope that for the sequel they take more chances with the plot and do some new things while being fresh. I wasnt crazy about all the new leads but they did their job well.

I feel much the same way.

Thought the first 45-50 minutes of the movie were perfection, but after that it's a real mixed bag.
 
Yeah a line from luke would have been nice at least, that last shot lacked something

The starkiller destroying all these planets was chilling really. Death star ain't shit, this felt terrifying
 
storafötter;189555944 said:
Good movie but I will say the second half was not as good as the first half. Despite that this movie is a thousand times better than the sequels ever were. So Disney is on the right track.
Yeah first half I was thinking 'this is perfect'. Second half was just 'good'.

However when they revealed the villains face it made me even more irritated about bad casting choices. He did not fit that role at all and only appeared goofy. Whats up with hiding your face half the movie, but once you take off the helmet you are visible to everyone suddenly. I enjoyed him while he had his mask on. The illusion was gone once they tried to show his "human" side with personal struggles or "demons".
Personally I thought Driver was fantastic. Really nice genuine but still hammy performance.

And he had Han's hair!
 
You know what, I like Darth Maul's design more.
Probably the only thing from the prequels I'll say that about.

Fuck, man. I even like Grievous's design. The only slight against it I think is that the openly beating heart is a bit much though, the hint of flesh around the eyes is implication enough.
 
Yeah a line from luke would have been nice at least, that last shot lacked something

The starkiller destroying all these planets was chilling really. Death star ain't shit, this felt terrifying
I was expecting that thing to be powerful, but man that shot of the heroes looking up to see all those destroyed planets afar was really unsettling and awesome!
 
Saw the movie and loved it. Poor Chewbacca :( That firelighter thumbs up from BB-8 makes me love him :)

I was kind of dissapointed about Phasma though. Was expecting to have a role of some importance, but all she did was disable the shields like a wuss.

Also, while I like the callbacks, I hope the next movie has more interesting planets. Not another Tatooine or Hoth.
 
Having slept on it now I can say more. Hans death was pretty apparent throughout. It was clear he was passing the falcon/torch to Reynolds early on. Also I kinds guessed it as I figured someone would die and as weird as it sounds I can easily picture Chewie without Han but I couldn't picture Han without Chewie.

I do think there was a missed opportunity to see a single shot of Chewie alone, lost, still as the celebration of their win happened around him. I k ow you see him late sitting down but his loss didn't seem as powerful as it could have been
 
storafötter;189555944 said:
Good movie but I will say the second half was not as good as the first half. Despite that this movie is a thousand times better than the sequels ever were. So Disney is on the right track.

However when they revealed the villains face it made me even more irritated about bad casting choices. He did not fit that role at all and only appeared goofy. Whats up with hiding your face half the movie, but once you take off the helmet you are visible to everyone suddenly. I enjoyed him while he had his mask on. The illusion was gone once they tried to show his "human" side with personal struggles or "demons".

Another problem with the movie was too much fan service, playing it safe repeating cliches of the older movies in the same order. It was way too predictable how things would happen, especially with Han Solo and was a poorly done scene in my opinion. Didn't feel much drama or sadness. It felt pretty rushed, along with the introduction of the force and potential with the heroine. Unfortunately Harrison Ford did the best acting in the whole movie so he will be missed. Seriously Carries Fishers acting was fucking stiff. Was really disappointing, maybe she has always been bad but I was just young at a time.

Outside the corny, recycled, predictable and safe plot points the opening was amazing. It was actually interesting to see all the events that followed before they went on full range battlemania. It was amazing to see stormtroopers being so intimidating and threatening in the dessert. It was such a joy to have action that was not entirely just green screen and shit like George Lucas had been making with the sequels. I was grinning all the way during these parts. I also love all those alien practical effects, but unfortunately they spent very little time with them. Was a very believable world and JJ Abrahams did a great job and service to the series.

It is a good movie but not really anything amazing. I hope that for the sequel they take more chances with the plot and do some new things while being fresh. I wasnt crazy about all the new leads but they did their job well. For once I look forward to a sequel but I hope it is even better!



I am glad I am not the only one who was tired of that. Yeah I phased out during most of the action air battle since it was way too predictable and just boring.

I have a real problem with a lot of you and this complaint. After TPM we all shouted this does not feel like a Star Wars movie, it lost all the charm and what made it Star Wars. We now get one that tries to give you those feeling you had with a new hope, and everyone is complaining about it?

If there was 0 ties to the past would you all be complaining that they didn't give any nods to the past?

I don't understand what you guys wanted.We all wanted to be taken back to the place in our heart that made us feel like we
 
Awh man, I just remembered the doctors "you were very brave" to Chewie, that was adorable.

I have a real problem with a lot of you and this complaint. After TPM we all shouted this does not feel like a star wars movie, it lost all the charm and what made it Star Wars. We now get one that tries to give you those feeling you had with A new Hope, and everyone is complaining about it?

If there was 0 ties to the past would you all be complaining that they didn't give any nods to the past?

I don't understand what you guys wanted.

The problem is that anyone with even passing knowledge of A New Hope could predict the entire plot of The Force Awakens based purely on the major story beats of that first film. It doesn't make the movie bad, it just didn't surprise anyone.
 

He looks so fucking baller honestly, like
Just remake the OT with old hamill

I was expecting that thing to be powerful, but man that shot of the heroes looking up to see all those destroyed planets afar was really unsettling and awesome!
Scariest shot for me was the people on the planet looking at it come and seeing the other planets explode first. Atrocious.
Feels like a nuclear holocaust scenario
 
I have a real problem with a lot of you and this complaint. After TPM we all shouted this does not feel like a star wars movie, it lost all the charm and what made it Star Wars. We now get one that tries to give you those feeling you had with A new Hope, and everyone is complaining about it?

If there was 0 ties to the past would you all be complaining that they didn't give any nods to the past?

I don't understand what you guys wanted.

You act like it's an all or nothing thing. You can have callbacks and ties without replicating literally every major plot point.
 
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