[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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munchie64 said:
For Rey, I absolutely understand where people are coming from with the power-up thing. Personally though it just seems no different to an action movie where the hero is pinned down by guns and then suddenly pops out and shoots everyone else.
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though in this case...given her reaction to touching the Saber...I think it's fair to assume that it will be revealed that she received some training at Luke's school and recalled some lessons when she really needed them.
 
StifflersMum said:
He is not a Sith. Because he was not trained by one. There are no Sith anymore.
They are something new.

They emulate the Sith, though...
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Didn't Stokes call him a "knight of Ren"?

Ren is his title, no longer "Darth" since he isn't a Sith.

They are a different cult worshipping religious sect of the Darkness, not Sith Lords of the Dark Side.

Similar but different interpretations of the Dark Force is how I took it
 
takriel said:
I hope he has a good reason to justify his isolation for so many years. It doesn't really seem to fall in line with his character, tbh.
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He lost it after losing lil Ben to the dark side. I want to know more about what happened there and why Luke just didn't kill Snoke.
 
Sanctuary said:
And then when you factor in lightsabers being able to cut through every known material other than another ligthsaber and vibroblades made specifically to block them, it kind of throws out any reasons to not use them if you're going to use a melee weapon?
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We'll this is some shit you have to wonder about the whole series, not just this film. Sorry it's bothering you so much. Most people don't care 30 years later. They use the weapons they use. George lucus didn't want everybody using a light saber.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Why would anyone but a Jedi/Sith want to use a lightsaber in a universe that has evolved to blasters of all sizes and thermal detonators? It's like asking why soldiers today don't fight with rapiers instead of machine guns. Like, is the answer not obvious?

Stop ignoring the responses.

Jedi/Sith prefer them because of the way the force enhances the effectiveness of the weapon allowing them to deflect/reflect blaster fire, conceal them, and deal incredible damage with precision. Deflecting blaster fire isn't something the average person can do. And unless you're a jedi/sith, you don't take a knife (or sword or lightsaber) to a gunfight. That's true even in galaxies near, near to us and clearly true in galaxies far, far away.
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Well, soldiers do take bladed weapons to combat. They are effective when needed, have uses as tools and can denote rank as well. Blades didn't disapear with guns they just got a different use. Having a sword that can cut through a door, maim with ease and easily concealed is a good reason to have one.

We even saw a Stormyrooper use some type of laser/saber rsistant baton in the film. Why would you have a weapon that can combat lightsabers unless weapons of their type were somewhat common.
 
LookAtMeGo said:
I could see Finn being sensitive to the force. Raised to be bad. Turns out good. I wonder who his parents are?
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Seeing as there were no black women in the OT's galaxy far far away, and that one black rebel pilot died in RotJ, his dad's obviously Lando.

that, or entirely yet unknown characters.

Also, i wouldn't mind just having 1 Jedi. I don't want to have 2-against-1 lightsaber duels because then you lose most of the internalization of the fighters' conflicts.

I think it's good to always have one person doing the Jedi shit, one person doing the manual labor :P

I don't think Iron Man + Captain America teaming up would be any fun if Captain America had an Iron Man suit of his own.
 
Did anyone else think the Snoke scenes were really weak? Snoke seems so uninteresting and out of place in a Star Wars film. Maybe it was the scale of his hologram or the bad cg. I feel like the hologram Darth Sidious scenes early in TPM were stronger than the 3 Snoke scenes in TFA.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Because sci fi fantasy space opera.
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ftfy.

watershed said:
Did anyone else think the Snoke scenes were really weak? Snoke seems so uninteresting and out of place in a Star Wars film. Maybe it was the scale of his hologram or the bad cg. I feel like the hologram Darth Sidious scenes early in TPM were stronger than the 3 Snoke scenes in TFA.
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the CG was rather meh,
but the scale was cool because it made Snoke more menacing, his conversation partners having to look up to him.

i found the spider-legged walk-and-talk super dumb.
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Sanctuary said:
And then when you factor in lightsabers being able to cut through every known material other than another ligthsaber and vibroblades made specifically to block them, it kind of throws out any reasons to not use them if you're going to use a melee weapon?

Anyway, I know it was supposed to represent being a cool samurai, and it was also supposed to represent a jedi's skill level, since they were actually supposed to build their own. But when anyone can swing them around, it really diminishes their unique flair.
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Your forgetting the other limiting factor in that they are extremely rare. They require extremely hard to find crystals only found on a few planets which at this point may be lost to most governments. Certainly if there were enough lightsaber crystals to go around they would probably be used for all melee purposes but there aren't.
 
StifflersMum said:
He is not a Sith. Because he was not trained by one. There are no Sith anymore.
They are something new.

They emulate the Sith, though...
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Ya there was a line in TFA about the Sith, the Empire, being different group of baddies that uses the dark side. Sith is not THE dark side, but one of the many out there at different times.

So I guess in the new triology, we have TFO.
 
One quick thought... we should have seen steam rising past Han's face after being stabbed. Realistically we'd also hear his insides and flesh bubbling, but whatever!
 
Sanctuary said:
And then when you factor in lightsabers being able to cut through every known material other than another ligthsaber and vibroblades made specifically to block them, it kind of throws out any reasons to not use them if you're going to use a melee weapon?
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Well, you can't make them, period, unless you are a force user. There's only a handful of these in the known galaxy. Furthermore, the number of existing lightsabers is extremely low, maybe in the tens of thousands in a galaxy of trillions, and lightsabers can be lost forever (buried underground, left to drift in space).

Basically, if some magic wormhole randomly scattered a bunch of super advanced alien blasters around Earth, the US army is not going to suddenly start mass-issuing alien blasters to its infantry, no matter how powerful they are compared to conventional firearms.
 
TedMilk said:
One quick thought... we should have seen steam rising past Han's face after being stabbed. Realistically we'd also hear his insides and flesh bubbling, but whatever!
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He probably landed in a pool of carbonite and survived anyway.

I wasn't a huge fan of Snokes appearence either.. it did feel out of place.
 
John Harker said:
Though my big question was, who was the old man in the beginning with Poe who was killed? I kept thinking it was Wedge due to his familiarity with everyone and him hanging out with the next Ace Pilot of the rebellion, but really couldn't tell
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Veteran actor Max von Sydow played the character called Lor San Tekka. Just a random cameo i think.
 
Fliesen said:
the CG was rather meh,
but the scale was cool because it made Snoke more menacing, his conversation partners having to look up to him.

i found the spider-legged walk-and-talk super dumb.
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Lol, I agree. That's why I said early in TPM. The scenes in particular when Sidious is talking to the 2 nemoidians for the first time and when he introduces Darth Maul. The use of the emperor's theme and Darth Maul's quiet, menacing, choral music is also more effective than the Snoke music (the low droning men's choir) even though that music is good, it was dialed down so quiet you could barely hear it. And I was in imax with supposedly the best sound system available.
 
Why did Luke make a map of where he is to begin with?

He wanted to go away and disappear so why make a map.

And if he didnt make the map.

Then who did?
 
Lol at Finn being so shaken by the order killing innocent people that he slaughters dozens of his mates while escaping without blinking.

I thought the Snoke CG was good and didn't look out of place at all outside of his character design being odd in the context of the movie franchise.
 
Noisepurge said:
Veteran actor Max von Sydow played the character called Lor San Tekka. Just a random cameo i think.
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Hmm seemed so random then.

In 30 years are we going to get a "Rouge One" prequel movie about how Lor San Tekka, Poe, and a motley crew went on a quest to the desert planet Jakku to find the hidden Map To Skywalker, before the First Order is alerted and they kill Our hero Lor San Tekka in bloody combat prior to the start of Episode 7? Help me General Leia, you're my only hope.

I can see it. Disney gonna Disney.
 
valkyre said:
Why did Luke make a map of where he is to begin with?

He wanted to go away and disappear so why make a map.

And if he didnt make the map.

Then who did?
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So one day his daughter can find him (which is why it was on Jakku with her). She is powerful in the Force after all.
 
John Harker said:
Hmm seemed so random then.

In 30 years are we going to get a "Rouge One" prequel movie about how Lor San Tekka, Poe, and a motley crew went on a quest to the desert planet Jakku to find the hidden Map To Skywalker, before the First Order is alerted and they kill Our hero Lor San Tekka in bloody combat prior to the start of Episode 7? Help me General Leia, you're my only hope.

I can see it. Disney gonna Disney.
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He's 86, might not be around for the rest of the trilogy :[
They had lots of random cameos though, Daniel Craig for example.
 
eot said:
He's 86, might not be around for the rest of the trilogy :[
They had lots of random cameos though, Daniel Craig for example.
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I feel like I'm pretty observant but DanIel Craig was in this? Didn't catch that. As who?
 
LookAtMeGo said:
Dozens of his mates who slaughter innocents by the hundreds.
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It just felt weird to me, given he's a storm trooper with obvious feelings and throughout the movie there are multiple gags with storm troopers running off together because they're afraid of Ren. Obviously there are friendships there.

Suppose it's not something to think about with the movie deciding to make the Order the new Reich though, subtlety isn't a factor :P
 
can someone please explain who the main emperor guy was? Am I meant to know who he was?

I got fed up with the signposted death and the new hope retread. I am more excited for what comes next rather than excited for what I just watched.
 
As Rey was walking up I chuckled to myself that upon her arriving at the top of the mountain she would find Luke furiously jacking off.
 
Vice said:
We even saw a Stormyrooper use some type of laser/saber rsistant baton in the film. Why would you have a weapon that can combat lightsabers unless weapons of their type were somewhat common.
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To be fair, it was stated at the start that Snoke's and Ren's number one priority was killing Luke. It'd make sense to train troopers in lightsaber-resistant melee weapons since normal blasters are useless against trained jedi.
 
watershed said:
Did anyone else think the Snoke scenes were really weak? Snoke seems so uninteresting and out of place in a Star Wars film. Maybe it was the scale of his hologram or the bad cg. I feel like the hologram Darth Sidious scenes early in TPM were stronger than the 3 Snoke scenes in TFA.
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To me, this was the only real weak point of the movie.
 
Fliesen said:
this.

He doesn't want to kill unarmed civilians. (i.e. 'innocents')
His 'mates' have committed exactly those disgusting murders that made him a deserter to begin with.
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Just seems doubtful he's only one to feel apprehensive about this actions, and given how quickly he gets to joking around with the crew they obviously aren't completely socially defunct killing machines.
 
v0yce said:
you're right. I don't think I could sit through something so ridiculous.
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That doesn't seem ridiculous at all to me. If anything, it's the most logical and consistent theory that addresses some various things that happen with Rey throughout the movie, as far as I'm aware.

Ushojax said:
Phasma will be in the next movie, she is alive.
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Has there been confirmation of her personal participation? IMDB lists Episode VIII for Oscar Isaac, for example, but not for Gwendoline Christie.

Illucio said:
Oh yeah one more thing I have to ask everyone else so I'm not crazy or anything.

During a scene when Rey took the Millennium Falcon for the first time and is piloting through Jakku there is a quick scene where we see another female scavenger dragging a sled accompanied by what seems to be Finn.

Did I just see things or is there time travel involved in the series? I will have to look for the scene again on the DVD/Blue Ray of the film because this is going to drive me insane.
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I only saw the scavenger, but I had no idea what was happening. I just thought it was a random person on the ground. Did anyone else notice it? They seemed to specifically have a scavenger on the ground dragging someone, reacting to the Millenium Falcon flying past.
 
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