MaximumSpider
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I've waited too long for Persona 5. I need this.
Square Enix asks fans about if Persona 5/FF15 were out at same time, release hint?
- Thread starter Nirolak
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You seem pretty adamant in defending Square's honor. People were asked which game they prefer and they chose. No need to get beat up over it. Unless of course this is satire. Please tell me that's the case.
archnemesis
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After playing the demo, I'm not sure I even want to play FF15. I will pick up Persona 5 day one.
have you paid any attention to square or FF in the past decade? Pedigree over 20 years ago doesn't mean shit when the last 10 were bad.
FFXIII series was the ONLY FF RPG of the past generation; not like the PS2 era with X and XII or the PS1 Era with VII, VIII, and IX. The sting of XIII being horrid/bad is still strong and its two sequels did not do a lot in making people feel better about the series.
So, people seeing Final Fantasy as, well 'Bad' or 'Dead' have a reason to think so and aren't acting like this just to troll people.
Meanwhile Atlus made two Persona RPGs on PS2 (latter ported to PSP and PS Vita), a lot of spin-offs using the Persona Brand that are good/great (Arena 1 and 2, Persona Q, Persona 4
AN) and made other titles (SMTIV on 3DS for example). People have more faith with Atlus then Square to deliver right now, and Square should have a reason to worry.This generation we are getting two FF games; FFXV and the Collection of FFVII Remake Parts. So, by that logic, Square has two shots to make people care about FF again, and it one or both mess it up......people will see the series as crap going forward.
I feel FFXV will be a solid game that will be divisive when it launches and the FFVII Remake will be impressive but not make everyone happy, so they should be fine, but FF brand awareness is important and if FFXV suffers, then Square has a lot of work to do.
That is a sales matchup that would be incredibly interesting to see. FF's got the name recognition and it's the better technical showcase, so it'd sell better without a doubt, but I think it's telling that Square has to reach out to see if Persona has any visible impact in japan. That's a victory to Atlus and P-Studio in that they've managed to be a name alongside something as big as Final Fantasy in that space.
That said, aside from having a party and leveling up, there's practically nothing similar about FFXV and P5. One's linear with a small, intimate map and turn based cobat, the other is a sprawling open world with driving, action combat, and more non-linear elements.
That said, aside from having a party and leveling up, there's practically nothing similar about FFXV and P5. One's linear with a small, intimate map and turn based cobat, the other is a sprawling open world with driving, action combat, and more non-linear elements.
TimorousPanda
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Persona for me.
AtomskEater
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I'd be playing Persona 5 first no matter what, but I'd likely buy both if they released at the same time, especially if they had a nice collector's edition or preorder bonuses.
Your feathers getting ruffled in place of SE or something? They're the ones asking the question, can't get mad if people are answering it honestly.
I don't know why people preferring something else over FF means FF has a "bad rep", but for those who actually diss the series there are a couple of reasons they might be burned. SE themselves have kind of gone off the rails a bit since PS3 times (Japanese developers in general have had a lot of problems with the transition to HD consoles), and overall the XIII games weren't really my style. A good number of people felt that way about recent entries in the series. That said the turnaround with XIV was impressive.
Some people are also tired of being jerked around for nearly a decade.
Not sure what Vita has to do with anything, it's still kicking in Japan at least.
Your feathers getting ruffled in place of SE or something? They're the ones asking the question, can't get mad if people are answering it honestly.
I don't know why people preferring something else over FF means FF has a "bad rep", but for those who actually diss the series there are a couple of reasons they might be burned. SE themselves have kind of gone off the rails a bit since PS3 times (Japanese developers in general have had a lot of problems with the transition to HD consoles), and overall the XIII games weren't really my style. A good number of people felt that way about recent entries in the series. That said the turnaround with XIV was impressive.
Some people are also tired of being jerked around for nearly a decade.
Not sure what Vita has to do with anything, it's still kicking in Japan at least.
DamonForever
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I prefer avantgarde open-world action-RPG gameplay to linear, turn-based corridor moé bullshit at any time of the day.
Shame on all of you tbh
Gold.
That's because the idea itself is in fact hilarious. It's highly possible when the dust settles that Persona 5 is the better game. I'm not going to argue that point, but Persona's lunch will be stolen easily if they release in the same time frame.
a.) Atlus can't out spend Square-Enix on marketing, which Square-Enix goes heavy for on mainline entries. I've never seen a Persona commercial on television, whereas there will be for XV. In addition, considering the stature of the series, there will be significantly more online discussion about FFXV (articles on whether it's bad or good).
b.) Despite the long drawn out, and ridiculous development cycle for XV; it still has 10 years of hype behind it by the time release day hits.
c.) People interested in both, are buying both. The idea that FFXV will lose sales to Persona WW is hilarious.
d.) Final Fantasy (while fallen) is still a juggernaut compared to Persona. We're talking a significant number of millions difference here.
It's easy to fall into that "hardcore" hype mentality like we do so easily here on Neogaf and other sites around the web. Call of Duty is that perfect example; we love to hate on it here, but at the end of the day it still crushes with the mainstream. Despite FF being a "fallen" juggernaut to some, Final Fantasy is still a juggernaut, and Persona isn't...yet.
Ganzlinger
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Persona 5.
And eventually FFXV
And eventually FFXV
Ambition
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Going by this thread alone I wouldn't take anything he says serious.
psynergylover
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I'd be getting both
Shin Megami Tensei IV released here less than a month after the JP release.
Atlus JP is pretty aware of the presence the franchise has in the west now. I really doubt there's no communication between both branches like you seem to imply.
There's no way this will take 6 months to localize.
super-famicom
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I'm buying Persona 5.
NoctisVsStar
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This question only matters for Japan.
To the poster that said ew about persona 5 on PS3, the persona series does not need eye candy or extra ram to be goat. Persona could remain on last gen forever and remain successful few series can say that. P4G made people buy vitas that alone should tell you.
FFXV day-0
To the poster that said ew about persona 5 on PS3, the persona series does not need eye candy or extra ram to be goat. Persona could remain on last gen forever and remain successful few series can say that. P4G made people buy vitas that alone should tell you.
FFXV day-0
Shame on all of you tbh
Bow to our new Queen
Nobody in the world realistically expects Persona 5 to outsell FFXV. Especially WW, it won't even be close. P5 will be lucky to sell 15% of FFXV sells.
This however, is a poll aimed at the Japanese audience, where the ratio is a little bit closer. Not close enough that P5 has a shot in hell in outselling FFXV, but close enough that a simultaneous release could impact both series' bottom lines. P4 has been pretty damn huge in Japan, and generated a ton of positive buzz for P5.
This however, is a poll aimed at the Japanese audience, where the ratio is a little bit closer. Not close enough that P5 has a shot in hell in outselling FFXV, but close enough that a simultaneous release could impact both series' bottom lines. P4 has been pretty damn huge in Japan, and generated a ton of positive buzz for P5.
KingItachi
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Persona 5, I'll get FFXV when it's in the bargain bin.
I just CTRL+F'd every page with 'Persona' and almost spat out my drink - has GAF become weeaboo heaven?!
Persona 4 Golden is a legit 5/10, dungeon design is astrocious and the whole edgy anime character shtick is embarrassing. Okay, the UI is hard - but the rest? Y'all get blinded by your affection for 2D anime characters that are as flat as their character portraits. And now you want another one of those basura Social RPGs (can't believe I'm even typing this)?
Pass. Try again. Or better yet: don't.
FFXV originates from the brilliant mind of jeux-auteur Tetsuya Nomura and will not only sell boatloads of PS4s in Japan but start the age of cinematic RPGs paired with both hyperrealismé and masterful game design. Yes, the last demo was lowkey rough around the edges but that's because it's a game that demands everything from the consoles. I prefer avantgarde open-world action-RPG gameplay to linear, turn-based corridor moé bullshit at any time of the day.
Shame on all of you tbh
I love you, b.
Makoto Yuki
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I'm aware of that.
Or they are curious as to how much the JRPG market in Japan is interested in P5?
I'm pretty sure Atlus wouldn't be happy if SE decided to release FFXV the same time as P5. Come on, if you really think that SE is scared of releasing the same day as P5 you're crazy. SE is trying to get the most sales they can, same goes for Atlus, neither would really benefit if both games were released at the same time since both are incredibly anticipated JRPGs.
I think you're being too sarcastic.
dap
Spyder_Monkey
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I mean Persona 5 is going to come out in the Summer while FFXV is most definitely coming out in the Winter so why not both?
WickedLaharl
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Whompa02
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FFXV...but I'll own both eventually. I just feel significantly less embarrassed in owning FFXV over Persona...
Basically all of this...
Basically all of this...
GhostTrick
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Suzushiiro
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Keep in mind that XV is very likely to have a simultaneous worldwide release while P5 is not. Them both being Summer '16 in Japan means that in the US we'll get XV in summer and P5 in Q4.
This bad news for Star Ocean 5.
While I would choose SO5, a fall release for P5 and SO5 could potentially damage any future Star Ocean prospects.
To answer the bolded, that's how it seems. Either that or people are just really mad at Square Enix. A lot of people in here are saying they've only released crap in the last 10 years, which is just not true. SE haters need to go play XIV. It's great. Bravely Default was awesome too, and it's turn based ya crybabies.I just CTRL+F'd every page with 'Persona' and almost spat out my drink - has GAF become weeaboo heaven?!
Persona 4 Golden is a legit 5/10, dungeon design is astrocious and the whole edgy anime character shtick is embarrassing. Okay, the UI is hard - but the rest? Y'all get blinded by your affection for 2D anime characters that are as flat as their character portraits. And now you want another one of those basura Social RPGs (can't believe I'm even typing this)?
Pass. Try again. Or better yet: don't.
FFXV originates from the brilliant mind of jeux-auteur Tetsuya Nomura and will not only sell boatloads of PS4s in Japan but start the age of cinematic RPGs paired with both hyperrealismé and masterful game design. Yes, the last demo was lowkey rough around the edges but that's because it's a game that demands everything from the consoles. I prefer avantgarde open-world action-RPG gameplay to linear, turn-based corridor moé bullshit at any time of the day.
Shame on all of you tbh
P5 looks cool. Hopefully it doesn't take 6 hours for the actual game to start like P4 though.
Persona is the good kind of anime though. Unlike Xeno and Star Ocean.
NoctisVsStar
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It's probably releasing around the same time in Japan, the west will have to wait for persona5. FFXV is more likely to get WW release.
You're looking at the comparison in context of your own surroundings, while the questionnaire on the site is...Japanese, aimed at Japanese players. In Japan, Atlus can definitely market a lot and put Persona commercials on television. In recent years, Atlus expanded their audience through many Persona games and side material, whereas FF has been dry. Atlus also benefits in the Japan market by being cross-platform.
I don't think 'hype' makes for a good argument about performance, because its effect is hard to measure. I agree about the sales, but as Nirolak noted earlier in this thread, Square likely not considering 'beating' Persona but rather maximizing the amount of sales FF15 can get. And again, the focus is Japan. The potential for lost sales because of close release dates is real in Japan, so if SE wants to fluff up the numbers to maximize positive media coverage, they're going to have to avoid Persona.
It's not hardcore mentality so much as light joking mixed with some serious idiots, I suppose.
Matrix XII
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I just CTRL+F'd every page with 'Persona' and almost spat out my drink - has GAF become weeaboo heaven?!
Persona 4 Golden is a legit 5/10, dungeon design is astrocious and the whole edgy anime character shtick is embarrassing. Okay, the UI is hard - but the rest? Y'all get blinded by your affection for 2D anime characters that are as flat as their character portraits. And now you want another one of those basura Social RPGs (can't believe I'm even typing this)?
Pass. Try again. Or better yet: don't.
FFXV originates from the brilliant mind of jeux-auteur Tetsuya Nomura and will not only sell boatloads of PS4s in Japan but start the age of cinematic RPGs paired with both hyperrealismé and masterful game design. Yes, the last demo was lowkey rough around the edges but that's because it's a game that demands everything from the consoles. I prefer avantgarde open-world action-RPG gameplay to linear, turn-based corridor moé bullshit at any time of the day.
Shame on all of you tbh
lol thank you for that. Reading the replies to this is just great.
dap
I didn't know, 'durr anime is for weaboos' was an actual legitimate complaint about Persona 5 and picking up FF15 instead considering they are both most assuredly Japanese and to some degree Japanese media based.
Could it simply be that people prefer the consistency of the franchise and what it brings to the table, as well as what they've seen upgraded in P5?
No, its gotta be ignorance, all the time.
Could it simply be that people prefer the consistency of the franchise and what it brings to the table, as well as what they've seen upgraded in P5?
No, its gotta be ignorance, all the time.
family_guy
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I would buy both.
zerokoolpsx
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Persona 5. I've been waiting ever since Atlus announced it.
NoctisVsStar
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Old curmudgeons like me have been put off since FFXI.
It and XIV were MMOs, and the single-player games play nothing like the old ones.