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Yeah, I thought he was intentionally made to be out of focus and kind of blurry due to being an enlarged projection in a dimly lit room.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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Yeah, I thought he was intentionally made to be out of focus and kind of blurry due to being an enlarged projection in a dimly lit room.
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I'm sure there was some studio notes somewhere along the way -- it seems kind of ridiculous that Disney would never once comment on such an important movie for them, especially given how hurried the production was -- but JJ and Kasdan did talk a lot about the importance of keeping the movie trim and fast, and consciously avoiding the bloat of most blockbusters nowadays.
Yeah, he's a super cheery little slave child prodigy who's the best pilot ever and a genius robot builder at the age of six despite living in poverty, but that's because he was born virginally out of holy spirit.
Leia hugs her because she's her niece.
Rogue One is set before Episode IV, so that seems pretty unlikely.
The movie to me felt way too similar to the first JJ Abrams Star Trek. It was a reboot in the same canon.
I felt like the film was a remake of a New Hope, with a ridiculous number of parallels from Death Star to watching an older character die at the hands of the villain as the hero watches. At some point I was wondering if the timing was identical to the first film's beats.
JJ's action shots also felt weird for a Star Wars film, i.e. zoom ins during action scenes, awkward angles, etc.
The thing I'm most torn about is when Adam Driver began to speak without his mask. On one hand, I could only hear Adam from Girls and thought it was really off-putting. On the other hand, if he's trying to be Darth Vader, then his whiny tone makes for the perfect parallel to Anakin.
Overall I liked it but felt the same way towards it as I did Jurassic World. Yay that we're getting more of something I like, but a shame it has to be so identical to the original. As a huge Star Wars fan, I'm more excited for the sequels and spinoffs. But it seems that the theme is that Star Wars films are all about daddy issues.
I felt like the film was a remake of a New Hope, with a ridiculous number of parallels from Death Star to watching an older character die at the hands of the villain as the hero watches. At some point I was wondering if the timing was identical to the first film's beats.
JJ's action shots also felt weird for a Star Wars film, i.e. zoom ins during action scenes, awkward angles, etc.
The thing I'm most torn about is when Adam Driver began to speak without his mask. On one hand, I could only hear Adam from Girls and thought it was really off-putting. On the other hand, if he's trying to be Darth Vader, then his whiny tone makes for the perfect parallel to Anakin.
Overall I liked it but felt the same way towards it as I did Jurassic World. Yay that we're getting more of something I like, but a shame it has to be so identical to the original. As a huge Star Wars fan, I'm more excited for the sequels and spinoffs. But it seems that the theme is that Star Wars films are all about daddy issues.
I liked this a lot too. In the past when a lightsaber connected with anything it was pretty much guaranteed to destroy it
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Did you watch the trailers? Those implied she was going to be important (slow motion walk towards the camera). For what she ended up doing in this movie, they literally could have given her no time in those trailers. I do hope she actually gets something in future episodes bit goodness was she ever wasted as part of this movie.
Barrel Cannon
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I didn't think about that. That makes sense and adds a bit more the mystery.
BTW I loved Luke's face at the end when he turned from the burial with sadness in his face. Also Rey's face when she saw the huge body of water at the end was so impactful. I loved the acting in the film.
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My interpretation was that there was some unspoken force shit going on between them.
Rogue One is set between III and IV.
Malick[AI]
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I loved it. I will say my main complaint is that Finn is waaaaay too socially adjusted for someone who was kidnapped and raised as a soldier in a xenophobic regime.
Fly to the outer rim with some aliens with no second thought? Sure thing!
Fly to the outer rim with some aliens with no second thought? Sure thing!
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Im kinda hoping from here on The First Order is much smaller Rebellion sized faction
The force, dude. Leia knows what happened to Han and how Rey feels about it without words. And vice versa.
That scene made perfect sense to me.
Ahh I didn't realize.
Future PhaZe
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lukes fuckery requires an explanation to be sure
she knew who han solo was so I'm guessing she knew who leia was. she just saw him killed and may have understood that she might have an idea about it. rey seems like a compassionate person and maybe just responded to her own feelings and thought, hey maybe this person needs a hug.
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Snoke is an AI confirmed?
robertsan21
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Yeah and I will imagine that we will get some awesome darth vader action in that one.
Banderdash
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Rey struck me as a total Mary/Gary Sue character.
Oh she's good with tech, & she understands droids, & she can out fight a stormtrooper who's trained from childhood, & she's an amazing pilot... despite never having flown before.
Oh, & now she's a force sensitive who can influence minds... & she could totally school a sith lord who wiped out the first bunch of Jedi recruits, despite never having picked up a lightsaber.
Oh she's good with tech, & she understands droids, & she can out fight a stormtrooper who's trained from childhood, & she's an amazing pilot... despite never having flown before.
Oh, & now she's a force sensitive who can influence minds... & she could totally school a sith lord who wiped out the first bunch of Jedi recruits, despite never having picked up a lightsaber.
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PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Leia knew Han was dead because of the Force. Rey saw him die. Force connection.
Arkos
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Yoousa help me father?
DeviantBoi
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I was sure she was going to hug Chewie because of the whole Han thing.
Literally the same hyperspace animations. I was like BOOOOOOO GET THIS OUT OF HERE!
I'm a big fan of Adam Driver, but I felt like the script might have been to blame here because he was flat/deadpan in the delivery of his lines. Even in his initial force-exchange with Rey, he's almost dead-in-the-eyes. It made the delivery of his bridge speech all the more moving because there was something really happening there.
And I wish he had the mask off when he was raging. Because Adam Driver can deliver a menace like no one else.
I think R2 has been given the task of mapping the solar system but had to exclude the part where Luke was. A reason is never give but I have no doubt that it'll be explained when Luke figured out how to talk again.
definitely a mix but interesting to know that. I've avoided most everything from this so that even included interviews. Good to know. I guess I'll have to go back and track down some of the marketing stuff.
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Thought it was interesting that when Kylo first heard mention of "a girl" aiding BB8, he went apeshit and destroyed everything...like it touched a nerve with him.
Not to mention I found it interesting he was already trying to recruit Rey during their fight...almost like he knew her? Maybe they were at the Jedi academy together, she was Luke's real prized pupil, and that's what sent Kylo off...?
Not to mention I found it interesting he was already trying to recruit Rey during their fight...almost like he knew her? Maybe they were at the Jedi academy together, she was Luke's real prized pupil, and that's what sent Kylo off...?
robertsan21
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I would like to add that she now knows that Luke is her father so for obvious reasons she hugs her fathers sister
Future PhaZe
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he's developing--he'll probably be a gawd after his training--he's clearly got immense potential
I love how you are stating this speculation as fact. Lol.
Kylo isn't a Sith Lord. He isn't even Sith. They're gone! He's a shitty kid who doesn't understand how to actually use the Dark side and is constantly lashing out--likely because he was taught that's how the Dark side works.
I think an important distinction to remember going forward is that the Sith are likely gone from the universe for now. A Dark side user is not a Sith.
As for Rey being so good with tech, I mean. She grew up around junkers and likely fucked around in the Falcon a lot as a kid. Understanding Droid isn't really all that unusual since it's just another language in that universe. The amazing pilot stuff was likely foreshadowing her force sensitivity because one thing we've known about being force sensitive is that it enables faster than normal reactions and gives you hella reflexes. All things that a good pilot needs, basically.
Salty Catfish
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That's a good theory, especially since her force vision of Kylo turning on Luke implied the possibility that she was physically there when it happened.
So much for that
WrenchNinja
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Whoa what are you guys saying, Rey is Luke's kid? Did I miss a line?
It was really good. Really felt like a labor of love, with the clear influence of Disney's helicopter parenting. It's a tight, generous, shiny movie. Yet - weirdly enough - Han Solo actually killed my suspension of disbelief for a damn long while. I get it, though - it was necessary. But the character is just too much. He's both a war hero in-universe and Harrison-Ford-the-star. He felt half-nostalgia machine, half-walking plot device. I swear it felt like watching an SLN skit, or a fan video at times. I actually felt relieved when Han died. "Phew, the trilogy is set in motion now and the new characters can breathe". But my frustration mainly comes from the fact that the new characters can easily stand on their own. They really struck gold here. Rey, Finn and Poe are awesome.
In the end, it felt like a two-hour long introduction to something special. I really can't wait for what's coming next.
In the end, it felt like a two-hour long introduction to something special. I really can't wait for what's coming next.
good point. though I'm still torn on the father/daughter thing. i like that though. plot points to be discovered as the trilogy develops instead of that spoon fed gerber's spinach shit some what on here.
What an exciting ride. I really can't find any faults at the moment (more info regarding the Republic and First Order will hopefully be fleshed out in the next installment). The story and pacing were just so tight and concise. No bloat. No lingering scenes with little meaning. Just a focused narrative with likeable characters. Maybe I'll feel differently a week from now, but as of right now, this film was fantastic.
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Yeah there was another part I think, maybe Han and Leia, and somebody asks, "Who's the girl?" or something and they CUT before the person answers. I feel like other people may know something about Rey.
(Also I could be mistaken and be referring to the same scene as you, but I noticed the same thing you did either way)
robertsan21
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Well it would be such a weird thing for her not to be his daughter haha the movie clearly showed it. With that last scene with Luke laying eyes on his long lost daughter, she has powers and this weird connection to lukes lightsaber. so Im just assuming it is like that. hahaha. could be wrong thought but doubt it.
I finally saw it tonight. Despite being a theatre full of Japanese people, there was a lot of cheering when the Lucasfilm logo appeared, at the beginning of the opening crawl, and at the end of the film. I've seen tons of films in Japan, but this is the first time I see the crowd go wild.
That being said, I thought the film was excellent, in most parts. There were some lines that were cheesy ("grand father"), there were characters that needed more screen time (3PO), and the new music wasn't really anything to remember. The whole "I'm using the force so here's a close up of my face" scenes were rather awkward as well.
I teared up whenever I heard music from the old trilogy or whenever an old character showed up (Han Solo and Chewie, Leia, the scene where Han says that everything is true, Luke, and the last scene with Han). I feel I've gotten soft before, but this movie is a tear jerker for me as a fan of the previous movies.
As a Star Wars film, it is excellent and definitely exceeds the prequel trilogy in terms of story and entertainment. I'm still not sure where to rank it against the original trilogy films, however. I think it wasn't as good as Episode V or IV, but it is definitely a worthy fighter against Episode VI.
I'm seeing it again tomorrow evening, in IMAX 3D. Maybe my views will change as a result, but at least for initial viewing, I was pleasantly surprised.
I'm looking forward to the Blu-Ray release, so my wife and I can do a Star Wars marathon at home. Last time we watched the series in one day was the day I finally realized that Episode I was absolutely the worst and Attack of the Clones, despite its flaws, wasn't as bad as I thought before.
That being said, I thought the film was excellent, in most parts. There were some lines that were cheesy ("grand father"), there were characters that needed more screen time (3PO), and the new music wasn't really anything to remember. The whole "I'm using the force so here's a close up of my face" scenes were rather awkward as well.
I teared up whenever I heard music from the old trilogy or whenever an old character showed up (Han Solo and Chewie, Leia, the scene where Han says that everything is true, Luke, and the last scene with Han). I feel I've gotten soft before, but this movie is a tear jerker for me as a fan of the previous movies.
As a Star Wars film, it is excellent and definitely exceeds the prequel trilogy in terms of story and entertainment. I'm still not sure where to rank it against the original trilogy films, however. I think it wasn't as good as Episode V or IV, but it is definitely a worthy fighter against Episode VI.
I'm seeing it again tomorrow evening, in IMAX 3D. Maybe my views will change as a result, but at least for initial viewing, I was pleasantly surprised.
I'm looking forward to the Blu-Ray release, so my wife and I can do a Star Wars marathon at home. Last time we watched the series in one day was the day I finally realized that Episode I was absolutely the worst and Attack of the Clones, despite its flaws, wasn't as bad as I thought before.
Didn't realise they did this, that's awesome.
Also crazy about Yoda and Obi wan, definitely didn't catch that myself.
After letting it sink in a little since last night, here's were I'd rank the movies based on my personal preference.
1- Return of the Jedi
2- Empire Strikes Back
3- The Force Awakens
4- A New Hope
5- Revenge of the Sith
6- Phantom Menace
7- Attack of the Clones
Speculation based on the fact that Anakin/Luke's lightsaber reacted to her, her innate Force abilities, and the lack of knowledge of her parents.
1- Return of the Jedi
2- Empire Strikes Back
3- The Force Awakens
4- A New Hope
5- Revenge of the Sith
6- Phantom Menace
7- Attack of the Clones
Speculation based on the fact that Anakin/Luke's lightsaber reacted to her, her innate Force abilities, and the lack of knowledge of her parents.
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